drum bus delay

[univox1]

im trying to bus drum trax to 2 trax, compress them, then mix that with the original drum signal. they come up out of phase. i tried to time adjust and flip phase but no luck making it work. anyone have any hints?

[stormpro]

Are you bussing only select drums like the kick and snare or the whole kit? Are you going outside the box for the compressor or are you doing this all in the box? What pro tools system are you on? ie 002, HD?

[Dopamine]

Did you figure out the problem?

[proxy]

I've done this by sending the same signal to two different auxes, one with the plug enabled, one with the exact same plug(s) but bypassed.

Maybe that will help...?

- proxy

[univox1]

i bussed the whole kit and stayed inside protools mix 3, tdm.

[clusterer]

perhaps you have had any plugz on your return - i mean before you were recording it to hd?
i´m often bussing out a drum-sum and return it to the mix without any latency...
second thing i´d give a try is reducing the HW/buffersize...
in some cases delay-compensation also doesn´t work perfectly...

greets

[2004redsox]

I was wondering how to deal with this problem also. I think that Dopamine's idea sounds good. Since you will be introducing the same amount of delay on both aux tracks this will keep your drums in phase.

[univox1]

i figured it out. or maybe i didnt understand others suggestions. send the drums to bus 1-2. create 2 aux returns with both inputs set to bus 1-2 in. put the same plug in on both and bypass one. the trick is having 2 bus's with the same inputs.

thanx ya'll

[TLmix]

good workaround. The delay comp doesn't quite cut it for double bussing like this... especially with vocals.


TL