2022.4 solo safe aux tracks?

[lesbrunn]

Originally Posted by baslotto

I cannot think of any reasons why this default would be a problem to anyone. Who needs the Auxes to not be solo safe? Can anyone give me a possible scenario? Pro or not pro. The previous routine for decades was to open an aux track and go to solo safe it. Now it’s one less step.

Agreed, but there are situations for a producer/beatmaker when it's not desirable. It's needed in purely mixing situations, but I think there should always be options. Again, there are workarounds, but we should have the option to disable globally.

[Dizzi45Z]

Originally Posted by BScout

If 70% of users were solo-safe their auxs each time and 30% weren't, then making the default solo-safe is the right decision. (And frankly, pro users usually put aux in solo safe so signal can continue passing when they are soloing upstream audio tracks)

But I'm not against making this an option in preferences with the default being solo safe.

+1

[abc1mce2]

Originally Posted by BScout

You can disable solo safe manually. Just not globally.

If 70% of users were solo-safe their auxs each time and 30% weren't, then making the default solo-safe is the right decision. (And frankly, pro users usually put aux in solo safe so signal can continue passing when they are soloing upstream audio tracks)

But I'm not against making this an option in preferences with the default being solo safe.

+2, though I believe there should be a global preference to switch this behavior.

[Third Eye Studios]

Originally Posted by abc1mce2

+2, though I believe there should be a global preference to switch this behavior.

I agree. I don't solo safe aux returns. Don't need to. When we first got our D-Command, I used an additional pair of DA for PFL/AFL. Now Pro Tools Ultimate with D-Command can use the same DA, and route PFL/AFL in the software. No need for solo safe for me for years.

[ejsongs]

Again, to globally make Auxes a solo safe is silly.

If you use busses for routing drums, BV vocals, guitars, keys, strings or use buses to route to summing amps now you can’t solo that bus to do tweaks or individual tracks within those busses without headaches.

In addition to giving us the preference to disable that feature globally, why not give us the option when creating aux tracks to create them as solo safe or not? Could be a box that check or something.

Or do what other daws do and give us the option to create fx send tracks in addition to aux tracks.

There are just many better ways they could have done this without making a global arbitrary choice…. They simply interviewed too narrow of a group of people when they did this.

Not very happy

[DontLetMeDrown]

Lol all my years of using PT we'd joke about it, like who tf doesn't want these solo safe? Do the opposite of what the rest of us have been doing for 20+ years and manually unsafe it.

But of course I support a global checkbox option

[ejsongs]

Originally Posted by DontLetMeDrown

Lol all my years of using PT we'd joke about it, like who tf doesn't want these solo safe? Do the opposite of what the rest of us have been doing for 20+ years and manually unsafe it.

But of course I support a global checkbox option

lol...I might have you by a few years...at least on this forum:). global check box at least:).

[RobertDorn]

stupid update, should have been made a preference instead of a new default state.

[Dizzi45Z]

Originally Posted by ejsongs

Again, to globally make Auxes a solo safe is silly.

When something changes in a DAW like this requiring you to change your workflow from what you are comfortable doing, it can be upsetting. I also, 100% agree that the default should be an option we can change in preferences.

But, I have to respectfully disagree with you on this being a bad move. We all have different experiences and workflows that give us a perception of how it should be. I’m not going to say one persons experience/workflow is better than another, but in my experience, and apparently others who have posted in this thread, solo-safe as a default is an improvement.

I personally love it being Solo safe by default because I want to hear the EFX from the EFX Auxes when I solo a track. When I have multiple tracks routed to a bus (such as a drum bus, guitar bus, etc), I want to be able to solo the individual tracks going to that Aux without the Aux muting it in the signal path.

There are a few times that I don’t want Auxes solo safed, but the large majority of time, I need them to be solo-safed. I also have seen hundreds of other sessions set up by other people and from my perceptions, people generally tend to want their Auxes solo safed the large majority of the time.

Originally Posted by ejsongs

In addition to giving us the preference to disable that feature globally, why not give us the option when creating aux tracks to create them as solo safe or not? Could be a box that check or something.

Or do what other daws do and give us the option to create fx send tracks in addition to aux tracks.

For now (until they hopefully make it an option in preferences) there are several ways around it.

1. Command click on the solo of the Aux tracks to revert them back to not being solo safed. If you need to change a bunch of them, then select them all, shift-command-alt-click on one of the solo buttons and it will change all of them at the same time. This is what all the rest of us who would prefer them to be solo-safed have been doing for decades.

2 Consider Folder routing tracks for situations where you are bussing several tracks to one Aux. These tracks are brilliant for dealing with soloing individual tracks within the folder or soloing the folder as a whole. You don’t have to worry about solo safe/not solo safe so much in these scenarios.

3. Create a track preset that is an Aux track that is not solo safed. This would work just like you suggested above with having another track option.

Again, I’m not saying the way your working is wrong, but I think it’s unfair to assume that this change was a silly move for everyone. For me, personally, this was a change I have been wanting since day one of using Pro Tools.

[Farhoof]

I would like to see the same solo logic routing folders have be applied to auxes (which are pretty much the same). Press solo on whatever you need to hear and you hear the entire path solo. There would be no need of these cumbersome solo safe settings (or at least far less).

Maybe some day. It's only been a request since forever.