Avid Pro Audio Community

Avid Pro Audio Community

How to Join & Post  •  Community Terms of Use  •  Help Us Help You

Knowledge Base Search  •  Community Search  •  Learn & Support


Avid Home Page

Go Back   Avid Pro Audio Community > Pro Tools Software > Pro Tools
Register FAQ Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-13-2024, 06:50 PM
M Taylor M Taylor is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 7
Default Quicktime error - frame rate 48000fps?

I've had a client reject some audio only QuickTime I have delivered.

It appears that the sample rate of 48000Hz is also displaying as timecode which should actually be 25fps.

If I look at file info in QuickTime player its showing file has 2 mono audio tracks and a timecode track, as it should.

I'm wondering if there is a way to edit the QT meta data to reset timecode to 25fps?

I can't see any errors that I could have introduced in my ProTools session..

I'm running ProTools Studio 2023.12.1 with Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 USB on m1 MacBook Pro.

Any suggestions welcome..

Last edited by M Taylor; 02-14-2024 at 03:17 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-14-2024, 03:31 AM
tope d's Avatar
tope d tope d is online now
Avid
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 535
Default Re: Quicktime error - frame rate 48000fps?

Quote:
Originally Posted by M Taylor View Post
I've had a client reject some audio only QuickTime I have delivered.

It appears that the sample rate of 48000Hz is also displaying as timecode which should actually be 25fps.

If I look at file info in QuickTime player its showing file has 2 mono audio tracks and a timecode track, as it should.

I'm wondering if there is a way to edit the QT meta data to reset timecode to 25fps?

I can't see any errors that I could have introduced in my ProTools session..

I'm running ProTools Studio 2023.12.1 with Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 USB on m1 MacBook Pro.

Any suggestions welcome..
Can you post a screenshot of your session and bounce setting?
__________________
-Tope

To create a support case with Avid Support, go to https://www.avid.com/learn-and-suppo...-music-support

www.topedomingo.com
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-14-2024, 04:18 AM
M Taylor M Taylor is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 7
Default Re: Quicktime error - frame rate 48000fps?

Hi,

I have attached screen shots as requested.

Here is exact response from client:

Upon ingest of the AD .mov files, we’re getting a flag that “file contains an "Other" track with a frame rate value greater than 60”. Upon investigation it appears that the AD files have an fps of 48000 in the “other” section per the attached MediaInfo reports. This is also causing the frame count to be exponentially higher than it should be and affecting the timecode of last frame.

The other track they refer to is the timecode track in the MOV file.

Martyn
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Bounce settings.jpg (32.6 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg Session.jpg (42.1 KB, 0 views)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-14-2024, 05:57 AM
tope d's Avatar
tope d tope d is online now
Avid
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 535
Default Re: Quicktime error - frame rate 48000fps?

Quote:
Originally Posted by M Taylor View Post
Hi,

I have attached screen shots as requested.

Here is exact response from client:

Upon ingest of the AD .mov files, we’re getting a flag that “file contains an "Other" track with a frame rate value greater than 60”. Upon investigation it appears that the AD files have an fps of 48000 in the “other” section per the attached MediaInfo reports. This is also causing the frame count to be exponentially higher than it should be and affecting the timecode of last frame.

The other track they refer to is the timecode track in the MOV file.

Martyn
Sorry. A bit confused. The 48000 is the audio samplerate and not fps.
__________________
-Tope

To create a support case with Avid Support, go to https://www.avid.com/learn-and-suppo...-music-support

www.topedomingo.com
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-14-2024, 06:00 AM
tope d's Avatar
tope d tope d is online now
Avid
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 535
Default Re: Quicktime error - frame rate 48000fps?

I found a similar thread that might be of help with your issue
https://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=333693
__________________
-Tope

To create a support case with Avid Support, go to https://www.avid.com/learn-and-suppo...-music-support

www.topedomingo.com
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-14-2024, 07:40 AM
smurfyou smurfyou is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,738
Default Re: Quicktime error - frame rate 48000fps?

My advice would be to deliver a Broadcast WAV.

Do they require an audio only MOV? That seems silly and ripe for error.
__________________
~Will
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-14-2024, 07:58 AM
Kasper Kasper is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Boston,MA USA
Posts: 966
Default Re: Quicktime error - frame rate 48000fps?

This, smurfyou beat me to it, good advice.

Does the file sync?

Forget about the metadata, give them a TC start for the file or a 2 pop.




kasper
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-14-2024, 10:39 PM
M Taylor M Taylor is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 7
Default Re: Quicktime error - frame rate 48000fps?

Thanks for the responses, unfortunately end client facility will only accept an audio only QuickTime MOV, a stereo BWF would've been my preferred deliverable too, but it is definitely not an option.

These MOVs work fine in Premiere and Davinci Resolve and sync with the Video proxies that I had been supplied.

It appears that the end client's ingest system is having a problem with the timecode track in the MOV file that is exported from ProTools. They suggested to re-export an MOV, but without the timecode track. I couldn't see a way to do that in ProTools so instead I exported the MOV from Davinci Resolve, which created an MOV without timecode track, just the two (LR) audio tracks.

I'm hoping that these new versions will work fine in the ingest system and that'll be the end of it, but I will report back if not.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Quicktime and Pro Tools seeing video's frame rate differently gallant.b Post - Surround - Video 20 09-18-2011 11:22 AM
auto matching pull factors + frame rate + timecode rate Dingo90 Post - Surround - Video 1 10-17-2009 04:16 AM
Free Frame Rate and Frame Calc widgets dr sound Post - Surround - Video 1 08-21-2008 11:39 AM
7.3.1cs4 quicktime video Frame rate weirdness zsbates Post - Surround - Video 2 09-27-2007 03:25 AM
Quicktime to PT Frame rate conversion problem zoing123 Post - Surround - Video 12 03-05-2006 08:04 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:50 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. Forum Hosted By: URLJet.com