new time shift plugin by digidesign

[peter99]

just used the new time shift plugin by digidesign for the first time

I had to "shift" a whole 115bpm session up to 125bpm and what I got after shifting the the tempo up to 125 was just crazy! at the first 10 bars of the song everything was ok but then it started to get weird - some of the tracks got faster than others...

I tried the same thing with a smaller tempo change (another song) from 76 to 78 - the same thing happened but this time only one track (shaker) was slowly getting out of time in the middle of the song

very strange..! I did this with pitch`n time a lot and never had problems

anyone elso having problems with the new plugin?

[25ghosts]

I was testing all the pitch plugs out there a few months ago. Waves Timeshifter and Pitch N Time are the best IMO - I have em both cuz certain things are done better with the waves plug and other things with the serato.

Digidesign's time shift had some weird side fx like sluggish timing after applying etc... So I didnt get that one. So my answer would have to be YES to what you asked

[peter99]

anyone else?

[Tone]

I've found X-form the best on mixes or Melodyne for single instruments. P&T was pretty good but it's been beaten in recent months.

[Dylan Freud]

X-Form saved my *ss a couple of weeks ago in a big way. I've used P&T and Speed with good results but X-Form seems to have them both beaten IMHO.

[bad jitter]

Reposting myself from last October:

I tested all I have with mono dialog and modest time change. Here's my subjective results:

1. Digi X-form
-almost as good as the original

2. Digi TCE
-same basic quality than X-form. Not a very big difference.

3. Serato Pitch' n' Time
-much worse that previous. Distant, thin and phasey.

4. Speed
-Even thinner than Pitch'n'Time. Bad and compeletely unnatural.

5. Waves SoundShifter
-Ouch. This makes mono dialogue sound like there's several voices. Nice special effect maybe?

That said, on some other (stereo this time) material, X-form didn't sound good at all!

[smlworld]

Reposting myself from last October:

I tested all I have with mono dialog and modest time change. Here's my subjective results:

1. Digi X-form
-almost as good as the original

2. Digi TCE
-same basic quality than X-form. Not a very big difference.

3. Serato Pitch' n' Time
-much worse that previous. Distant, thin and phasey.

All of the work i do with PNT involves Music. But for a 'modest time change' it's almost always worked really well. I wonder what your settings were.? From what I have found different arrangements, types of music work better than others. I also use Speed if PNT isn't satisfactory. And that niether Speed Nor PNT worked better than Digi TCE - that seems very odd to me. (Maybe TCE has gotten a LOT better, I haven't used it in a few years)

4. Speed
-Even thinner than Pitch'n'Time. Bad and compeletely unnatural.

5. Waves SoundShifter
-Ouch. This makes mono dialogue sound like there's several voices. Nice special effect maybe?

That said, on some other (stereo this time) material, X-form didn't sound good at all!

[Steve MacMillan]

I've been playing with X-Form. I think it does a really great job of stretching and compressing stereo music, although it sure is slow.

I have a spike sample which is a quick positive excursion about 20 samples long. I put one on every beat at 120bpm, consolidated the audio and time compressed to 130bpm in mono mode. No matter what window setting I try, X-form will severly attenuate a spike every so often in some kind of pattern depending on the window length. Waves SoundShifter doesn't do this. Is this a limitation of X-Form?

STeve

[Pete Gates]

Reposting myself from last October:

I tested all I have with mono dialog and modest time change. Here's my subjective results:

...

3. Serato Pitch' n' Time
-much worse that previous. Distant, thin and phasey.

...

That said, on some other (stereo this time) material, X-form didn't sound good at all!

I used to have Serato on my Fairlight QDC and it was easily the best dialogue timestretch I've ever used. Moved over to ProTools and the otherwise more capable version of Serato was awful at dialogue which puzzled me. I and several other people queried Serato about this and they have now released Pitch 'n Time 2.4 which has the 2 algorithms as before plus one optimised for voice. Nice to see some customer feedback getting a result. Haven't had a chance to seriously put it through it's paces but my fingers are crossed!

Pete

[ronwasserman]

Another vote for Pitch 'n Time