Pro Tools 9.0.1 - Windows 7 - Mbox2 Mini

[SpardaUK]

Hello,
New to this forum, ever since I've had Pro Tools 9, it's been a pain.
- Install took AGES (not too bothered about that)
- I click to launch Pro Tools, it takes up to 10 minutes to boot
--- That's the only problem so far, as I haven't had time to play with it.

Now the second issue...
When I use my Mbox2 Mini to record with Adobe Audition 3.0, after getting to the 6th track with FX, it starts to get laggy, even with latency set at 4092 WTF?
(Only reason for using Adobe Audition 3.0 is because Pro Tools takes so long to boot)
The same issue on a different program, when I produce on FL Studio 9... This I consider to be REALLY bad... I add two instances of IK Philharmonik, 1 playing a 2 bar string stacatto loop, the other playing a 2 bar string loop... I get clicking and latency issues, right up to 4092 on the latency, AGAIN!
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I never had ANY problems when I was recording and producing with a Behringer Xenyx 1204FX and UCA200 (which is not even a dedicated audio interface)... Either the Mbox2 Mini SUCKS, or there is something not right going on with my system...

Any help would be good...

Here is my Sandra report...

 < Computer >
    Model:                         System manufacturer System Product Name
    Workgroup:                     WORKGROUP
    Host Name:                     DeanFenton-PC
    User:                          Dean Fenton

  < Processor >
    Model:                         AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 B50 Processor
    Speed:                         3.1GHz
    Cores per Processor:           4 Unit(s)
    Threads per Core:              1 Unit(s)
    Type:                          Quad-Core
    Integrated Data Cache:         4x 64kB, Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way, 
                                   Exclusive, 64 byte line size
    L2 On-board Cache:             4x 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-
                                   way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size
    L3 On-board Cache:             6MB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 48-way, 64 
                                   byte line size, 4 threads sharing

  < Computer >
    Mainboard:                     Asus M4A785TD-M EVO
    BIOS:                          AMI 2006 04/15/2010
    Bus(es):                       ISA X-Bus PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/
                                   SMBus
    Multi-Processor (MP) Support:  No
    Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (:Yes
    Total Memory:                  3.25GB DIMM DDR3

  < Chipset >
    Model:                         ASUS RS780 Host Bridge Alternate
    Front Side Bus Speed:          2x 2GHz (4GHz)
    Channels:                      1
    Memory Bus Speed:              2x 100MHz (200MHz)

  < Chipset >
    Model:                         AMD F10h Athlon 64/Opteron/Sempron HT Hub
    Front Side Bus Speed:          2x 2GHz (4GHz)
    Total Memory:                  4GB DIMM DDR3
    Channels:                      1
    Memory Bus Speed:              2x 667MHz (1.33GHz)

  < Memory Module(s) >
    Memory Module:                 Micron 16JTF25664AZ-1G4F1 2GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-
                                   10700U DDR3-1334 (10-10-10-27 5-37-11-6)
    Memory Module:                 Corsair VS2GB1333D3 2GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-10700U 
                                   DDR3-1334 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)

  < Video System >
    Video Adapter:                 ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (800 SM5.0 850MHz, 
                                   1GB DDR5 4.8GHz 128-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)
    Video Adapter:                 ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (800 SM5.0 850MHz, 
                                   1GB DDR5 4.8GHz 128-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)

  < Graphics Processor >
    OpenCL Processor:              ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (800SP 10C 850MHz, 
                                   512MB DDR5 4.8GHz 128-bit)
    Compute Shader Processor:      ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (800SP 850MHz, 1GB 
                                   DDR5 4.8GHz 128-bit)
    STREAM Processor:              ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (800SP 10C 850MHz, 
                                   1GB DDR5 4.8GHz 128-bit)

  < Storage Devices >
    WDC WD2500AAJS-55M0A0 (250GB, :233GB (C:) (D:) (E:)
    WD 5000AAC External 500.1GB (U:466GB (G:) (H:)
    ATAPI   DVD A  DH20A1P (ATA66,:1GB (F:)
    Disk:                          N/A (I:)

  < Logical Storage Devices >
    Windows (C:):                  70GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD2500AAJS-55M0A0 (250GB, 
                                   SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 8MB Cache)
    Studio (G:):                   232GB (NTFS) @ WD 5000AAC External 500.1GB 
                                   (USB)
    Downloads (H:):                232GB (NTFS) @ WD 5000AAC External 500.1GB 
                                   (USB)
    Programs (D:):                 80GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD2500AAJS-55M0A0 (250GB, 
                                   SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 8MB Cache)
    Games (E:):                    80GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD2500AAJS-55M0A0 (250GB, 
                                   SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 8MB Cache)
    Miroslav Philhar (F:):         1GB (CDFS) @ ATAPI   DVD A  DH20A1P (ATA66, 
                                   DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)
    Optical Drive (I:):            N/A @ Disk

