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Old 01-22-2011, 10:51 PM
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Default LLM I've tested 3 differents system and still

About LLM is a little longer I try make it shorter
PT 9.0.1 – 9.0.
003 Rack+

Channels :
Analog I/O
1. LLM works fine
2. If select LLM loose the audio (you can rec but stop monitoring )when deselect LLM audio is back
3. When select LLM, there is audio, but does not work on latency
4-8 the same as 3
ADAT I/O 1-8 LLM not working(audio is present )


8.0- 8.0.3- 8.0.4 003 Rack+ Analog.
Channels :Analog I/O
1. If select LLM works fine
2. Select LLM does not work but you have audio( difference from 9.0-9.0.1)
3-8 LLM does not work but you have audio.
ADAT I/O 1-8 Not LLM but audio is present


MBOX 2 PRO
Channels i/O

1-2 LLM works fine
3-6 LLM doesn't work (there is audio always)

So it happen whith computers system that always worked before.
Details :
1-
GA-X58A-UD3R
I7 950
Asus En 7200GS Video card
8 GB Mushkin (3x2)
Win 7 64 bits PT 9.0.1
DIGI 003+Factory
ADA 8000

2- ASUS P5B
Q 6600
3GB ram
Firewire Card SIIG
PT 9.0.1
Win 7 64 Bits
DIGI 003+Factory

3-
HP NW 9440
MBOX 2 PRO
3GB Ram

WIN 7/ 64 8.0.4/// PT 9
Laptop HP NW 9440 recommended and supported by Avid(Digidesign).
All of this was done whithout any additional plugins only PT soft.
Avid guys says: This is a known issue and is in the queue for a fix.
"The problem is that only Audio tracks are working with LLM - Instrument and Aux tracks do not.”

Also in Audio tracks .

“ We've got this logged for a fix. I also posted in the other thread about this issue.”
Avid Audio Tech Support.
One last thing Latency is major on Adat I/O than analog, this new too in my system as long I can remember.
Someone else?




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Old 01-23-2011, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: LLM I've tested 3 differents system and still

To people whith more experience, a question thanks for an answer.
What really does LLM?,(besides Bypass plugins insert) reduce manually the buffer? whithout change performance or do something different?
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: LLM I've tested 3 differents system and still

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What really does LLM?
It's supposed to route audio from the analog inputs through a built-in hardware mixer and back out the analog outputs. In LLM, audio from the inputs never actually goes through Pro Tools. It goes into it to be recorded, and at the same time it goes right back out through the built-in mixer in the interface. That's how it achieves such low latency, and it's why plugins and sends on the tracks being recorded don't work - the audio is not actually going through them. The levels of the hardware mixer are controlled by the faders in Pro Tools. I don't know whether or not it's supposed to work with digital inputs and outputs.

With the computers you listed, there should be no need to use LLM. Set your hardware buffer to the lowest available setting. You won't notice any latency on analog inputs for sure. Don't know about the digital ones.
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Old 01-24-2011, 02:18 PM
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Really Thanks.
I realized that LLM it seems only for 1-2 analog outputs, what I dont understand is why when I set 1 and 2 analog ouputs (independent)one of the other and apply LLM the out 2 stop the audio but meters read on the screen then LLM off audio is back, is that right? should monitoring 1-2 always as a stereo tracks, not 1- 2 monos independents
I can work even in 64 buffer quite well
Am I loosing some or is a bug
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Default Re: LLM I've tested 3 differents system and still

The problem with the audio stopping is the bug that they're working on. The workaround is to not use LLM. It doesn't really help anyway unless your computer is so old that you can't use a low hardware buffer setting. Not one person in 1000 can hear the difference, and without LLM you get to use plug-ins and reverb during tracking.
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Old 01-24-2011, 02:56 PM
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So is a real bug!!!
and is right then that LLM works only for analog outs 1-2 ???
HOPE THE FIX WORKS FOR WIN AND MAC
I haven't see more people in WIN as far i remember.
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