The People Have Spoken

[wmcintyre]

Originally Posted by Marsdy

Not true.

The "angry mob" has already got the price of the 9HD to 10HD upgrade reduced by $400.

Can you tell me how?

[shea]

Originally Posted by 25ghosts

Before the ob went berserk, Max already spoke of that option. So no. That mob has achieved nothing. (Sadly)

Yes they have, Avid stock worthless

shea

[Marsdy]

Originally Posted by TLarvenz

As pointed out by Max, the support plan has existed for quite some time before the release of PT10. As much as I'd like to say that they have reacted to end users' pleas for mercy, they have not.

As a concession to the "angry mob", they bent the rules so that you could get a back dated upgrade to PT10, (until 31st December.) In the past, you would only be entitled to future upgrades AFTER the purchase of the ASS.

[Chris Lambrechts]

Originally Posted by shea

Yes they have, Avid stock worthless

shea

LOL ... as a direct result of that angry mob's opinion on Pro Tools 10 right ?


Chris

[25ghosts]

Originally Posted by Benoni

its catharsis for many people. The have convinced themselves because a new version has been released they must have it, yet they find the price off-putting, yet they are powerless to change it.... so they do what they can, which is write. Nothing wrong with that, though I don't understand why a few are trying to turn this into a war.

Well they dont do what they can.. They do what is comfortable. Getting what you really WANT is seldom achieved with comfort !

Unless you have a pocket full of sausage

But only if you bought that expensive fantastic tasting sausage

[Dan-Jay]

I would have bought it if it was 99 too. Too much. Not buying until 64bit. Maybe not even that. I have VE Pro.

[Marsdy]

Originally Posted by wmcintyre

Can you tell me how?

By purchasing support.

http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t...light=response

First post.

[25ghosts]

Originally Posted by Benoni

Agreed. On both sides as well.



You gotta love a rebel without a cause.




Well, not so much. You could go to another store. If the only 2 options in a town are either High Prices, or Low Quality, another retailer will come and scoop up business from each.

There is no need to stick with a decision if you are not getting the return you want. That is the "sunken cost theory" and it has destroyed many a business, consumer, and country.



3. Don't purchase either and use what you already have.




Or just don't buy it, and don't get upset about it. PT9 has no idea that PT10 was released.



Its catharsis for many people. The have convinced themselves because a new version has been released they must have it, yet they find the price off-putting, yet they are powerless to change it.... so they do what they can, which is write. Nothing wrong with that, though I don't understand why a few are trying to turn this into a war.




"Fairness" does not exist. Only a perception by a majority.



No need to organize, just don't buy it. Or if you must have it, sit it out a few months and wait for PT10 to appear on eBay for less. The holiday season is coming around and retailers are always putting up 15%, 20%, 30% off coupons. Just wait it out if you want it but don't want to pay full price.



There is no stronger message than a message by the market. So if you don't like the price, don't buy it. Easy. That doesn't mean Avid will budge, but you won't be subsidizing their decisions.



Unless you have a pocket full of sausage

Originally Posted by shea

Yes they have, Avid stock worthless

shea

IT was already spiraling towards rock bottom BEFORE the PT 10 release!
The people contemplating buying stock does NOT need to read the DUC to figure out that AVIDs stock won't skyrocket when releasing something that will disturb its own ecosystem.

[wmcintyre]

Originally Posted by Marsdy

By purchasing support.

http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t...light=response

First post.

thanks for the link but it doesn't seem possible to actually buy this in the UK. Does it?

[TLarvenz]

Originally Posted by Chris Lambrechts

You calculate the budget people want to put into a recording studio these days ....

And you know what .... we brought it onto ourselves and we're all part responsible for it ... you ... me and the entire music industry.

Now live and deal with it ..... it's what I do ...

Chris

You're a beautiful person and I genuinely love that you are willing to try to defend Avid's policies when there's a deafening silence from your coworkers.

But....
Two things:

First, the release date and pricing of the upgrades had been kept a mystery for YEARS (I assume because they didn't want the competition to steal Avid's idea to go 64 bit or let on that they would release new hardware). Aside from being clairvoyant, there was no way way for possibly budget for PT10 or HDX.

Second, I know that you like mentioning the number of sales it takes to hit the charts, but that's due to piracy (and a moral disconnect between stealing a physical product versus stealing a digital one). I think everyone agrees that from a studio perspective things would be better if people didn't download digital products illegally and we agree that it has led to a huge decrease in the revenues of studios, labels and artists. But a drop in studio revenues should probably lead to a drop in the price of their gear according to basic economics. Right? And yes, I understand and totally agree that the HDX cards deliver on that basic premise, but can the update pricing on the software?