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Mavericks tagging for sound library
We've been looking into a number of solutions for managing our sound FX library and I keep coming back to the idea of "tagging" as the search mechanism.
It just makes sense. To be able to just enter in "explosion", "rumble" or "gun" and return something immediately rather than having to traverse through some non-forward-thinking hierarchy. Now that Mavericks is out and makes use of tags, I wonder if the solution might be to dedicate a Mac Mini running Mavericks to act as an FX library manager. We're not upgrading the studio rig to Mavericks yet for obvious reasons but this seems like a pretty swell idea... Any thoughts?
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Re: Mavericks tagging for sound library
As far as I know, Tags is the new name for Labels with some improvements.
But you need to apply Tags to items, be it folders or files before you can recall them. Doing that in a SFX library can be a time consuming task. Also, Tags will be employed by Finder and not by the Workspace in PT. Search features on Workspace are greatly improved in PT11 with a new search engine and in my opinion works very well and is very fast. Apparently the system parses your files in the background and presents near instantaneous results on a query. So in my opinion and based on my personnal experience, your idea is costly and doesn´t add what you want easily. If you´re not on PT11 yet, have a look at the pdf document "What´s new in PT 11", chapter 4, page 17.
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Re: Mavericks tagging for sound library
Before you reinvent the wheel, check out Soundminer. Soundminer has very advanced search functions that support tagging, a thesaurus, etc. SM Server will probably do everything you need with no effort on your part.
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Re: Mavericks tagging for sound library
I guess my point was that if your OS can offer you the same searching features as a $900 piece of software, it's kind of a no-brainer.
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Re: Mavericks tagging for sound library
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I didn't realize you could add notes and such to the files in there, that's brilliant!
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Re: Mavericks tagging for sound library
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The only way around this is to tag your meta-data and embed that. All else is a pretty "fragile" system because you detach the info from the files. Meta-data was invented to put all that info INTO the files so a simple re-scan brings it all back. I wouldn't use the PT workspace to keep a ton of notes that you need for ever. The data will live or die at the mercy of AVID's DB management. The past has shown that very often catalogs didn't convert correctly or at all when AVID updated PT in the past. As long as PT isn't able to re-embed meta-data into BWAVs like soundminer I wouldn't waste time typing any library info into the workspace. Frank.
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Re: Mavericks tagging for sound library
Thanks guys.
I guess then I'm back to where I started.
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Re: Mavericks tagging for sound library
Interns!
Have them tag the files in Mavericks and add notes in the workspace. This way they get some basic PT and MacOS experience. See which you prefer and go with that. Soundminer is very good too. |
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Re: Mavericks tagging for sound library
I love it!
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Re: Mavericks tagging for sound library
And I thought America had ended slavery!
Spend $900 and teach your interns to edit and earn you money!
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