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Midi gurus out there...
Hey guys, I've been using MIDI since it came out in the early early 80s, and it's still an integral part of what I do. We sort of take it for granted, but I believe it's one of the greatest music innovations of this century. I sometimes have to reproduce instrumentation in already recorded songs, and it was usually by ear if scores were unavailable. To the rescue... Audio to MIDI! It's amazing, and I use it sometimes in my usual workflow.
Now to my question: Are there any tricks for targeting specific instruments in a full mix? To be clear, converting an entire mix to MIDI results in a mess of notes. If, for instance, I want to limit the detection and focus on say the piano, is there a way to not have the entire mix detected? Or at least have most of it undetected except for the piano? I've considered the idea of filtering out certain ranges with EQ, but I realize overlapping frequencies could pose a problem and some unneeded instruments might be detected, but editing could remove the unwanted notes. Does anyone have any bright ideas?
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Midi gurus out there...
Use a ‘music unmixer’ app to isolate instruments and then use Audio to MIDI.
If you have Izotope RX, you can use the music rebalance module, isolate the bass for example and then use Audio to MIDI in PT to get the MIDI part. Can work well, but it’s obviously program dependant and will likely still need to be cleaned up/edited. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Totally. Not knowing what you were going to feed into it, I took a stab in the dark. But you’re bang on. It will only be useful for minimal stuff not dense layers of instruments. We’re not quite there yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Re: Midi gurus out there...
Not quite there yet, but it's still magical. Hopefully, it'll be developed further.
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Re: Midi gurus out there...
If it's easier/possible to sing/hum the melody or notes you want to transcribe (at least to start off the work), that could be easier than playing for example a horn or string on a MIDI keyboard, and then you could Audio-to-Midi your new recording. I'm not a multi-instrumentalist whatsoever, but I have pretty good relative pitch in my voice that it might work in some situations.
Otherwise, yes, the more complex the mix and melody, the tougher time current tools have for simple extraction and "unmixing." I totally expect machine learning to improve the state of "Music Rebalance" plugs in the coming years. I know my ears have my WHOLE lifetime of training, so it's easiER for me to take a mix apart in my attention, so I think a computer could one day do it at least better than so far. I definitely don't think it's done with!
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