All In One Channel Strip in AAX DSP

[ReynaldoPena]

Is there anything like Schep's Omni Channel and/or Nectar in AAX DSP?

[massivekerry]

Originally Posted by ReynaldoPena

Is there anything like Schep's Omni Channel and/or Nectar in AAX DSP?

All of the Plugin Alliance strips (bx & Lindell), McDSP...

[ReynaldoPena]

Originally Posted by massivekerry

All of the Plugin Alliance strips (bx & Lindell), McDSP...

Lindell is not AAX DSP

Bx has nothing with a De-Esser, saturator and a gate alongside EQ and comp.

McDSP, aside from the fact that I don't find it competent enough, I'm limited to adding only 3 items to their 6050 channel strip. I just tried a few settings and the sound is just not the same as the Scheps and Nectar.

My main concern is a AAX DSP. I can work around it with a Lindell 7x-500, SSL but I have to add a De-Esser. As self recording artist, the volume of the work I do is really high, this is why I'm looking into the options out there.

[massivekerry]

Originally Posted by ReynaldoPena

Lindell is not AAX DSP

Bx has nothing with a De-Esser, saturator and a gate alongside EQ and comp.

McDSP, aside from the fact that I don't find it competent enough, I'm limited to adding only 3 items to their 6050 channel strip. I just tried a few settings and the sound is just not the same as the Scheps and Nectar.

My main concern is a AAX DSP. I can work around it with a Lindell 7x-500, SSL but I have to add a De-Esser. As self recording artist, the volume of the work I do is really high, this is why I'm looking into the options out there.

Ah, I see. Sounds like you're looking for a vocal-focused channel? I agree that I haven't noticed one with a dedicated de-esser and saturator. I think some of the bx strips do have a gate/expander. So does Avid's Channel Strip plugin (which I forgot, because I find it awkward to use). If you're just using them for tracking (since your sig says Carbon) do you really find it crucial to have all of that in-line when tracking? When I need to sing to a special effect (like distortion or a load of stuff in Nectar) I send it to an Aux with that stuff and set that to DSP-safe. I also usually like to choose my de-esser and saturation afterwards, just for flexibility.

[ReynaldoPena]

Originally Posted by massivekerry

Ah, I see. Sounds like you're looking for a vocal-focused channel? I agree that I haven't noticed one with a dedicated de-esser and saturator. I think some of the bx strips do have a gate/expander. So does Avid's Channel Strip plugin (which I forgot, because I find it awkward to use). If you're just using them for tracking (since your sig says Carbon) do you really find it crucial to have all of that in-line when tracking? When I need to sing to a special effect (like distortion or a load of stuff in Nectar) I send it to an Aux with that stuff and set that to DSP-safe. I also usually like to choose my de-esser and saturation afterwards, just for flexibility.

I'll def. try this tomorrow. Man I went at it with the Channel Strip and found the perfect tone and perfect setup to match my Schep's Omni Channel vocals. I also finally learned how to use bomb factory. As a noob I'd crank the input knob and stopped using it after hearing it choked my vocals. I set the input knob at about 40% with the output at about 60% and it's excellent. Avid's channel strip is underrated I see.

[dominicperry]

Metric Halo channel strip is AAX-DSP and is AS native too, if you're using an M1/M2 machine.

I bought it because bx_console_N (which I really like) loads really slowly on the Carbon if you put it on multiple channels, and also hasn't been updated to run on the AS PT build.

It's expensive unfortunately. I bought the whole Metric Halo bundle to save money!
The De-esser and "Character" (which is a saturation plug) are part of the bundle, rather than part of the channel strip.
The channel strip has a Gate/Expander built in, but the separate Expander/Gate plug has rather high latency, so you wouldn't want to use it when tracking. The channel strip performs well.

EDIT: OK, here's the list. Assume the Carbon in DSP mode has 36 samples delay at 96KHz - which is 0.38ms with no plugins. Additional delay in samples.

Avid Channel Strip: 10 samples
Metric Halo Channel Strip: 10 samples
Metric Halo Character (drive/saturation): 14 samples
Metric Halo De-esser: 60 samples
Metric Halo MultiBand Dynamics: 14 samples
Metric Halo Expander/Gate: 202 samples
Metric Halo Transient Control: 10 samples

So, as an example, if you add the MH Channel Strip (10 samples) and MH De-Esser (60 samples) plus base latency (36 samples) you get 106 samples delay at 96KHz which is roughly 1.1ms delay.

Dominic

[JFreak]

^^ this is how latency adds up in DSP systems. Back in the day I was laughed at when I told that my "blazing fast TDM system" constantly had real-life latency of about 350 samples (@48k) on a full mix, with a live band, in front of live audience, and the band had absolutely zero problem with the monitoring provided by PT.

[simon.a.billington]

Well there's the iZotope Neutron, but I'm guessing thats what you. meant when you said Nectar.