HD Native Upgrade or Downgrade?

[albee1952]

Latency compensation for plugins works just as it does for every DAW on the planet. Everything gets delayed to match whatever track has the highest latency from plugins(assuming its within the 4096 samples that Pro Tools allows for). I am speaking of native here as I don't work on HD enough to know if they have a bigger range of compensation. For this reason, i tend to avoid any plugins on the master and leave ADC off until i finish tracking. As for master plugins, I tend to leave that as a separate process anyway(but will toss Waves L2 on the master for a quick reference bounce).

[filosofem]

Originally Posted by albee1952

I am speaking of native here as I don't work on HD enough to know if they have a bigger range of compensation.

Pro Tools DSP based systems have a maximum delay compensation length of 4095 samples, Dave.

[filosofem]

Originally Posted by nst7

There's more to HD Native than meets the eye, because of how it's designed. http://www.avid.com/static/resources...ilyLatency.png

Thanks for posting that nst7. Yes, although Native card does not have the same round trip latency as DSP PCIe based systems. Native card does out perform FireWire and USB based systems due to how the Native cards onboard FPGA processing handles the I/O. Thus separating Native card from USB and FireWire based systems by a considerable amount.

[BobbyDazzler]

Originally Posted by digidesigner

Things like that make me sceptical of guys saying "i run gazillion plugins at the buffer of 32 without a hiccup!"

I can run 361 Dverbs on a 64 buffer (483 on 1024 buffer)
It really is plugin dependant though. Some plugs seem to be way more efficient with their code than others.
Having gone from TDM to RTAS, I still do the exact same amount of tracking through plugins that I used to do, (which is very little).
The biggest workflow change for me is keeping an eye on the buffer and CPU settings.

[digidesigner]

Native processing for real time audio will probably be officially good when someone comes out with a live mixing console like Venue and proves it works reliably enough :)

One more thing I started thinking about HD Native and how "cheap" it will be in the end.. do you guys realize you will be buying a new computer every year as you are addicted to getting MORE cores and mhz :) Good old G5 would still be "doing the trick" if Apple didn't kill the OSX on it for most TDM users

[filosofem]

Originally Posted by digidesigner

do you guys [Native card users] realize you will be buying a new computer every year as you are addicted to getting MORE cores and mhz :)

Good old Mac user, never lifted the lid off his computer. PC users generally are savvy and update intermittently when component support is suitable. Upgrades however are rare but necessary once every three to four years due to the rapid nature of components no longer in circulation.

[Hercules]

As long as you mean "PC replacement" when you say "upgrade" ;-). The leapfrog methodology is the lowest risk.

[nerd513]

i already have

[ejwells]

Originally Posted by nerd513

i already have

Oy (pt. II)

[Dism]

Originally Posted by ejwells

Oy (pt. II)

It did better in the box office, but doesn't quite compare to the original.