  < Peripherals >
    LPC Hub Controller 1:          ASUS IXP SB600 SMBUS Controller
    LPC Hub Controller 2:          ASUS SB700 LPC host controller
    LPC Legacy Controller 1:       ITE IT8712F
    Audio Device:                  ASUS IXP SB600 High Definition Audio 
                                   Controller
    Audio Codec:                   VIA VT1708S HD Audio
    Audio Device:                  ASUS EG JUNIPER XT Audio Device [Radeon HD 
                                   5700 Series]
    Audio Codec:                   ATI (AMD) HDMI Audio
    Serial Port(s):                1
    Parallel Port(s):              1
    Disk Controller:               ASUS SB700 SATA Controller [IDE mode]
    Disk Controller:               ASUS SB700 IDE
    USB Controller 1:              ASUS SB700 USB OHCI0 Controller
    USB Controller 2:              ASUS SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller
    USB Controller 3:              ASUS SB700 USB EHCI Controller
    USB Controller 4:              ASUS SB700 USB OHCI0 Controller
    USB Controller 5:              ASUS SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller
    USB Controller 6:              ASUS SB700 USB EHCI Controller
    USB Controller 7:              ASUS SB700 USB OHCI2 Controller
    FireWire/1394 Controller 1:    ASUS IEEE 1394 Host Controller
    SMBus/i2c Controller 1:        ATI SB600 SMBus

  < Printers and Faxes >
    Printer:                       Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, 
                                   Colour)
    Printer:                       HP Deskjet 3050 J610 series (300x300, USB, 
                                   Colour)
    Fax:                           Microsoft Shared Fax Driver (200x200)

  < Network Services >
    Network Adapter:               Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit 
                                   Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20) (Ethernet, 100Mbps)

  < Power Management >
    Mains (AC) Line Status:        On-Line

  < Operating System >
    Windows System:                Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.01.7600
    Platform Compliance:           x86

  < Windows Experience Index >
    Current System:                5.9

Thanks in advance!

[marcreeves]

Well I can tell you that the mbox 2 mini DOES suck (know from experience), and also pro tools 9 is a buggy piece of crap (again, experience.)

Very disappointed as I thought Avid had finally got things sorted with PT9, alas - I bought into their marketing hype once again

[SpardaUK]

Ah I see, so I've gone and sold my old equipment hoping this would be much better, because y'know, Avid are meant to be "industry standard" - What a joke, I can't even produce a full track and BTW I rap, so there's not even that much going on? LOL... I hope they at least fix Pro Tools, seriously, how can they be classed as the industry standard when it takes up to 10 minutes to boot into an empty session!
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Thanks for the respose, I think I will just go and buy a Focusrite Saffire 6 USB and see if that helps me! **When I can afford one, after spending so much on the useless rubbish**

[TCM]

Your two RAM sticks are different with different timings!
Possible source of trouble!

Check the driver version of your Mbox.
or
try ASIO4ALL, some people had success with it.

Concerning the load time:
PT takes some time booting for the first time, when it scans for the plugz, but after that, any other time it should boot much quicker, unless you delete Prefs and Databases..

[SpardaUK]

I thought it could've been my RAM but as I've had no problem with Audio recording/editting before I had the Mbox 2 Mini, I can't see how the RAM would affect it? or it that me being stupid?

ASIO4ALL: I have the same issues as I do with the DigiDesign driver.
Load Time: It's everytime I load PT9, although the first boot was significantly longer than the boot time now... I've heard that putting PT on the system drive speeds up boot times? Is this correct?

In my bios, my RAM timings are now set to Auto, would this not put both sticks of RAM at the lowest settings of the two, and make them equal?

Thanks for the response, I appreciate it :)

[TCM]

Originally Posted by SpardaUK

I thought it could've been my RAM but as I've had no problem with Audio recording/editting before I had the Mbox 2 Mini, I can't see how the RAM would affect it? or it that me being stupid?

ASIO4ALL: I have the same issues as I do with the DigiDesign driver.
Load Time: It's everytime I load PT9, although the first boot was significantly longer than the boot time now... I've heard that putting PT on the system drive speeds up boot times? Is this correct?

In my bios, my RAM timings are now set to Auto, would this not put both sticks of RAM at the lowest settings of the two, and make them equal?

Thanks for the response, I appreciate it :)

There are timings discrepancies between your RAM sticks Micron - Corsair .
I your BIOS you can only set the timings in general!

PT has to be on the system drive for optimum performance!

Moreover did you do the optimizations mentioned here:
http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=133039

[dRead]

I´m having very odd problems with Win7 64bit, Mbox2 mini and standalone-ASIO mode....

I cant use it in Ableton!!! I can select the ASIO-Driver, but no sound-ouput!! it also slows down my pc!
if i go to device-setup, i came to "digidesign asio control panel" or something, where i can change my sample-buffer rate!!

i tried to find the executable to this little control panel, and maybe it works when i try to start it always with administrator-rights, but i cant locate it!!

any solutions on this, or is it impossible to get the mbox2 mini to work on win7 64bit with the current asio-drivers from digidesign???

HELP, i want to play at a gig today and cant get this damn thing to work.....

BTW, i can use it in MME/DirectX mode....latency is higher, but it plays...do you think i can make a liveset in that mode, or do i have to be scared that ableton/mbox2mini/pc crashes?!?!

[TCM]

dRead, I recommend opening a fresh thread for your problems and posting a Sandra report.

Moreover there is a variety of possible causes, even installing one application after another one could overwrite some system files that the previous application used, etc...

Try run as admin, and check the version of the device driver.

[SpardaUK]

i've tried everything now, even all of the optimizations, still nothing.
PT9, uninstalled...
Selling my mbox2 mini with PT8, seeing as i don't know how to transfer my iLok2 to another person.
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Thanks for trying to help though, I appreciate it.