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Old 06-06-2005, 02:43 AM
John Link John Link is offline
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Default Micing singer with a large range

Yesterday I had a gig with a singer with a three-octave range, from F below middle C to F above high C. She used most of her range throughout the gig. I had her wear a Sennheiser wireless lav mic on her necklace which was right around her neck, not hanging down. Even when singing quietly at the top of her range there seemed to be a strong tendency to distort (I monitored the warning light on the transmitter). It was difficult to set a sensitivity level on the transmitter that would avoid distortion while keeping the level high enough for her middle and lowest notes.

Any suggestions about how to solve this problem? Must I insert a compressor between the mic and the transmitter? Is there such a thing small enough for a singer to wear in addition to the transmitter? Are there any transmitters with built-in compressors? Is there a better place to attach the mic? I attached it to her necklace because her shirt was low enough in the middle that it seemed to put the mic too far from her mouth.

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Old 06-06-2005, 05:37 AM
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Default Re: Micing singer with a large range

What type of transmitter/reciver are you using?

i only have shure UC series wireless mics at work and this is how i get around it. inside the transmitter there are 3 little dials; group, channel and gain. by winding the gain right down you should be able to avoid having the reciver clip. failing this, get her to use a hand held mic. much bigger capsule, much less chance of distorting it.


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Old 06-06-2005, 07:49 AM
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Default Re: Micing singer with a large range

The transmitter and receiver are made by Sennheiser. I think it was only the transmitter, and not the receiver, that was clipping. I turned down the gain on the transmitter all the way, and adjusted the sensitivity on the transmitter so that she wouldn't clip at the transmitter. I guess that's what I have to do, and then add compression later in the signal path. I'd like to avoid using a hand-held, because it doesn't fit in with the aesthetic of the group.

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Old 06-07-2005, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: Micing singer with a large range

I am right now using a sennheiser lavalier mics that sound pretty good. Today was the first day of the tour and as I do FOH mixing I don't know exactly what the model is... I just said to the equipment guys that the mics sound great and they told me it is a dynamic model with larger capsule. Anyways the freq. range was exellent for this type of mic and I had plenty of headroom and no feedback problems first time with lav. I'll check the model tomorrow if you like.
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Old 06-08-2005, 07:51 AM
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Default Re: Micing singer with a large range

digidesigner, I would appreciate knowing which model you're using and anything else you might add, like where the mic was worn.

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Old 06-08-2005, 04:32 PM
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ok I checked and turns out it was nothing fancy - sennheiser ME3 - http://www.proaudio.com/product_info...oducts_id=2129 and it clarely states that it is a condenser mic. so the guys don't know... anyway it is from a sennheiser evolution series that is very inexpensive but still some mics off that serie are pretty damn good. I love the e602 and e604 drum mics for example. So if you can try it out maybe you like it!
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Old 06-08-2005, 04:42 PM
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I am sorry I just read again your first post and you don't need a headset mic but a tiny lavalier! All my friends who do musicals use DPA mics for that and they use the ones that are skin-colored so the mics can be taped to artists cheek or forehead. also these mics cost a litte more... I would try to get her to wear a headset.
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Old 01-29-2006, 08:34 AM
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Heres a thought... there are vocalists that actually project a very high spm that can distort the diaphram of the mic... could be as simple as positioning.
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