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Sheldon,
Is there any plan on developing a sort of Digilink Splitter box? I know it hasn't been any issue with using a single system, but for those who always enjoy the extra security of a redundant system, it would be nice. |
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Hi,
As convenient as it would be, such an arrangement wouldn't eliminate all of the possible single points of failure so a true redundant rig using a dedicated split and second preamp + Pro Tools system is always recommended for mission critical applications. Sheldon |
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Maybe that's not the end of the world, but in an age where a single rack space unit can route MADI signal to two separate sets of outputs, it seems there would be a simpler way to record to a back-up system than to bring in an entirely separate FOH rig. |
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Re: Recording to two PT HD systems
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If I recall I saw a thread earlier stating that while the signal on the digital snake from stage to FOH is not madi, it can be converted to optical and back on an RME madi splitter. So my question is can the RME madi splitter be used to split to 2 FOH racks for redundant HD recorders? |
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Re: Recording to two PT HD systems
If you're only using 1-48, the latest VENUE software allows you to do redundant outputs on a second HDx card so that you can record 1-48 on two HD rigs.
Dave
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David Stagl - Mixer | FOH Engineer http://www.staglproductions.com http://www.goingto11.com |
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Re: Recording to two PT HD systems
Ok that is great for 48 inputs.
What if I am using two stage racks and have 96 inputs? |
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Re: Recording to two PT HD systems
I think that you can do that with Madi, but you need RME madirouters and the a couple of SSL Madi to Pro Tools converters (two per PT rig). This, of course works out expensive, but I figure if you are in the market to be hired for 96 track projects, the budget is likely large enough to cover it.
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Re: Recording to two PT HD systems
Note that the VENUE MADI Option Card has two outputs - coax and optical - and both are always active. This means you could run one output to one MADI recorder, and the other output to a second MADI recorder, without needing an additional MADI router/splitter. This assumes that at least one of the recorders is within the 100 meter limit for coax.
Sheldon |
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Re: Recording to two PT HD systems
Well madi is very convenient to work with, but to buy madi cards for FOH rack, madi splitter, and 4 SSL Delta Link... going to be over $18k.
If it is possible to use a slave FOH rack, a couple grand for an RME splitter and a rental on an extra FOH rack is much more cost effective. Has anybody tried it? Also is it possible to use the FOH rack software with just a mouse and keyboard, no control surface, to do routing to the HDX assignable inputs? |
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Re: Recording to two PT HD systems
sorry, i haven't read everything but:
RAID is not backup (and anyway PT can't record to RAID) backup record systems is absolutely a requirement for all live recordings, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. splitting a digital feed to two recorders is not backup, because a glitch somewhere is going to affect both recordings. you need to a do a split in the analogue domain absolutely fine to take the master record from the FOH mixer digital outputs direct to PT. but backup does not need to be Pro Tools. you can use any standard multitrack record thing, then if you need to go to the backup record just take the drives and build a session in PT then give to the client. yes the client may NEED PT sessions for their post workflow, but in 95% of cases the recorder can be anything that makes wav files and you just make a PT session for the client out of these after the gig. |
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