HEAT in Native P Tools. Is this possible?

[WernerF]

Avid could still continue to be a hardware based comany as they are the only company that offers a true DSP card based system. As for interface sales, they need to compete on the open market based on assesment of the quality of their product. Also HDX/HDN offers, in addition to higher track count and I/O than vanilla, disk cache , new metering, VCA's, volume trim and more. If HEAT were to be made available in HDN it could be offered as an expensive option. I would pay a higher premium to get it in HDN, as opposed to the price that it costs to get it in HDX, just like the unfortunate CPTK owners are being charged double for an upgrade to HD compared to HD owners.

[nigelpry]

I ran a Lada estate with reinforced rear suspension for years to haul my keyboard rig when I was a regular gigging musician. Was happy to throw stuff into it, it never complained, and nobody ever stole it ;-)

Couldn't praise it highly enough, and whenever i hit some car park brick wall, I always came away unscathed (unlike several of the walls ... those Lada estates were built on a cast iron frame after all). It never, in 12 years, failed to start when I turned the key.

Unlike my BMW touting guitarist, who had to be rescued by the AA numerous times.

Hell, the mechanics were so simple I could fix most things myself, and a generous spray of WD40 around the engine compartment from time to time was done to keep it in tip top condition ;-)

I only scrapped it when it became hard to get parts in the UK. I'll have to get the hanky out now, I'm getting all teary-eyed and nostalgic ;-(

[Dave Lang]

In the spirit of having fun with analogies....

Forcing people to buy Avid hardware to use Avid software does not flatter the Avid hardware.

It's more like saying "If you want to take me to the movies you have to take my ugly kid sister (or brother)".

[WernerF]

Exactly. Succesfully competing with other IO makers based on the merits of the product builds way more brand loyalty than artificial marketing department market restrictions.

[DAWgEAR]

Dave, very well said.

[zedhed]

Originally Posted by WernerF

Avid could still continue to be a hardware based comany as they are the only company that offers a true DSP card based system. As for interface sales, they need to compete on the open market based on assesment of the quality of their product. Also HDX/HDN offers, in addition to higher track count and I/O than vanilla, disk cache , new metering, VCA's, volume trim and more. If HEAT were to be made available in HDN it could be offered as an expensive option. I would pay a higher premium to get it in HDN, as opposed to the price that it costs to get it in HDX, just like the unfortunate CPTK owners are being charged double for an upgrade to HD compared to HD owners.

Looking into the future, judging by how powerful computers have become lately, I guess the question needs to be asked; Will there be any real need for DSP cards going forward. Will they just be a specific way of selling Hardware?

[Barry Johns]

Originally Posted by zedhed

Looking into the future, judging by how powerful computers have become lately, I guess the question needs to be asked; Will there be any real need for DSP cards going forward. Will they just be a specific way of selling Hardware?

People have been saying we are already there for the last 5 years! We are not even close yet for serious recording, which is why HD Native cant be used in a real recording environment and the Apogee Symphony deal was all hype and no reality. I owned it two separate times! We are in reality a very long way off, DSP is the only way, now and in the near future.

Whether its HD or something like the Apollo, that's the only way for the next 5 years or so. IMHO.

HDX, I personally see no real option today, tomorow, who knows. TDM is still, to this day, very compelling!

[WernerF]

Oddly enough, I find myself in the same camp when it comes to a Native versus a DSP solution. I've never, though, had the chance to compare the two systems side by side in a real world situation. I'd be willing to bet that the DSP system would be the only one that could handle the requirements of a full on record making situation, start to finish, but I'm open to being proved wrong. If a Native system, with ALL of the HD features included of course, could stand up to an HD system life would suddenly get just a little bit more affordable.

[Emcha_audio]

Originally Posted by WernerF

Avid could still continue to be a hardware based comany as they are the only company that offers a true DSP card based system. As for interface sales, they need to compete on the open market based on assesment of the quality of their product. Also HDX/HDN offers, in addition to higher track count and I/O than vanilla, disk cache , new metering, VCA's, volume trim and more. If HEAT were to be made available in HDN it could be offered as an expensive option. I would pay a higher premium to get it in HDN, as opposed to the price that it costs to get it in HDX, just like the unfortunate CPTK owners are being charged double for an upgrade to HD compared to HD owners.

I wasn't talking of HDN when I made the comparison But HDX vs vanilla, where if they were to include Heat in the Vanilla version then it would trump some of the appeal of HDX. I agree that if they were able to set it for HDN as a premium options that would be nice. But not in Vanilla

[Emcha_audio]

Originally Posted by nigelpry

I ran a Lada estate with reinforced rear suspension for years to haul my keyboard rig when I was a regular gigging musician. Was happy to throw stuff into it, it never complained, and nobody ever stole it ;-)

Couldn't praise it highly enough, and whenever i hit some car park brick wall, I always came away unscathed (unlike several of the walls ... those Lada estates were built on a cast iron frame after all). It never, in 12 years, failed to start when I turned the key.

Unlike my BMW touting guitarist, who had to be rescued by the AA numerous times.

Hell, the mechanics were so simple I could fix most things myself, and a generous spray of WD40 around the engine compartment from time to time was done to keep it in tip top condition ;-)

I only scrapped it when it became hard to get parts in the UK. I'll have to get the hanky out now, I'm getting all teary-eyed and nostalgic ;-(

lol yeah I never said they weren't tough little buggers.