Discovering Protools HD is Unnecessary VS LE/M-Powered

[DTheone]

I'm a little late to all this but.............

I just finished researching and looking at Vienna Ensemble Pro, AudioPort and Bidule on youtube and other websites. M-powered/LE is a great deal. Another I7 rig at under 1000.00 and an abundance of quality audio interfaces to chose from (when considering using other DAW's) simply eliminates my curiosity or thinking that I need ProTools HD for larger scale projects. The products below not only will get me the most use out of protools but also Propellerheads Record, Reason, Reaper etc...
For home recording studio's this is a god send........No more 18 I/O limit, 4gb limitation. The ability for VI'S to utilize all of your ram etc...No longer crippled by Pro Tools 4GB RAM limitation. If you go with multiple computers, you can go bananas streaming audio over network with audioport and bidule as discussed in this thread (thanks john toolbox....32 channels per each slave pc. http://duc.digidesign.com/showthread.php?t=262869

Vienna Ensemble Pro
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/VSLEnsemblePro
http://vsl.co.at/en/211/497/1685/1693/1741/1368.htm

AudioPort
http://www.audioimpressions.com/prod...ort-universal/
Bidule
http://www.plogue.com/?page_id=56

I have a lot of love for Protools; i'm keeping M-powered but I'm adding the above needed juice (Vienna Ensemble or Audioport Bidule combo; it's great to have such economical choices to chose from) along with one other possibly two other comparable I7/I9 rigs.

[John_Toolbox]

audioport/bidule is the way to go. Don't stop there though, grab a copy of jbridge, this will let you use 64 bit plugins with audioport. Been using this setup for several months now and it is excellent.

[DTheone]

Sounds good; I'm no longer as bitter about protools limitations now that i'm finding out about other solutions. Now I can put money toward the above and have enough left over for more toys...

[DTheone]

Originally Posted by John_Toolbox

audioport/bidule is the way to go. Don't stop there though, grab a copy of jbridge, this will let you use 64 bit plugins with audioport. Been using this setup for several months now and it is excellent.

Quick question; are you running on mac or pc?

[John_Toolbox]

Originally Posted by DTheone

Quick question; are you running on mac or pc?

Both. I use PC's as slaves(audioport requires the slaves to be PC), but macs as sequencer(Logic) and DAW(Pro Tools).

Not sure if there is a mac equivalent of jbridge other than VE pro.

[Shan]

Originally Posted by DTheone

If you go with multiple computers, you can go bananas streaming audio over network with audioport and bidule as discussed in this thread (thanks john toolbox....32 channels per each slave pc. http://duc.digidesign.com/showthread.php?t=262869

Vienna Ensemble Pro
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/VSLEnsemblePro
http://vsl.co.at/en/211/497/1685/1693/1741/1368.htm

AudioPort
http://www.audioimpressions.com/prod...ort-universal/
Bidule
http://www.plogue.com/?page_id=56

You can add ReaStream to the list. 32 channels over Ethernet...and it's free.

Shane

[John_Toolbox]

Originally Posted by Shan

You can add ReaStream to the list. 32 channels over Ethernet...and it's free.

Shane

Nice. If they make a mac version this will be huge.

[Shan]

Originally Posted by John_Toolbox

Nice. If they make a mac version this will be huge.

The real solution is a complete RTAS overhaul in PT. We shouldn't have to need/use these work arounds at all in this day and age, especially on a 20 plus grand HD system.

Shane

[DTheone]

I'm baffled with all the goings on at Avidesign that continue to get worse by the day, hour, minute. Purposely restricting software and charging users for bug fixes and masquerading them as updates/upgrades continues to be SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) at Avidesign.

PT ain't even that good anymore; really it's not! The preaching choir sounds ridiculous at this point.

[Violet]

But we work Pro Tools like an experienced thatcher. We have the tools, we know how to use them, and are very efficient at it. Pro Tools is so much more user friendly than Cubase or Reaper IMHO. Its just 'good'. But this RAM restricting BS has gone on for too long.

...and if they are restricting software that gives us what we want, that is a dark day indeed.