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Old 05-08-2014, 02:13 AM
Tianzhu Tianzhu is offline
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Default Eleven rack + vst impulses loader - reaper

Hi Folks,

I'm new member on AVID board :).

I bought eleven rack without protools in this month.
I was wondering can I use eleven rack with vst impulses loader (kefir, lecab) in my DAW (Reaper)?

How I can correctly set up?

I have not found any information on the web.

I gave this question at http://elevenrackusers.blogspot.com but I don't get any information from them :).

I will be grateful for your help.

Cheers
Tianzhu
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: Eleven rack + vst impulses loader - reaper

Make sure you're using software monitoring, meaning when you add an effect to a track you can hear the effect as you play guitar. All you have to do is Disable the ELEVEN RAck on board CAB. In the track in REAPER activate a track for monitoring (software monitoring) and make sue when you deactivate the track no sound is heard. Now you can add the VST loader as an effect and load any IR. once you activate the track in reaper for monitoring you will hear only the track and VST effects loaded on that track.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: Eleven rack + vst impulses loader - reaper

Deansy, thanks for your reply, I'm very appreciate for your help.

I writing my setting:
ASIO DRIVER: AVID ELEVEN RACK - on
Enable inputs:
first eleven rig L
last eleven rig R

Output:
Main out L
Main out R

Record Armed - on
Record monitor - on

VST IR loader with IR - on (i checked 3 differents vst loaders)
CAB from eleven rack is BYPASS (+ SPEAKER BREAKUP: 0.0)

I checked as you wrote "make sue when you deactivate the track no sound is heard"

I heard sound even track is deactivated (all the time).

When I loaded to activated track vst amp + IR loader i hear 2 different sound (blend) once from eleven rack and double from VST.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:39 AM
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Default Re: Eleven rack + vst impulses loader - reaper

As I personally don't use reaper I can't give the specific instructions because they might use different terminology to what I'm used to in cubase. You can do a search in Reaper forum about "how to monitor live effects". But I believe the key setting in Eleven rack that will make this work is setting digital output option to DAW

From the eleven Rack Manual page 95
Digital Output
Adjust the Output control to choose the type of
signal being passed to the digital outputs.

chose DAW and if if this helps




Here I found this video that might help even though it's for vocals, it should work the same way for guitar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2moD4UZsAEM
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: Eleven rack + vst impulses loader - reaper

as far as ik know there is no way of muting the direct 11r sound in your headphone in other daws than protools,i also had your problem, the only way i know is to lower the rug output and output to amp to a level that u cant hear it and raise the volumwe on the daw track.sadly only pt have the option to mute headphones as far as i know you mau tru that daw output suggestiion from deansy,i didnt try it if i remember right
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: Eleven rack + vst impulses loader - reaper

I use it in Cubase and it works fine with the SPDIF. I just set the digital output option IN ELEVEN RACK to DAW. With this setup and selecting software monitoring in Cubase I only hear a sound when I enable an audio track for monitoring. there's about 10ms Latency but I can load impulses and the only thing that's heard is what's processed through cubase as it should. It should work with Reaper, there's probably a monitor button that allows using of software monitoring to hear live VST effects. You're probably right regarding keeping the 1/4 inch output connected, in my setup I monitor using SPDIF connected to another audio interface but the 1/4 inch out aren't connected but I will double check to see if it would work with the quarter inch also.
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:20 AM
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Default Re: Eleven rack + vst impulses loader - reaper

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Originally Posted by Tianzhu View Post
I bought eleven rack without protools in this month.
I was wondering can I use eleven rack with vst impulses loader (kefir, lecab) in my DAW (Reaper)?



Cheers
Tianzhu
having the same problem I think. Only way that worked for me was to turn up the volume on Le Cab all the way, turn down the output level a little bit and turn the track volume all the way up. With the pod hd I could go to my control panel on my computer and go to line 6 options and turn down the hardware monitoring level I think it was and hear and that would get rid of the scratchy amp only with no cab sound. Eleven rack doesn't have that option. Is there seriously no way other than the way described above to run just the amp with Le Cab? Seems like such a simple thing.
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:12 AM
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Yes it's big problem that users can't turn off cabs in other DAW and use external IR loader like lecab.

Finally In last week I recieved my Pro Tools 8LE, must wrote that finally I'm very happy, 11R now give me much more options to get my sound, now I can load impulses respons through for example recabinet that I bought in past, I'm going to buy mixIR in future :).

11R have great IR response but I wan't to use my IR's that I paid for :).

I must wrote that 90% presets that I load into my 11R are made by Brian :).
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