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Old 02-27-2008, 01:06 PM
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The only things that can be used as user softkeys are the things that already exist under the other softkeys. So if it's buried in there somewhere, you can use it as a user softkey.
I realise that the User prefs are only additive from the parameters available in the Soft Key Section, I'm more interested in the mechanics of why the dedicated swithes cannot be added to the User prefs.
Sorry I should have been clearer in my original post.

Btw, not using a D-Command but a 16-fader Icon.

Cheers,

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Old 02-27-2008, 01:59 PM
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The only things that can be used as user softkeys are the things that already exist under the other softkeys. So if it's buried in there somewhere, you can use it as a user softkey.
I realise that the User prefs are only additive from the parameters available in the Soft Key Section, I'm more interested in the mechanics of why the dedicated swithes cannot be added to the User prefs.
Sorry I should have been clearer in my original post.

Btw, not using a D-Command but a 16-fader Icon.

Cheers,

Tom
Gotcha - sorry for the confusion.
I guess there may not be much demand for such a thing. Speaking only personally and specifically about the switch you mention, I don't see the need for Auto Suspend to be in the soft key section when it's already so conveniently located as a dedicated button.

I do understand the need to group things together to consolidate a personal workflow choice. I've got a whole page of user soft keys literally duplicating the fixed preview/capture page (which has 5 members) but with the single addition of a "Write to All" button so the whole kit functions together.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:12 PM
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I do understand the need to group things together to consolidate a personal workflow choice.
Cheers for that and yeah, that's all it's trying to achieve.
I have one particular mix workflow where 99% of what I need quick access to, can be laid across one 6-key page of the User section. Be nice to add that 1%.

Picky picky picky.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:03 PM
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Hi all,

Wondering if there is a way to flip all of the encoders to faders on a particular track instead of only being able to control 1 parameter at a time (i.e. if I have a 7-band EQ and I want to manipulate the gain on all 7 bands using the faders instead of the encoders). Does this functionality exists on the D control?

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Old 03-15-2008, 06:05 AM
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Yes, Plug In Custom Fader Mode will do what you want. You can Map any control from an Encoder down to the faders.
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Old 03-18-2008, 01:44 PM
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Flip to encoders ... yes ... makes me think of one I recently kinda rediscovered by accident and had completely forgotten about.

You can assign I/O .... plugins ... send etc using the faders if you want to ... and quite frankly ... it didn't feel all that bad doing it and to some extend even had some advantages.

- In any assign mode : simply flip the row you're assigning something to to the faders.

- The select switch confirms your choice and the mute switch allows you to go back through the hyrarchy


example 1 : assign bus 67 as an output :

- press the output switch on the global channel strip to go into output assign mode.
- flip the bottom row of encoders to the faders
- press the mute switch and move the fader all the way up to see 'bus' and press select to confirm that.
- move the fader up untill you reach bus 67 and press select

Done ... and seriously ... trying to type and explanation for that is harder then actually doing it.

Play around with it for a couple of minutyes and give it a chance .. it's pretty cool imho.

One particular advantage I find is when reaching up to the top 3 rows of encoders for example ... especially in long lists and turning the knob ... your hand tends to get in the way of the LED view. Doing the fader thingy gives a better overview ... especially when doing multiple channels , often all different thing.


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Old 04-09-2008, 10:20 PM
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Flip to encoders ... yes ... makes me think of one I recently kinda rediscovered by accident and had completely forgotten about.

You can assign I/O .... plugins ... send etc using the faders if you want to ... and quite frankly ... it didn't feel all that bad doing it and to some extend even had some advantages.

- In any assign mode : simply flip the row you're assigning something to to the faders.

- The select switch confirms your choice and the mute switch allows you to go back through the hyrarchy


example 1 : assign bus 67 as an output :

- press the output switch on the global channel strip to go into output assign mode.
- flip the bottom row of encoders to the faders
- press the mute switch and move the fader all the way up to see 'bus' and press select to confirm that.
- move the fader up untill you reach bus 67 and press select

Done ... and seriously ... trying to type and explanation for that is harder then actually doing it.

Play around with it for a couple of minutyes and give it a chance .. it's pretty cool imho.

One particular advantage I find is when reaching up to the top 3 rows of encoders for example ... especially in long lists and turning the knob ... your hand tends to get in the way of the LED view. Doing the fader thingy gives a better overview ... especially when doing multiple channels , often all different thing.


Chris
That is seriously cool! Far more user friendly than working solely off the encoders; very small learning curve.

Nice one Chris.
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Old 08-01-2008, 02:34 PM
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Check this thread out and bookmark following links ... seriously .... bookmark them !!!

http://duc.digidesign.com/showthread.php?t=225147

http://brentheber.com/
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:12 AM
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I got this one from Jean-Gab Grandouiller, one of our European Super Icon Master Jedi's :

How to get the most out of Custom Faders Power User Tip :

This will make the most sense if you have a setup where your faders are on one side of the main unit, like in my case I have 32 faders left of the main unit and none on the right side of the main unit. That said ... it will work regardless ... even on a split setup if you wanted it to for some odd reason ....

Anyhow : there are numerous ways to set this up but I've found this way to be the easiest :

Set your fader packs in the peripherals as if it was a split setup : Fader / Main / Fader. Even though your physical setup may be Fader / Fader / Main.

Next, in the soft keys prefs :

- set the Left CF bank justification to RIGHT
- set the Right CF bank justification to Center LEFT

next :
make sure that :
- Set LCF Group to 16
- Set RCF Type to 8

Now .... create some VCA Masters and assign some mix groups / member tracks to them

On the main unit 'open' up your Right Custom fader group by pressing the Masters switch on the right hand side of the main unit and then choosing VCA's by pressing 6 in the Bank select section. That should open up your VCA masters in you Right CF section

Next, activate the Left CF section by pressing the Groups switch on the Left CF switches on the main unit.

From this point on you can spill any VCA group directly onto your faders whitout having to ever fold them back up to access another one.

If you set it up the way I described you should have your VCA masters fixed to the second bank of 8 while you can spill any group into the 16 faders closest to your main unit. I set the LCF to justify right so it leaves open empty faders if the group is smaller then 16 which makes it VERY convenient to work with.

Seriously ... It's maybe not something you want to consider getting into from day one but once you get into the power of Custom Faders this will bring you that extra edge that makes you go WOW .... WICKED !!!!!!

And the way I set it up I can still use the far left bank of 8 for normal fader use.

It also opens up the use of 2 custom fader groups on the same end of the Main unit and the limit is really what you imagine doing with it. You can apply the above stuff to anything CF's can do really.


Thanks Jean Gab for this Tip.


Enjoy .......
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:26 PM
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Hi all,

I just posted a video some of you may be interested in, its a basic explanation of the main ways of using Custom Faders on an Icon.
www.brentheber.com
My last video went into detail on custom fader plug in mapping so that isnt covered in the most recent video.
Hope you find this useful!
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