Major dae error help -9073 and -9473

[jayagogetta]

hey everyone i have been in a slight situation the past few months trying to really figure this out but i cant, every time I'm in a mix of a song i get these errors like 20 min into the session that first reads DAE error -9073, something about the DAE engine is too slow or something like that, then when i use elastic properties i get another error that's is error number -9473 it has something to do about elastic property i don't recall exactly the error information but can someone please help me!!!

I'm running on a Intel mac with a 003, control 24, pro tools 9.1 with operating system leopard

[Park Seward]

Are you on Leopard 10.5 or Snow Leopard 10.6?

[Eric Seaberg]

Where's your hard-drive? You shouldn't be using the internal system drive for audio. You need an external drive... and NOT USB. Must be Firewire or better.

[jayagogetta]

Originally Posted by Eric Seaberg

Where's your hard-drive? You shouldn't be using the internal system drive for audio. You need an external drive... and NOT USB. Must be Firewire or better.

no i am new to this im actually using the internal secondary drive with just audio files on it, meaning that my pro tools files are running into my secondary hardrive and not an external

[Glide]

Originally Posted by jayagogetta

no i am new to this im actually using the internal secondary drive with just audio files on it, meaning that my pro tools files are running into my secondary hardrive and not an external

That's your problem - I had the exact same problem and went crazy searching here to find the repair. My reasoning was that a secondary internal drive would be faster than an external drive. So just to compare I went out and bought an external firewire drive for my Pro Tools operational drive and the errors completely disappeared. I now use the internal secondary drive just as a backup for my songwriting drive. Try it - get the fastest firewire external drive you can buy. Be sure to change the default drive in settings.

[OddsAre]

Originally Posted by Glide

That's your problem - I had the exact same problem and went crazy searching here to find the repair. My reasoning was that a secondary internal drive would be faster than an external drive. So just to compare I went out and bought an external firewire drive for my Pro Tools operational drive and the errors completely disappeared. I now use the internal secondary drive just as a backup for my songwriting drive. Try it - get the fastest firewire external drive you can buy. Be sure to change the default drive in settings.

Well I must admit that isn't the case for everyone. I have recorded and mixed almost 100 albums in the last 4 years on my Mac Pro using nothing but the internal secondary SATA drives, with zero issues. I have only used 80GB drives to keep the size low and the amount of data per drive low. I usually have 2 projects per drive and when both are done, they get backed up and then the drive erased/reformatted, writing zeros for one full pass.

Prior to that I used (and still own 5) OWC Mercury Firewire drives, which were flawless.

With a properly working system you should have no issues whatsoever recording to one of the secondary drives in you Mac Pro.

I'd do 2 things, 1st purchase an 80-250GB 7200RPM SATA drive (Seagate or WD Black, stay away from the cheaper Blue drives). Format it to OSX Extended (Journaled) using Disk Utility. Start a fresh session and see how it goes.

If still having issues try this: If your 4GB's of RAM consists of 4 sticks remove a couple sticks and mark them 1+2 to keep track of them, and mark the other 2 sticks 3+4. Rotate them around and see if you can isolate a bad stick. If it is 2 sticks of 2GB, think about purchasing 1 more 2GB stick and rotate two in at a time to see if you can narrow down an issue. If it's not the RAM then you will have 6GB, which doesn't suck.

[AxeDye]

I read about 8 replies

Try 10.6.5 i hear .6 has some issues... .7 is going to be nice lol i think so.

That external drive has nothing to do with your error. You can run pro tools on internal, usb 2.0 or firewire. It is suggested you dont use boot, but that will only boost performance by like 1% tops. When dealing with a multi track session firewire and internal are aleays better than usb2.0.

Make sure you have followed all the suggested tweaks for OSX.

Turning off auto system update, wifi and sleep are pretty important.

[jayagogetta]

Originally Posted by park seward

are you on leopard 10.5 or snow leopard 10.6?

10.6

[OddsAre]

Originally Posted by jayagogetta

I'm running on a Intel mac

That narrows it down to about 30 models in the last 5 years... More info, please be very specific, model, CPU, RAM, OS version number. As previously stated, what are you using for an audio drive? Hopefully a separate Firewire drive, and preferably not a huge slow drive with tons of files already on it...

[jayagogetta]

Originally Posted by OddsAre

That narrows it down to about 30 models in the last 5 years... More info, please be very specific, model, CPU, RAM, OS version number. As previously stated, what are you using for an audio drive? Hopefully a separate Firewire drive, and preferably not a huge slow drive with tons of files already on it...

i have a intel mac the tower, 3.0 ghz, 4gb ram, leopard 10.6, im using and internal secondary drive since i have 4 hardrives in the tower