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Sync Issues with N.I. Electric Sunburst & Prime Bass
Hey Everyone,
I'm wondering if any of you have had a sync issue with the plugins from Native Instruments called Prime Bass or Electric Sunburst. I purchased these two plugins and they both have the same problem syncing up correctly with my Pro Tools session. I have followed all the video examples I can find and stepped through all the instructions in the manual, yet I still have a horrible time getting it to sync up with even the simplest of rhythms. Can anyone help? FYI, I have also reached out to Native Instrument's Support and their response was simply telling me to read the manual, (bastards!). |
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Re: Sync Issues with N.I. Electric Sunburst & Prime Bass
There are a lot of problems with midi and sync in PT. If your problem is about the internal syncing of the arpeggio to the protools clock check this, although it applies to Maschine it can be used for other NI and other non NI VI's sometimes. https://support.native-instruments.c...-11-or-Higher-
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Re: Sync Issues with N.I. Electric Sunburst & Prime Bass
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G9r...ew?usp=sharing
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Re: Sync Issues with N.I. Electric Sunburst & Prime Bass
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Unless you disable plugin delay on the tracks with the NI arpeggios running. But with plugin delay disabled, don't insert another plugin with quite some samples of delay into the chain because at that point there's no workaround anymore. I say plugins with quite some sample delay because they make it quite audible. But even a 30 sample delay adding plugin will shift timing, which isn't that audible for a rhythmic pattern, but already causes phase issues with side chain plugins like Kickstart and LFOtool also suffering from this delay compensation problem, and that's quite nasty for e.g. lows building up when you want to sidechain a bass-part to make room for the kick. There's a sticky thread about this PT-263943 bug: https://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=410911 . Hopefully it will be fixed within soon, while at the same time this issue exists for years and years already.
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Re: Sync Issues with N.I. Electric Sunburst & Prime Bass
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tBp...ew?usp=sharing
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Pro Tools Studio 2024.3 | Studio One Pro 6.6 | Logic Pro 10.8.1 | Dolby Atmos Render 5.2 & Album Assembler 1.3 | RME BabyFace Pro FS | UA Native Plugins & Sphere LX | SSL UC1 | 2023 Mac Studio M2 Max 12 Core CPU 38 Core GPU | MacOs 13.5.0 | Genelec 8020D & Yamaha MSP10 | Korg Kronos LS | Sonarworks Sound ID | Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro | DT 880 PRO | DT 770 Pro | etc. Last edited by ZoeMusic; 01-22-2024 at 12:35 AM. |
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Re: Sync Issues with N.I. Electric Sunburst & Prime Bass
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Just did a quick screen recording with what I experience over here: https://portals.wetransfer.com/revie...7-87e2fd962382
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Re: Sync Issues with N.I. Electric Sunburst & Prime Bass
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This is what it sounds like with the click unmuted. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DyO...ew?usp=sharing
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Re: Sync Issues with N.I. Electric Sunburst & Prime Bass
Huh, ok , and delay compensation is turned on, I assume, as otherwise the delay view would have been inactive. Anything else specifically you turned on or off as preference or whatever, because for about the last 10 years I didn’t get this to work. Also tried kontakt instead of komplete Kontrol but that makes no difference. The only variable I can think of is that I’m running sessions off HDX and you run pro tools natively as I can see.
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Re: Sync Issues with N.I. Electric Sunburst & Prime Bass
Ok, double checked running pro tools ultimate natively without HDX, same issues here. Which version of pro tools are you on if may ask? Also ultimate I suppose?
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Re: Sync Issues with N.I. Electric Sunburst & Prime Bass
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You know, you're right. I didn't notice that the delay compensation was turned off on the click track and when I turn it on I get the same results as you. See link below. I have never run into this issue before because when working from DAW to different DAW's, I had developed the habit when tracking to never use plugins with latency and when I do in the mix (ALL) the Instrument tracks are either Frozen at the Instrument and or committed. It's just the way I have always worked in Pro Tools. I have been doing it this way so long it's been out of sight and out of mind. You could always adopt this method If and until Avid finally decides to fix it or you could just use plugins that have zero latency for VI's. Many of them out there now have the option to be used at low latency or high latency for look ahead like limiters. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Xj0...ew?usp=sharing
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