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Any advantage to Ventura compared to Monterey?
I've seen a few people mentioning a performance boost with an OS update. I'm currently running Pro Tools Ultimate (22,12,0) with Monterey (12.6.1) native on a
2019 iMac (3.6 GHz 8-core intel core I9) with 64 gigs of ram and all SSDs. Would I get any performance boosts, quicker load times if I moved up to Monterey? |
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Re: Any advantage to Ventura compared to Monterey?
I don't know.
But this is my experience; I went from Big Sur to Ventura recently on my M1 Mini, a couple of weeks before I got a base model M2 Mini. On the M1, PT performance, and performance in general was the same w/both OS versions. With Ventura on M2, I get around 25% faster startup, 25% faster PT launch, and that's about it, and it's due to the M2, not Ventura. I haven't tried pushing/testing PT performance. With these M processors, the general performance is so good that it's not easy to even see a difference. No matter what processor or OS versions. Ventura advantages? No. I could go back to Big Sur today, and I wouldn't miss a thing from Ventura.
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Re: Any advantage to Ventura compared to Monterey?
I upgraded my laptop to Ventura and wish I hadn't. I'm getting beachballs I wasn't getting with Monterey and there are other seemingly random system halts. I have no idea why but it *feels* like it's being more careful when analyzing files or when adding network drives to the system (which is, in a sense, the same thing). Perhaps Ventura employs stricter security measures. I don't know but I don't like it. And although I've nearly adjusted to the new System Settings I adamantly disagree that this new architecture is an improvement over the previous one, which was never broken IMO.
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Re: Any advantage to Ventura compared to Monterey?
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Dominic
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MacBookPro M1Max 16" 10/32 64GB 2TB, Ventura 13.6.6, Pro Tools 2023.12.1, Carbon. |
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Re: Any advantage to Ventura compared to Monterey?
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If you have a Time Machine backup Eric, the laptop can be reformatted with Monterey and just migrate the old system in. Obviously take a separate backup of anything you need.
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Re: Any advantage to Ventura compared to Monterey?
Not really. Pro Tools needs Spotlight on to work these days (as specified in the Release Notes). So that's your system drive with compulsory Spotlight and slowdown already. And while you can turn it off for each external drive when you first mount the drive, I would expect that you might want to search that drive at some point?
I still have a copy of EasyFind - old program but works on Monterey - which I use for searching drives including hidden files and folders. Works well, but takes an age. It's a good old traditional brute-force search, no indexing. Not sure if it will work with Ventura. But I'm not averse to turning off Spotlight, it just can cause more trouble than it's worth. "Poor Pro Tools playback performance on macOS Ventura when running Spotlight. (PT-289806) Running Spotlight on macOS Ventura can impact Pro Tools playback performance. The impact on Pro Tools is worse in recent macOS releases because of additional tasks now performed by Spotlight such as parsing images for image recognition. To avoid performance issues, do one of the following:
Of course, this is completely inconsistent with the advice to leave Spotlight running, as Pro Tools needs it to work. A bit like how you should have your WiFi off. And also on. Dominic
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Re: Any advantage to Ventura compared to Monterey?
From the same Release Notes:
Enable Spotlight for best performance when relinking files and indexing in the Workspace (PTSW-183818) For best performance with relinking and Workspace indexing, enable Spotlight. While enabling Spotlight is not required, it will improve performance in this area with Pro Tools. When Spotlight is enabled, long record passes (over 50 minutes) may stop recordings after 50+ minutes. Consider disabling Spotlight for long recording sessions and then re-enable it when you are done recording. So, not compulsory. But needed. Sometimes. Clear now?
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MacBookPro M1Max 16" 10/32 64GB 2TB, Ventura 13.6.6, Pro Tools 2023.12.1, Carbon. |
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Re: Any advantage to Ventura compared to Monterey?
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best, rich
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http://www.richbreen.com ---------------------------------------- Mac Studio / Ventura, PT 2023.12.HDX, Avid HD I/Os and Metric Halo ULN8, 3xS1/Dock Also running a Mac Studio Ultra / Ventura / HDX / MTRX / S6 |
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Re: Any advantage to Ventura compared to Monterey?
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Dominic
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MacBookPro M1Max 16" 10/32 64GB 2TB, Ventura 13.6.6, Pro Tools 2023.12.1, Carbon. |
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Re: Any advantage to Ventura compared to Monterey?
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+1 for Find Any File! It’s helped me find things when all else failed.
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