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Re: Pro Tools 2019 !
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Followed by the wish to open up te 32 I/O limit of ProTools Ultimate software without HDX/HD Native. I guess that won't happen any soon, since it makes totally sense a €2299,- piece of Software with €428,- annual support plan costs for that software should have limits. Limits that a piece of software costing $199,- from the App Store, lifetime updates for free, doesn't have. Too bad Pro Tools works like no other DAW works. Even worse that AVID knows that.
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Put Engineering and Software development aside, struggles to fit 384 voices into 256 slots means something has to share, queue or predict (scan). Hmmm!
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There was a time (about 15 years ago) when Phillip Morris (the makers of Marlboro cigarettes) found they were getting beaten out by new independent boutique brands. They first tried to raise their price to match but after an analysis of loyalty and brand elasticity they realized they could drop the price of Marlboro and get their share back and then some. They did and it worked.
I do wonder if Avid ever did the research to see if a large drop in HDX price would be made back by increased demand. Of course I don't know what the costs are. Unless there is a technical reason I see no reason why not to open up to more voices without HDx. HDx with an interface is a great digital mixer in it's own right. C
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HDX is vintage technology outperformed by 2019 computers big time. It definitely is a great digital mixing system but it should have been made to date like all technology to prevent what happens now: its 2011 tech limit is keeping back (speedy) development of the Pro Tools software that’s still the industry standard. Of course all the post production houses and bigger studios that love to use pro tools are still using HDX. Dolby Atmos on Pro Tools Ultimate without AVID HD hardware, and so 32 I/O , good luck... This is what the AVID strategy of making such a closed pro system in terms of channel and voice counts -still relying on 2011 hardware technology- has led to. Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk
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It really depends on what "outperformed" means. There are applications where it still is the best solution according to people I know who would love to go native and who don't need HDX for more i/o or voices. Myself, I went native back in TDM daze and never looked back. HDX was never simply a TDM replacement which confused lots of people.
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No one was ready with AAX-DSP, Waves and many others never decided to develop aax-dsp plugins and up until today still only a few third party companies make AAX-DSP. When I track with an Apollo I sort of imagine what a HDX system with a great feature set of almost latency free dsp based plugins could have been. Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk
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HDX- days are numbered. Its coming.
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Sonnox, Metric Halo and, of course, Avid were on HDX right out of the door. The major developer who didn't support it was Waves.
You are comparing apple to oranges because there weren't nearly as many Pro Tools plug-in developers back then. People selling today's $50-$100 plug-ins can't be expected to pay for DSP coding.
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My best investment in music gear was to skip HDX after many years with TDM and buy a Native system. It saved me a lot of money - and if nothing happens soon I will save on my subscription next time.
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Still wondering what Eddy meant with the subscription discount of 30% in the S6 forum. At least they could do that after releasing no update for such a long time and also admitting that they are in technical crisis because of stone age hardware cards. Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk
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