Why PT10 is not 64 bit... let's get this over with ;)

[Dism]

Originally Posted by rockridge

Why would you think all AAX plugs will be 64 bit?
Samplers for sure, but why bother with EQ's or compressors.

What makes you think that 32 bit and 64 bit can't co-exist in the same 64 bit app?

Where's the proof that if RTAS stays, 64 bit AAX can't be used?
It's not because Avid said so is it?

There's nothing to say that if RTAS stays, AAX can't be used. The point is that there is no reason to. A bridge will have to be created. Of course 32 bit AAX plugs can exist at the same time as 64 bit plugs... because it is designed to. RTAS is from OS9. Let's move on to the future, folks.

Since TDM definitely cannot stick around in a 64 bit Pro Tools, there's no reason for RTAS to as well if they can just make one plugin format that embraces both native and DSP hosts.

AAX plugs will effectively replace RTAS and TDM. Most devs are working on it, and many have already released AAX versions at no extra charge or as part of their latest upgrades. There's no conspiracy here, it's a way to move on from the plagues that came with mixing RTAS with TDM.

[rockridge]

Originally Posted by Dism

There's nothing to say that if RTAS stays, AAX can't be used. The point is that there is no reason to.

It will cost many users... that's one reason.

Originally Posted by Dism

A bridge will have to be created

So... it will also create goodwill... won't it.

Originally Posted by Dism

RTAS is from OS9. Let's move on to the future, folks.

I can understand Avid playing hardball, but what do you think you'll gain from being a condescending Avid apologist?
You don't work for Avid... stop acting like you do!

[Craig F]

Originally Posted by rockridge

It will cost many users... that's one reason.



So... it will also create goodwill... won't it.



I can understand Avid playing hardball, but what do you think you'll gain from being a condescending Avid apologist?
You don't work for Avid... stop acting like you do!

a) only one company is charging so far that I know of

b) it would add cost, bugs and, decrease performance

[Dism]

Originally Posted by rockridge

It will cost many users... that's one reason.

Wrong.

Companies are writing AAX versions just as they have for every other version. Does a company charge you for making a VST version or AU version of an already existing plugin? They don't, they add it to what already exists or to the latest version of their plugin.

People already pay to upgrade their plugins on a regular basis, just as they do their DAW. This isn't some new way to extract cash from the customer.

Originally Posted by rockridge

So... it will also create goodwill... won't it.

At the cost of progress. As Ford would have put it... Do you give your customer a faster horse or a whole new means of transportation?

Originally Posted by rockridge

I can understand Avid playing hardball, but what do you think you'll gain from being a condescending Avid apologist?
You don't work for Avid... stop acting like you do!

Please... Just stop. You're already proving your lack of knowledge on the subject, antagonizing me doesn't make it any better.

[robinsonsdca]

Is this Forum being manipulated by it's creators? Would be nice to see this thread without any manipulation

[Dism]

Originally Posted by robinsonsdca

Is this Forum being manipulated by it's creators? Would be nice to see this thread without any manipulation

What manipulation are you talking about?

[filosofem]

Originally Posted by robinsonsdca

Is this Forum being manipulated by it's creators?

Is this forum being manipulated by trolling?

[Violet]

How much are you getting paid Dism....common fess up.

$10,000 a week? $20,000 a week? Avid has to do something will all that extra cash floating around...why not pay someone to tell us that we should love to pay the $300 or $1000. Convince us we don't need the money.

[Dism]

Originally Posted by Violet

How much are you getting paid Dism....common fess up.

$10,000 a week? $20,000 a week? Avid has to do something will all that extra cash floating around...why not pay someone to tell us that we should love to pay the $300 or $1000. Convince us we don't need the money.

What extra cash?

http://www.google.ca/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:AVID

Avid's at it's lowest point ever. They are suffering hardcore. They made some poor business moves and I am the first to say that. If you actually read what I say on these forums, you know that I was the among the first to point out the injustice of their current pricing schemes. They just laid off 200 employees, and as far as I can tell, it's just to stay afloat.

I am here simply to clear up the misconceptions and misinformation that a few silly people are spreading around. Pro Tools 10 is a good piece of software, and there are reasons why it is the way it is. I can't tell you why the pricing scheme makes no sense, and I can't tell you why it's taken them so long to finally make a decision as to going about making Pro Tools 64 bit. All I can do is deliver the facts as to what is important about this release.

I can't help it if some people are obsessed with a misguided conspiracy that somehow Avid is using the money they don't have to pay off people to tell you everything is alright.

I've never said anything of the sort. I'm simply defending the truth about what is good about Pro Tools 10.

Stop watching Alex Jones movies and move on. If you can't handle it, download Reaper and let us be happy with our overpriced software.

[spenner]

Originally Posted by rockridge

I'm all for Protools moving to 64 bit.
Needed for VI, samplers. but the claim the we need to wipe 32 bit RTAS out because it's holding back 64 bit, I'll never believe.

Sylvester the Cat said it best, "Suffering SuckeRTAS." Let it go, and let's move on to AAX.