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Old 08-26-2012, 03:58 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to explain what's going on, I hope you manage to resolve it soon.

Could you comment on the 64 bit resolution, did the RTAS version use this as well or is this a new thing?

Someone else has said the plug in upsamples to 96Khz internally if you are working at 44.1Khz is this correct ? Has it always done this even in the TDM versions?

Looking forward to buying my upgrade when you get it back on line!
Got from the old TDM MDW EQ Plug-in Guide (I suppose that "48" stands for 44.1 also)

Features
• High-resolution 96 kHz sample-rate pro-
cessing for audio recorded at 48 and 96
kHz, and 192 kHz sample-rate processing
for 192 kHz audio.
• Wide frequency selection from 10 Hz to
41 kHz on every band
• Separate three- and five-band plug-in ver-
sions
• DSP efficiency (Pro Tools HD only)
• A/B compare feature
• Phase Invert switch
• IsoPeak®—A simple and fast tool to isolate
that frequency you’re looking for
• Available in TDM/RTAS/AS or just RTAS/AS
configurations
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:21 AM
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The MDW works internally at 96KHz even you are running a 44.1 session.
Therefore a 44.1 Khz session eats more resources compared to a session at 96 due to the upsampling, then the downsampling process that occour into a 44.1 session.
So I can only run 3 more instances per chip on HDX compared to TDM with the 5-band at 48k? Is AAX coding less effective or are the HDX chips not really that much more powerful than the ancient TDM chips?
Just curious why this is...


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Old 08-27-2012, 04:07 PM
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So I can only run 3 more instances per chip on HDX compared to TDM with the 5-band at 48k? Is AAX coding less effective or are the HDX chips not really that much more powerful than the ancient TDM chips?
Just curious why this is...
Only George can speak to the specifics of MDW, but I can tell you that the HDX chips, as individuals, have several advantages. They run with higher precision floating point math. They run at a faster clock rate. They have way more available memory. And there are 18 on a board, instead of 9.

The 5x performance number we advertise for HDX is an average of various plug-ins comparing board-to-board, not chip-to-chip. So, on average, you would see an increase of 2.5x chip-to-chip. Some plug-ins are 1 to 1 on the chips. Some are 11 to 1. Depends on the specifics of the algorithm and how well suited it is to to the new DSPs. To the best of my knowledge we don't have any that perform worse. And most perform way better.

Another thing to keep in mind is that some plug-in companies take the increase in performance of these chips as an opportunity to increase precision or add features to the algorithm. We've done this with some of our plug-ins, and I'd expect the same for some plug-in companies.

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Old 08-28-2012, 11:08 AM
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Another thing to keep in mind is that some plug-in companies take the increase in performance of these chips as an opportunity to increase precision or add features to the algorithm. We've done this with some of our plug-ins, and I'd expect the same for some plug-in companies.

Dave
This is the point I always tried to explain when the new HDX came out.
In the end we'll see not that dramatic increment in processing power (instances per chip) but more quality in processing itself, be it EQ, Dynamics or Reverb.
Still worth the upgrade.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:51 AM
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Any more word on the upgrade problems?
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:28 AM
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Default Re: MDW Massenburg EQ for AAX

I would like to know this, too as the upgrade is back online.


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Old 08-29-2012, 08:01 AM
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I just did the upgrade via the avid store. Worked fine but I went from MDWv3.0 TDM/RTAS to v5.
Had to surrender the v3 license.

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Old 08-29-2012, 08:13 AM
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The Avid Store page for MDW EQ v5 has not been updated or changed, because on the last line is still written 'Supports both TDM and RTAS plug-formats'. This error was confirmed by Avid, but nothing has changed since 7 days. How hard can it be to delete one line of text on a webpage?

So actually Avid is still misleading potential customers with 100% false compatibility information about MDW EQ v5...
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:17 AM
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This is the point I always tried to explain when the new HDX came out.
In the end we'll see not that dramatic increment in processing power (instances per chip) but more quality in processing itself, be it EQ, Dynamics or Reverb.
Still worth the upgrade.
What does more quality mean? The readme says 48bit processing just like under v3 (tdm/rtas). Isn't it the exact same thing simply ported to AAX?
Or is there something I haven't seen yet?
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: MDW Massenburg EQ for AAX

I just want to update everyone that now the update process works...
When I clicked again on "download" on the email receipt of the purchase now it recognize the mdw 3.0 license present in my ilok and let you go through the download and installation process.

Thanks Avid for fixing this.
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