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Ready to pull the plug. Yup - another goodbye post
I think Im done with Protools.
My annual renewal is coming due in 7 days. Ive been using Protools since V8 and M-audio. Ive spent way too much time over the years finessing Protools and not enough time doing what I love which like everyone here is about the music. Ive been slowly switching my workflow over to StudioOne (S1) and I have to admit, Im finally at a point where I can do so much more with the combination of Sibelius and S1 than I could ever do with Protools. I can run Sibelius through to S1 using virtual midi and /or midi over IP. Even with dozens of Virtual Instruments and effects, I can pipe the midi to the VSTs in S1 and the CPU hardly seems loaded down. Same for audio latency. Does it crash? Yes, but very infrequently. S1 is generally pretty solid. S1 isnt without its issues but what Ive noticed is that Presonus contrary to Avid, does appear to want to resolve known bugs. The community here has been begging Avid to fix existing bugs and not release new features until the known bugs are fixed. But that lands on deaf ears. When its working, Protools works well. For up to about an hour or so. Then I have to deal with
Protools crashes on tiny sessions with one VST that are created using the built-in templates. Thats just wrong. In my use case, I do like to edit music in notation mode. The built-in score editor is rather pointless for my needs. Now back to my renewal. I just cannot justify the return on my investment given that the problems I and a great many of you experience just never seem to get fixed. In Canada this amounts to $330. Thats half the price of new FaderPort 8 to replace my Command8. For what its worth, I did finally fix my problems with Command8 dropping offline all the time. Its now very rare that it happens. I set up a Virtual Here (https://www.virtualhere.com/home) USB server and access the Command8 via ethernet. For whatever reason, the virtual USB port appears to be better suited to the method Protools uses to talk to the Command8 as opposed to using the built-in USB ports on the DAW machine. I know that a lot of you get great value from using Protools. I'm finally good with the realization that it's not a good fit for my needs. Sorry for yet another goodbye post. Cheers and good luck guys! Alain |
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Re: Ready to pull the plug. Yup - another goodbye post
I use Nuendo the majority of the time. I only use PT when a clients give me something on it. I think I have had maybe 1 error with Nuendo ever that was not a beta plugin error that crashed it. Steinberg really seems to make sure the code it working right with Nuendo and Avid just does not seem to care at all.
If it was not for people giving me projects on PT I doubt I would ever use it. |
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Re: Ready to pull the plug. Yup - another goodbye post
Such a poignant fair well (I wonder what the physiological ramifications are of DUC likely being the only DAW forum that gets goodbye posts )
As Roy sang "Happy Trails To You" Or as Arnold so eloquently phrased it https://youtu.be/LRxaXmXvjnU
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System : Studio - Avid Carbon interface , PT Ultimate 2023.12 Mid 2020 (intel) iMac 27" Ventura 13.2 .1 Mobile - 2021 14 " MBP M1 Pro PT Ultimate 2024.3.0 --Sonoma 14.4 Enjoy the Journey.... Kev... |
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Re: Ready to pull the plug. Yup - another goodbye post
Goodbye then
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Re: Ready to pull the plug. Yup - another goodbye post
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Mac Studio (2022) M1 MAX / 64GB / 2TB HD / macOS Ventura 13.6.5 / RME BabyFace Pro FS / SSL UF8 + UF1 + UC1 / Roland SYSTEM 8 / Kontrol S61 mk3 / Pro Tools Studio 2024.3 / Nuendo 13 / Reaper 7 / Komplete 14 / Omnisphere / Keyscape / Trilian / V Collection X |
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Re: Ready to pull the plug. Yup - another goodbye post
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I'm tempted to switch to S1 for my composing work, though my post house work will always, of necessity, be PT. At the moment, though, my HP Z440 is handling PT brilliantly as long as I remember to kill Processor Zero in Affinity. Very few problems at all. In fact, once I switched from a Digidesign interface to a Focusrite, nearly all the problems I'd been plagued with for years disappeared. :shrug:
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Re: Ready to pull the plug. Yup - another goodbye post
Really dont understand why ”some” feel a Goodbye post is necessary and I am sorry but never seem you here so just go to whatever software that float your boat, no need to advertize leaving a ”DAW” LOL ... those ”Someones” LOL
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Re: Ready to pull the plug. Yup - another goodbye post
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tg
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Re: Ready to pull the plug. Yup - another goodbye post
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Just that if PT is this bad for anyone I believe there is more too it with system issues etc. S1 might not be the answer.
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Best Regards Christopher #thestruggleisreal South Side Music Group WEBHOME |
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Re: Ready to pull the plug. Yup - another goodbye post
Hmmm, there is no "perfect" DAW for everyone, so if another product suits your needs, then that's the product you should use. As for me:
Random crashes-Not here Disconnects on the Command8-old hardware I don't use Having to trash preferences-every once in a while(takes all of 20 seconds) Memory access violation errors-never seen this(and know nothing about your computer) Hanging on Quit which necessitates forcing a reboot-haven't seen this in years Hang on Start-this one has happened some in the last 6 months. Force-quit and re-start PT fixes it every time(IOW, it never hits more than once on system boot). Again, 20 seconds and I'm working There are GUI anomalies-Not here Scaling problems with plugins on high dpi monitors.-PT is not good on 4K so I don't try to run on 4K. My 4K main screen is running at 1920x1080 and looks okay for an LED TV. If it bugged me enough, I would just buy another quality monitor. The list goes on and on.-based on this list, I would have either gone with a different computer, or DAW a long time ago
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HP Z4 workstation, Mbox Studio https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...0sound%20works The better I drink, the more I mix BTW, my name is Dave, but most people call me.........................Dave |
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