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Old 10-30-2009, 06:02 AM
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I'm pretty sure that as long as the "delay" sample count on each track is under the amount of your buffer.. you shouldn't hear any latency.. I use SSL Channel on each channel of my mixes and it ass 1 sample of latency. and most of my other plugins per channel have 0. Thats what i use for tracking at 64 buff

and once im going to mix down if i put buffer up to 1024

then on Master channel goes; Digi 7 ban(for low end cut at 20hz) 0 latency, then SSL Comp 1 sample latency, then Maxim 1024 Latency... but its on the master so it doesn't put the mixed channels out of sync.

and if im not mistaken.. if you have your buffer at 1024 on mix down and your tracks have plugins with 0-1024 sample latency.. they will be buffed.. and there for in sync. Plugins like Waves C-1 and some of that other crap that adds liek 3600 sample latency in my opinion shouldn't REALLY be used as an RTAS it should just be an AS... but the company wants you to have more options which in turn presents more problems with latency.

correct me if im wrong please because this is what i think is correct.
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:29 AM
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and if im not mistaken.. if you have your buffer at 1024 on mix down and your tracks have plugins with 0-1024 sample latency.. they will be buffed.. and there for in sync.
Last time I checked, this was not true. Also another thing to look at is the latency that the plug-in reports to PT. Last time I checked plug-in latency in LE, at least 50% of plug-ins I tested reported the wrong amount.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:22 AM
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and if im not mistaken.. if you have your buffer at 1024 on mix down and your tracks have plugins with 0-1024 sample latency.. they will be buffed.. and there for in sync.
Yeah thats not true the HWBS in PTLE or MP does not compenstate for delay - it simply is an amount of time given to the processor/s to process plugins before it is mixed with the original audio, just this.

A Digi rep told me otherwise at the S-S-R in manchester but he told me wrong as i started a thread up about this last year and it was confirmed it's for the above, unfortunately....
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:09 AM
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Does anyone here TRACK WITH SSL's on? I thought at 64 this might work, but i havent tried it so i havent checked it out.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:20 AM
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I'm pretty sure that as long as the "delay" sample count on each track is under the amount of your buffer.. you shouldn't hear any latency..
Not true.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:43 AM
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1. There's ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION between buffer size and plugin latency , unless we're talking about DSP-card-based plugins like UAD or Powercore.
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Does anyone here TRACK WITH SSL's on? I thought at 64 this might work, but i havent tried it so i havent checked it out.
2. If you track with your SSL channels activated, add 1 sample of delay to the already 64 samples of your buffer size. So you have 65. Doesn't sound that much worse than 64... So you can leave it on.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:49 AM
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Hmm.. alright.. well i guess its a good thing i don't use plugins that have high(or any) latency.

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Does anyone here TRACK WITH SSL's on? I thought at 64 this might work, but i havent tried it so i havent checked it out.
I do all the time with sessions 24bit/48khz @ 64 buffer.. the delay reported is 1 on the channel.. I'm not sure what that translates to but i have never had a person complain of any kinda doubling effect or delay. I have tracked 16 channels at once for a 1 hours Live set with SSL channel on each track with out any problems.
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care to drift back to 2006??? discussion been goin' on for quite some time
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:49 AM
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I use the Logic plugin.
Yeah but then you're stuck using Logic.
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Yeah but then you're stuck using Logic.
Sounds like you're stuck thinking about Logic 7.
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