Jog/Shuttle Wheel.... I don't get it.

[Marsdy]

Apologies for what is clearly ignorance on my part but i'm just not getting the functionality of the wheel in Jog and Shuttle mode. (I didn't on my C|24 either.)

When either Jog or Shuttle is engaged, the Scrubber tool automatically gets selected and every other Pro Tools function is "locked out". All the menus are greyed out etc.

So... Let's say I use the wheel in Jog mode to locate to where I want to separate a clip or add a fade I can't do it. I have to turn Jog off to do the edit, then turn it back on to locate to the next edit point etc. It seems really clunky to me. I don't get it!!!!

This is why I was suggesting it would be great if there was an preference for the Wheel to default to moving the Playhead if no other wheel function is engaged. It would be nice if this behaved like Trim mode, i.e. if you're in Grid mode it jumps by bars. If you're in Slip mode, it moves with sample accuracy depending on zoom level?

I've tried using Trim mode as a workaround to move the Playhead but as soon as you make a selection, the wheel moves the selection. Also, I've found there's a bit of flaky behaviour here. Once you've located an edit point in Trim mode, you often have to press say the Fade In or Separate softkey twice for it to work. But it's a far from ideal workaround anyway.

Or am I missing something obvious here? Entirely possible!

[Brandonx1]

Fairlight MFX+ had a really good implementation of a job shuttle wheel

[Rob_H]

Hi Dave

I may be working differently to you, but I pretty much leave the wheel in Move Selection mode - which just shuttles the playhead through the timeline - then use scrub if I want to find an edit point.

[Marsdy]

Originally Posted by Rob_H

Hi Dave

I may be working differently to you, but I pretty much leave the wheel in Move Selection mode - which just shuttles the playhead through the timeline - then use scrub if I want to find an edit point.

Rob I'm pretty doing the same thing. Using The Trim/Move Selection to move the Playhead and it works great for my purposes.... until I make a selection and it moves that which is what it says on the tin I suppose but I just find annoying!

What I DON'T like about Scrub is that you can do anything when you're actually in Scrub mode, i.e. Jog or Shuttle. You have to find your edit point, exit Scrub, do the edit, then go back into Scrub to find the next edit, exit scrub, do the next edit and so on..... and so on. Unless I'm missing something obvious.

[Stereo Missile]

Marsdy, have you tried using the Mark In and Mark Out buttons with the jog wheel? They are in the locator buttons section of the main module. This allows you to make a selection easily and works with grid mode settings as well. Also one of my fave uses for the jog wheel is the scroll horizontal feature. Using a combination of these 2 functions, I can be zoomed in to a good level of detail on the waveform, easily scroll back and forward with the wheel and then us Mark In and Mark Out to make a selection. Hope this helps.

[priorytools]

What about the insertion follows scrub option in prefs?
That's what I use.

[Marsdy]

Originally Posted by priorytools

What about the insertion follows scrub option in prefs?
That's what I use.

Thanks but I already had that on. The issue for me is that whenever Scrub is engaged, which it is of course when you're in Jog or Shuttle mode, you're locked out of actually doing anything!!! Seems clunky to me.

[Marsdy]

Originally Posted by Stereo Missile

Marsdy, have you tried using the Mark In and Mark Out buttons with the jog wheel? They are in the locator buttons section of the main module. This allows you to make a selection easily and works with grid mode settings as well. Also one of my fave uses for the jog wheel is the scroll horizontal feature. Using a combination of these 2 functions, I can be zoomed in to a good level of detail on the waveform, easily scroll back and forward with the wheel and then us Mark In and Mark Out to make a selection. Hope this helps.

Sorry I missed this post Steve. Yeah I do the Mark In/Out functions that but if you just want to move the playhead to an edit point where you want to Separate or Fade In/Out it doesn't help. None of the Jogwheel modes do until except Trim but then that doesn't do the job once you've made a selection. As it is, I find I'm constantly switching in and out of Jog/Shuttle mode with the wheel. Jog on, find edit point, Jog off, do the edit, jog on again, next edit, jog off, locate next edit and so on and so on. Thanks anyway.