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Old 07-20-2023, 12:34 PM
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Default Issues with EuCon 23.6 Command - CR, ref

I created a softkey, mapped to a button on my Dock to toggle the CR Ref function on the monitor control for my MTRX Studio. I added the command EUCON (DADman) CR, ref from Monitors->CR, general->CR, ref.

When I engage this command, Ref does toggle in DADman, but the Main monitor level on the Monitor page of the control app doesn't update to 0.0, and when Ref is toggled off, the monitor control no longer functions and seems to be frozen at whatever value it was when Ref was first toggled. I could probably live with the monitor value not showing as 0.0 in the control app, although some sort of visual indication that Ref was engaged would be nice. But using this command breaks any use of the monitor control from either the Control app onscreen pot, or either of the Dock monitor level encoders.

Closing and relaunching the Control app on the tablet results in the monitor control showing no value and no being operable. Restarting EuCon applications restores the monitor level functionality. Cut, either by pressing the monitor knob or pressing the onscreen cut button still works.

I've also occasionally gotten the message "EuControl has had a fatal error and had to shutdown", but I'm not sure if this is related.

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Dock + 3xS1. Testing on an Amazon Fire 10HD, as I can roll that one back to Control 2022.12. All the other tablets were turned off for this testing.

FYI, my use case is that I want to toggle Ref on and then off again to quickly reset my monitor level to 0, which is my calibrated level. I often have to preview a mastered piece of music or other vey loud content and then quickly reset to my ref level. I find manually turning to knob to get back to zero quite fiddly.

P.S. Apologies for the iPhone picture being upside down. Can't seem to fix that.
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: Issues with EuCon 23.6 Command - CR, ref

We can take a look at this and get back to you.
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Old 07-20-2023, 01:07 PM
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We can take a look at this and get back to you.
Much appreciated, Eddie! I am really loving the Automation/Trim functionality for the A/Rec button and can't wait to dig into the other features. It would be great for my workflow to get the Ref toggle working right.

Let me know if you need any more info from me.
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I've found that the Control App and the Dock lose the ability to properly display/manipulate monitor controls semi-regularly. May not be directly related to your issue but I've found a simple workaround that is consistent to get it working when mine exudes this behavior.

Focus the DADMan app on your computer and tap the "Mixer" page on the iPad on your Dock. Then just tabbing back to the "Monitoring" page on the iPad the rotary encoders all work again. This has been happening to me since I acquired my MTRX Studio which was not long after it was initially released. I thought it was due to my very unsupported Mac Pro but I've also experienced this on multiple Mac Studios running Ventura. Fix works just the same.

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Old 07-21-2023, 06:59 AM
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I've found that the Control App and the Dock lose the ability to properly display/manipulate monitor controls semi-regularly. May not be directly related to your issue but I've found a simple workaround that is consistent to get it working when mine exudes this behavior.

Focus the DADMan app on your computer and tap the "Mixer" page on the iPad on your Dock. Then just tabbing back to the "Monitoring" page on the iPad the rotary encoders all work again. This has been happening to me since I acquired my MTRX Studio which was not long after it was initially released. I thought it was due to my very unsupported Mac Pro but I've also experienced this on multiple Mac Studios running Ventura. Fix works just the same.

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Thanks, I'll try this. I also find that the encoders on the Dock often stop working when the app is on the Monitor page, while the controls on the touch screen continue to work. I usually quit the app on the Dock tablet and relaunch, but it often takes multiple tries to restore functionality, and I sometimes have to restart EuCon. I'll try this and see if it works. Much appreciated!!
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Thanks, I'll try this. I also find that the encoders on the Dock often stop working when the app is on the Monitor page, while the controls on the touch screen continue to work. I usually quit the app on the Dock tablet and relaunch, but it often takes multiple tries to restore functionality, and I sometimes have to restart EuCon. I'll try this and see if it works. Much appreciated!!

Yes, I'm seeing the same thing with Sphere locked to the monitor tab. The rotary encoders often stop working and then mysteriously regain function in the future. I thought it was something I was doing.
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Old 08-28-2023, 05:25 PM
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I've found that the Control App and the Dock lose the ability to properly display/manipulate monitor controls semi-regularly. May not be directly related to your issue but I've found a simple workaround that is consistent to get it working when mine exudes this behavior.

Focus the DADMan app on your computer and tap the "Mixer" page on the iPad on your Dock. Then just tabbing back to the "Monitoring" page on the iPad the rotary encoders all work again. This has been happening to me since I acquired my MTRX Studio which was not long after it was initially released. I thought it was due to my very unsupported Mac Pro but I've also experienced this on multiple Mac Studios running Ventura. Fix works just the same.

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Thanks for this, Chris. This consistently works to get the Dock working with Monitor controls again, and it's quite a bit less hit or miss than quitting and restarting the Control app.
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Default Re: Issues with EuCon 23.6 Command - CR, ref

I also have this problem often and the solution for me is also moving to the mixer tab and then back to the monitor tab.
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I've found that the Control App and the Dock lose the ability to properly display/manipulate monitor controls semi-regularly. May not be directly related to your issue but I've found a simple workaround that is consistent to get it working when mine exudes this behavior.

Focus the DADMan app on your computer and tap the "Mixer" page on the iPad on your Dock. Then just tabbing back to the "Monitoring" page on the iPad the rotary encoders all work again. This has been happening to me since I acquired my MTRX Studio which was not long after it was initially released. I thought it was due to my very unsupported Mac Pro but I've also experienced this on multiple Mac Studios running Ventura. Fix works just the same.

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Thanx Chris, this is really helpful workaround!
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Old 12-01-2023, 10:19 AM
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Hey Eddie,
Any updates on this? I didn't see anything mentioned in the 2023.11 release notes.
Thanks!!
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