Have I been off by 164 samples all along?

[scottevl]

I'd like to consider myself an experienced enough user of Pro Tools and a bunch of other DAW's for that matter. I surf the user boards and grasp most topics without a problem.
I've always understood the concept of latency and where it can be introduced into your signal flow, and how to reduce it to it's most unobtrusive levels.
My question is that aside from monitoring directly I have done nothing else to ever correct it. Should I have been nudging every piece of audio I have recorded into a session all along?

thanks, Scott

[RinnyTin]

I'm not sure I understand your question, you mean, for example, if you do a vocal overdub, nudge it back 164 samples because the singer was hearing themselves in the headphones with a delay of 164 samples?

[MidnightFlyer]

If you record all your tracks to a pre-existing drum track, loop or a click, they will all be 52 samples off, which you probably won't notice. You can nudge them back.

[DesertDude]

164 only if you use an Mbox - or if you make abient music you would be right on...

[RinnyTin]

Why 52?

[tele_player]

You should double-check that. That was a bug in 5.x on Mbox, might have been fixed in 6.x. Was definitely fixed in 5.3.3 (and up) on Windows.

164 only if you use an Mbox - or if you make abient music you would be right on...

[mobilemac'nstrat]

Look here:
http://answerbase.digidesign.com/detail.cfm?DID=7868

[Chris Coleman]

Look here:
http://answerbase.digidesign.com/detail.cfm?DID=7868

I've always thought that "Mbox latency on a Mac" Answerbase document was hilarious. That's like a FAQ on a car manufacturer's website saying:

"Congratulations on your new car. Now, you may have noticed that it takes gas to run the car...and you may have also noticed that the gas tank we manufactured for your car has a gaping hole in the bottom which you, the consumer, must fix. You'll definitely want to patch this hole or else you won't get the best mileage out of your car.

Oh, by the way, we fixed this problem in the version we sell overseas, but for some inexplicable reason, the domestic cars still have this gas-tank-hole 'feature'. Remember to fix it."

[MidnightFlyer]

Sorry, I thought it was 52 samples. 164 samples is fairly noticable.

[mobilemac'nstrat]

Although I don't find it THAT much of a problem to remember to shift each track 164 samples earlier after recording, It is scandalous that we are STILL obliged to use this work around in lieu of Digi (HELLO!!?) sorting it out for many thousands of loyal mbox/mac users.