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Re: New Mac Mini released
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Comb filtering is everywhere. If you kick your floor wedge a foot away it also changes sound slightly. Your brain has just learnt that this oldskool thing doesn't have anything wrong with it so you keep playing as before.
Buffer is too large when you hear clear echo/delay as in 512 buffer in a 48k session. IMO, if 256 buffer is playable (and it is) then it is good enough for a tracking session. (and the point of headphones being so much closer to ear, then how come people don't complain in-ears that are even closer, and a millimeter difference in how deep you have them makes -- in theory -- greater difference in comb filtering than anything. people just get used to whatever gear they use that are GOOD ENOUGH to be playable) I have used in-ears in tracking sessions with 256 buffer (48k) for +15 years successfully. Only time when someone has ever complained about echo/delay is when I accidentally instantiate a plugin that has too much latency. Proving the point of good enough.
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Can we get back to the performance of the Mac Mini (and Pro Tools)? Thanks.
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That's cool that you've proven your own point but in my +15 years of experience, 256 at 44.1 is flat-out undoable (not even close). 128 at 44.1 gets noticed rarely, almost always by drummers or vocalists (I can clearly hear it and it bothers me, so whether it's "GOOD ENOUGH" is at least debatable). 64 is great and its what I CHOOSE to track at 95% of the time because I have the capability to do so and feel I owe it to the talent. YMMV, of course, which is why our experiences are not gospel. |
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Sorry, but sometimes I just feel the need to mess up with the better-number-is-better discussions. Back to topic, at least for myself.
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I know, right? It's a hot-topic as it should be! But a topic for another thread.
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No worries, we've all been there :facepalm:
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But surely the only figure that matters is round trip latency? Sample buffers impose their own latency, but they are the lesser, more predictable, and controllable half of the equation. The bigger influence will be the interface and the quality of it's drivers. What is "GOOD ENOUGH" is quantifiable in real terms as a millisecond value. From there, it is simply a case of choosing an interface that fits the bill. If that figure happens to be 12ms, then that is an Echo Audio Audiofire12 running at 64 sample buffers... or an RME UFX+ running at 256 sample buffers.
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002Rack from 2002 was perfectly fine with 48k sessions and 256 buffers ... what has changed?
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FFS people ! Can you put your “my latency is smaller than yours” conversations aside and keep things to the new Mac Mini’s performance and all will be well with the world. Thanks!
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