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Old 08-12-2009, 03:15 PM
Norad155 Norad155 is offline
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Default Pulling Apart Crossfades

Hey everyone...

this is what's making me angry today

I make an edit... a simple crossfade like so:
http://ptdudes.com/wp-content/upload.../08/xfade1.png

(I always crossfade sine waves in my edit sessions!)

I realize I want to pull the second region down to a track... for whatever reason... let's say I want to put a crazy eq on it... so I control-drag it down to the track below. The result is this:
http://ptdudes.com/wp-content/upload.../08/xfade2.png

why oh why isn't the result of above action this:
http://ptdudes.com/wp-content/upload.../08/xfade3.png

is there a pref someplace that I can't find?... or at least am I'm not the only one that hates this... is there an advantage to this behavior that is not obvious to me?

Thanks all!
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: Pulling Apart Crossfades

agreed... this would save sooooo much time in editing. Seems obvious to me... Digi? I haven't found a preference for it, but maybe it's there?
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: Pulling Apart Crossfades

+1

completely logical and long over due.

This would be a massive enhancement to my life
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: Pulling Apart Crossfades

Not to jack this thread, but is it possible to do the exact opposite of this? (When you've got two clips on separate tracks with overlapping fades like the last photo, then drag one on top of the other and have it become a crossfade instead of just editing on top of the other?)

Reason being I tend to put room tone on a separate track with crossfades when I'm checkerboarding dialog, but then if I drag the room tone into the same track as the dialog track I was fading out of, it becomes an edit and I need to redo it. Granted I'm still a student and maybe that's just bad practice???

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Old 08-12-2009, 09:23 PM
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: Pulling Apart Crossfades

It´s been mentioned often and actually since they invented "preserve fades when editing" years ago. Unfortunately it is not getting fixed or seems like it.

I usually turn "preserve fades" off because it simply doesn´t do what it claims to. This feature simply "invents" new fades but never preserves the ones I made.

I wish they would fix this some day.

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Old 08-12-2009, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Pulling Apart Crossfades

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Not to jack this thread, but is it possible to do the exact opposite of this? (When you've got two clips on separate tracks with overlapping fades like the last photo, then drag one on top of the other and have it become a crossfade instead of just editing on top of the other?)

Reason being I tend to put room tone on a separate track with crossfades when I'm checkerboarding dialog, but then if I drag the room tone into the same track as the dialog track I was fading out of, it becomes an edit and I need to redo it. Granted I'm still a student and maybe that's just bad practice???

Thanks,
It´s not your bad practice, it´s simply because the "preserve fades" option doesn´t work.

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Old 08-13-2009, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: Pulling Apart Crossfades

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Not to jack this thread, but is it possible to do the exact opposite of this? (When you've got two clips on separate tracks with overlapping fades like the last photo, then drag one on top of the other and have it become a crossfade instead of just editing on top of the other?)

Reason being I tend to put room tone on a separate track with crossfades when I'm checkerboarding dialog, but then if I drag the room tone into the same track as the dialog track I was fading out of, it becomes an edit and I need to redo it. Granted I'm still a student and maybe that's just bad practice???

Thanks,
yeah that would be excellent as well....

Add this bug to it and you have a perfect sh#t storm of editing annoyance!

thanks for venting with me everyone!
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Old 08-13-2009, 04:12 AM
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Default Re: Pulling Apart Crossfades

Yes, its quite anoying.

I usually do the following to preserve the edits:

1: ctrl+opt+drag both regions to the other track (copies in sync)
2: click in the middle off the first region (second track), then press ctrl+opt+tab to select the first region from regionstart to fade-start. Press delete.
3: repeat step 2 on the second region (first track)

Now you have the overlapping fades. It coild be much easier, but at least it works.
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:17 AM
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