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It's that time again, and I have no intention of building one myself. I've had decent results from a Creation Station (way back when), and more recently an ADK. But it's been awhile. Any recent recommendations for builders for a powerful, mostly-for-post, Pro Tools friendly PC?
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Custom i9-12900K, 64GB RAM, W10 Pro, PT Ultimate 2023.6, HD Native, OMNI, Digi 192, UAD-2 Octo; Mac Pro 12-core 3.46, 64GB RAM, Mojave, Logic Pro 10.5.1, Apogee Rosetta 800, UAD-2 Quad, MOTU 2408 Mk II: MBP mid-2012, 16GB RAM, Mojave, MOTU 8-Pre-ES, Pro Tools 2021.7 |
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Dell (Precision Workstation line)
There is nothing special about audio post computers but there is something special about large companies with large buying power and intense support structures for business. Especially when top-line parts are hard to come by like currently (but not for large buyers like Dell.)
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Interesting perspective, thanks. I always assumed DAW builders were picking components known to work well in high demand A/V environments, but since you're the second person today to recommend Dell, now I'm not so sure.
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Custom i9-12900K, 64GB RAM, W10 Pro, PT Ultimate 2023.6, HD Native, OMNI, Digi 192, UAD-2 Octo; Mac Pro 12-core 3.46, 64GB RAM, Mojave, Logic Pro 10.5.1, Apogee Rosetta 800, UAD-2 Quad, MOTU 2408 Mk II: MBP mid-2012, 16GB RAM, Mojave, MOTU 8-Pre-ES, Pro Tools 2021.7 |
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Here’s another choice: https://www.pro-tools-pc.com/
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You're paying for testing and guarantee/return priviledges, if it doesn't work.
When I see that UA recommend Razer for a UAD laptop with TB, and then see people complaining about the high DPC latency of Razer machines, I'm reminded of why I choose Apple - even with a premium brand like Razer, things can go wrong. (You could very reasonably argue the same with Apple, but for slightly different reasons). Anyway, I like the idea, if you want a PC, of tasking a specialist DAW builder to make you one that works for your particular setup. Tell them you use PT and AVB or Dante or TB or an external RAID array or wired Ethernet to another machine running VEPro and let them make you something which they know will work. And that you can send it back if it doesn't. I used to build PCs for a living and have no interest in doing so now. A Dell might be a good starting point (although I very much doubt the PSU or other fans would be anything like quiet enough for me) but it might not. If you can afford it, tell someone what you want and let them use their expertise to make and test it. I realise I haven't answered your question - but a UK answer won't help you much anyway. Dominic |
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There are no "specialized skills" in any of these "DAW builders"
Just people who know how to assemble components (that they are then middlemen on increasing the price of said components.) You can return a computer to Dell (or HP or any of the big makers.) And the workstation class computers are meant to be always on. 3AM and the power supply burns out? You can have a power supply at your place by 7AM for free ready to go. (This has happened with a system that choked on unexpected construction dust.) 24/7 support lines, FedEx contracts, supply depots around the country that keep stock of all parts. 5 years down the line there will still be parts availability. You want silent, HP, for instance, offers watercooled options in their workstation class computers. (Not a big concern for myself as we have machine rooms but have done it before for in-room systems) And laptops aren't desktop/workstations. There's a lot traded in for thermals and battery time.
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True! GPU's and DDR5 is hard (or impossible) to buy right now.
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Desktop: PT 2020.5 / Win 11 Pro / i9-11900K @ 5.1GHz / 64GB / 4TB NVMe PCIe 4 / Gigabyte Z590 Vision D / PreSonus 2626 Laptop: PT 2020.5 / Win 11 Home / i5-12500H / 16GB / 1TB NVMe / Lenovo IdeaPad 5i Pro / U-PHORIA UMC1820 Legacy (still works!): PT 5 & 6 / OS9 & OSX / Mac G4 / DIGI 001 Click for audio/video demo Click for resume |
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What is your current computer? ADK - which one? Which exact CPU? What are you trying to achieve with a new PC as compared to you current PC?
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Desktop: PT 2020.5 / Win 11 Pro / i9-11900K @ 5.1GHz / 64GB / 4TB NVMe PCIe 4 / Gigabyte Z590 Vision D / PreSonus 2626 Laptop: PT 2020.5 / Win 11 Home / i5-12500H / 16GB / 1TB NVMe / Lenovo IdeaPad 5i Pro / U-PHORIA UMC1820 Legacy (still works!): PT 5 & 6 / OS9 & OSX / Mac G4 / DIGI 001 Click for audio/video demo Click for resume |
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My current model is in my signature and has generally performed well. But it's eight years old, Intel is five or six generations further along now, and this system has already gone through one major gutting with a new MB and PS after the originals died. There are a few quirks this one has always had, and now that the CPU fan is dying, I'm taking that ugly sound as a sign it's time to put this one out to pasture. Moving forward!
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have yo looked at Titan,we brought 2 of their machines and they are monsters extremely well speced out and they run like a dream,granted they are not cheap https://www.titancomputers.com/
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