is this the future?

[Anibal]

cool stuff

http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/f...age-confirmed/

[dbjp]

Once this becomes affordable, and Digidesign either updates their cards to something resembling modern day technology (1 card = HD10, or something like that) or takes a different approach to the current DSP system, I'd be all over it.
As it stands, it's not of much use to us HD users using macs.

[Eric Lambert]

Originally Posted by dbjp

As it stands, it's not of much use to us HD users using macs.

I'm not sure how the two issues are related. Storage vs. processing power.

I'm crazy about this idea. Certainly there will be virgin issues (damn virgins!), but once they're ironed out, this will be an incredibly useful technology. As someone who's STILL fighting with I/O bandwidth issues with streaming audio and direct-from-disk playback, the (theoretical) 10GB/sec spec sits quite nicely in my brain.

As far as the date we can expect this -- if it's out now, it's out now. Nothing "2 years" about it. The price will drop as soon as there's competition, and it will be on a shelf at Best Buy in much less time. If we've learned anything about technology it's that new products elevate to "common" like a virus. I bet I'll have one in my Mac in a year. Maybe wishful thinking.

Out of curiosity, how long would a defrag take? A minute? A couple? Boot times would (should) decrease, too.

[dbjp]

Originally Posted by Eric Lambert

I'm not sure how the two issues are related. Storage vs. processing power.

How many spare PCIe slots do you have on your Mac?

[Howardk]

As these become prevalent, there will be an external pipe that has the speed as well. . . it is all inevitable. . .

[Table Syrup Records]

Originally Posted by dbjp

How many spare PCIe slots do you have on your Mac?

At least with PC's there's MOBO's with tons! And they don't have to be x1 / x4 slots either, they can be x16, but it'll only utilize x4 from what I read of the review.


The other thhing is that once this is adopted, MOBO's will be changed accordingly, just as they are now, and have been, for as long as computers have existed, in order to adopt new technology.

The interesting thing here is that I think we'll see a very fast skip over the SSD's at least in some applications in the near future.

Being these are already available for purchase (Even though insanely expensive) that just show how fast this technology has been accepted and how effective it is. On the corporate level these puppies are being bought, so that's just gonna speed the process of it trickling down to our local shelves at a more affordable price.

They're get cheaper and cheaper as Samsung, Seagate, Hitachi, Western Digital, etc, start manufacturing. Competition will drive the cost down.

I'm stoked. I was getting all set to build this quad with standard drives, but also pick up a couple ssd's to test it out, now I might just wait for these :)

[dbjp]

Here's a question for some of you that might be knowledgeable enough on the issue.

Back in the PT Mix/OS9 days, we had a period of a couple of months in the studio where Pro Tools became ridiculously unstable, crashing all the time.
After a lot of frustration and some researching, we found out that the SCSI (or was it ultra scsi?) drive was too fast (yeah, FAST) for PT. I honestly can't remember how fast it was, it was the fastest of its kind at the time, and all problems were solved once one of the engineers did something to slow it down. I think he said there was a switch somewhere, can't remember.

So, is this kind of problem a thing of the past? It really shouldn't be a problem, obviously, but it did happen in the past. With modern day coding in 64 bit, is everything completely different now? I hope so.

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by Eric Lambert

Out of curiosity, how long would a defrag take? A minute? A couple? Boot times would (should) decrease, too.

Why would you want to defrag? There's no need as the flash chip does not spin around. Same goes for RAM, you just access it and that's it.

Defragmenting means putting pieces into sensible order so spinning drive would be able to most often offer something useful for the r/w head than not. Damn those moving parts!

Boot times should decrease dramatically, yes. Throughput is everything. Minimal latency helps on this too as the system is actually transferring data more often than waiting for a proper place to start reading...

[rdolmat]

Originally Posted by Anibal

cool stuff

http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/f...age-confirmed/

For some reason, I can never trust flash memory for multiple writes-reads-rewrites. I've had too many flash drives fail after a certain amount of writes/reads... maybe that's just me, but I still love my old skool hard drives!

[Craig F]

$ per gig?