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Re: S-3 vs D-Command
I think Eucon is so complex that nobody can predict where Avid has to do changes to get things working.
So while I'm sure you will get all new EuCon releases for S3, I doubt you get all new features... Like the PT Mixer is following the controller only in PT12 not 11. Have to test if VCA spill is in 11... That's from Avid: Quote:
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I think the easiest way to understand this would be that with any DAW manufacturers be it Pro Tools, Nuendo, logic etc its logical for them to invest more time on the current software version implementing new features etc moving the companies software and hardware integration forward. For example Logic no longer has updates for 9 but has for X so users have the option upgrade to stay current or move to the latest release. So with regards to EuControl it would be understandable if there will be more control implementation added in the future for Pro Tools 12 over 11. To stay current with the latest features this is where the support plan would come into play as the latest Eucon Control is most likely going to be based around the current version of Pro Tools. Regarding 3rd party DAWs this would be for them to work out from what new features become available in each EuControl Version. So as things move forward you may wish to update your Pro Tools version to take advantage of new EuControl and DAW feature implementation as things progress. Pro Tools is always going to be ahead of the others with regards to Eucon functionality as we know its primarily developed for use with Pro Tools then 3rd party DAWs do what they do. I'd expect if you see new features added to 11 then S3 being a supported surface will control them and the latest Eucon build will apply to you. However. As and when Pro Tools 12 has new features added we know the S3 will support them I guess it's just down to if we will see anything new added to 11 that the S3 will control ? The above is speculation on my part though. I'm a 12 user with no issues however if I was in the situation that I felt there was features I was missing out on I would either purchase the software or jump on the support plan. Another example of what's going on with EuControl is that it's used for PTC and that's only for PT12 What updates do you currently feel the S3 needs to control PT11 ? Idea scale would be a good place to post them with a follow up post on the forum here asking people to go vote on it.
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It would be pretty safe to say you will get the updates for free as PTC is running EuControl and is free. I'd think the only issue is if the updates are relevant to the version of Pro Tools that you are using. For example as I said above if it's a Pro Tools 12 feature then it wouldn't apply to you.
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The issue is that your results may vary on legacy software as half of making S3 (and all EUCON devices) work well with DAWs is DAW specific development. Most companies don't add new features to old releases, so any DAW's interoperability with EUCON will be dependent on their resource allocation to and deployment of the latest EUCON adapter. We generally support the latest and previous release for testing and qualifications, but new features are only in the latest version. JC |
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Barry, we have a lot to do here, developing products, researching new opportunities, and working together across teams (and companies) to make things happen. We can't be on the boards 24/7. You posted on 8/28, a Friday. I replied on 8/31, a Monday. We appreciate your patience and continued participation in the dialog. It seems we are having trouble communicating some points, that Norrie and others have helped clarify. If you need more time or attention from me on this, please email me directly at [email protected]. JC |
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The only useful info I can glean from all these posts is that Eucon/Eucontrol firmware will be free and available? Its all very confusing.
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