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Re: Let's clear the air, folks...
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I'm just saying, studios aren't making as much money anymore. Everyone and there mama is an engineer or hotshot producer. Most of us have had to lower prices and make special package deals to try to keep getting new clients in the door. And here Avid goes making two significant price increases in a 12 month span. Just doesn't seem beneficial to your customer satisfaction index or approval rating. With the iLok in place now, you guys are gonna make your money. You can't just give a copy of Pro Tools 7.4 or 8 to your homeboy with an Mbox anymore. If he want's the newer version he has to buy it. So I don't see the need for such drastic price increases for something you can sell an infinite amount of. I'm not saying sell it dirt cheap. But for $199 at maximum, I'd gladly take a copy of 10 off of your hands. Throw in Disk Cache with native and I'd gladly give you the $299 you're asking, possibly even $349.
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Re: Let's clear the air, folks...
Maybe why every one is really mad is that at the lowest HD level, the HD Native card at $3495 costs as much as a new 8 Core Mac Pro which in my opinion costs more to manufacture. Just look at the parts costs alone not to mention all the productivity software that comes with a new Mac, which I am sure also cost billions to develop. When you throw in another $399 for software like Studio One which is fast and nimble and 64bit and any of the under $1K interfaces, even Avid's own MBox Pro . . . you still come out ahead.
We are the biggest ProTools facility in our market. Yes we drank the cool aid and are moving on to PT10. But I want Avid management to know, the only reason for us upgrading is because as I really liked what I saw in PT10. My partners did not see any worth while improvement and did not want to do it. Our editors and mixers saw the launch and did not want it. Our Fortune 500 clients will not pay one cent more for it, and being in extreme cost cutting mode want to pay us even less. Avid still has good people working for them and it pains me how top management had to make some tough decisions to survive. But I want Avid to know that the way they are pricing their products, it would be a hard pill to swallow for even "top of the food chain" facilities like ours. Avid management, you guys make a great product that holds a unique position in the industry. The PT9 launch and now MC6 has shown you DO know how to make your customers happy. Please keep that in mind and know that your pricing strategy with the current PT10 roll out and killing of legacy hardware support may one day even alienate your biggest fans. |
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As to the rest - suffice it to say that while we are all free to voice our opinions about any subject matter... attempting to turn a company on it's ear by filling it's community board with vitriol to the tune of your disgruntlement about a product update you're not required to buy, likely haven't even tried, and probably do not need - is silliness. Do you need it? Then it's not expensive. If you don't need it - then its expense is not your real issue here. |
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Such as, imagine a lottery with a billion tickets. Only one will win. You can pick up each and every ticket and say this ticket is not a winner, this ticket is not a winner, this ticket is not a winner, so on and so forth. And for each ticket you have loads of statistical evidence that you are right.... however you are wrong, and one of those tickets is in fact a winner. But anyway, I promised DTS I would try and keep my posts out of the weeds, so if you would like to discuss this further please email me, or we can take it to the General Section. You're talkin' to one I'm currently in the process of writing a book on political, social, and general philosophy.
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In refrence to Ant B; So then no one should ever express their honest opinion about anything right? And corporations should just do whatever they want because the people that they are attempting to sell a product to have absolutely no say in the process whatsoever. Yah, great point.
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1) who wrote the spec for the coders 2) who payed all the coders 3) who ever makes perfect anything 4) what is the next product 5) who is going to code the next one...... (starts the day the first one is released..... maybe even earlier) facilities, HR, sales, and a ton of others......... The price is set by the company. Success is in the marketplaces hands.......
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Then, how can you say reality is not truth? I mean, what's real is true. You can't say that the real physical computer monitor I am staring at is false. I can see and touch it. It's there. It's true. Benoni is absolutely correct! Quote:
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Re: Let's clear the air, folks...
Hi everyone,
We are going to close this thread. It has been part of a very healthy discussion for the better part of 2 weeks now but we feel it has come to a point that things are going round in circles. We do understand and appreciate all opinions out there and realize that closing this thread will not make everybody equally happy. We sincerely apologize for that but at the same time have to ask each and everyone of you to respect this opinion. We have come to a point where we want the focus on these forums to go back to supporting people rather then have it be dominated by political and controversial threads and subjects. Thank you for your understanding and helping us. For any questions regarding this decision please read and make sure you understand the forum terms of use which can be found here : http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=169558 Thank you |
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