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Old 12-04-2010, 07:18 AM
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Default Re: PT 9 Crashes All The Time When Working with VI's

I'm running latest version of OS, latest of PT, on a couple different computers. Systems are more solid than ever under PT9. Using NI plugs, too. Latest versions. This is not a global problem.
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Old 12-04-2010, 08:59 AM
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I'm running latest version of OS, latest of PT, on a couple different computers. Systems are more solid than ever under PT9. Using NI plugs, too. Latest versions. This is not a global problem.

Good to know.

Running PT9 natively, I get random RTAS stoppages with CPU(RTAS) never exceeding 30% running 1 instance each of Omnisphere, Stylus and Steven Slates Kompack 3 and a few Xpands...

It must be running Kompakt 3 that's the problem, right? I don't think Steven Slate is on Kompakt 4 so I'd have to pay for the upgrade to 4, right?

Man, I'd really rather not, I'm too cheap, lol... but I do love playing the Slate stuff via my V-Drums in PT 9 with the lower latency - that part is friggin awesome.
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Old 12-04-2010, 10:33 AM
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Just for kicks... have you tried reverting back to a qualified version of OSX?
Yeah but it is such a headache. I also have done that in the past only to find it didn't fix the problem. I used to rebuild my computer on every big PT release.
Excited about the new features only to be let down. Thinking back the last time PT was unstoppable was when it worked in os9.

You just get jaded after a while.
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Old 12-04-2010, 10:38 AM
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The problem is NOT 3rd party plugs.
The problem is 3rd party plugs in PTools.
They sure as hell work fine in other DAWS and plenty of pros use those plugs in other DAWS day in, day out.
The problem is RTAS and Avids refusal ...........apart from lip service.......to do anything about it.

Let's wait a few more years and see if they get it together...........make it 3 years.........no 4 would be better. Ok then, let's all come back in four years and everything should be fine.
In the meantime just.........do something else
Why do we stick with AVID?
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Old 12-04-2010, 10:51 AM
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Use NI Service Center to update your Player. it will upgrade it to v4 I believe. Or you can download the v4 player for free on the NI website. That will take care of the issue and the browser is better.


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Good to know.

Running PT9 natively, I get random RTAS stoppages with CPU(RTAS) never exceeding 30% running 1 instance each of Omnisphere, Stylus and Steven Slates Kompack 3 and a few Xpands...

It must be running Kompakt 3 that's the problem, right? I don't think Steven Slate is on Kompakt 4 so I'd have to pay for the upgrade to 4, right?

Man, I'd really rather not, I'm too cheap, lol... but I do love playing the Slate stuff via my V-Drums in PT 9 with the lower latency - that part is friggin awesome.
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:26 AM
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Running PT9 natively, I get random RTAS stoppages with CPU(RTAS) never exceeding 30% running 1 instance each of Omnisphere, Stylus and Steven Slates Kompack 3 and a few Xpands...
That sounds like spiking. Your CPU could be jumping to 100% so quickly that you don't notice it via the activity monitor. Typically, in my experience anyway, it's always one particular plugin and, typically, there's an update for it.

This is the case for a couple of Slate's plugs. FG-X was a terrible spiker at one point until they released an update which stabilized it entirely.

And you mentioned Kontakt 3. That can be a spiker, too, especially if it's older than version 3.5. I'd STRONGLY suggest jumping up to K4 with PT9. Even PT8.
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:49 AM
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I've had the same problem regardless of PT or OS version. I decided to give up on PT running VI's and bought another Mac Pro. Now I have 3 total. The PT computer and two slaves that run VI's. One with lightpipe and the other with VE Pro. So far it works perfectly.

Let's face it PT is at the bottom of the heap for running VI's. End of story. Avid simply doesn't care about composers and considering their biggest accounts are post production, I don't really blame them.
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Old 12-04-2010, 08:19 PM
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I've had the same problem regardless of PT or OS version.
Not me.

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Let's face it PT is at the bottom of the heap for running VI's. End of story.
No one needs to "face it." Your story isn't everyone's.

It's one thing to report that you're personally having no luck with PT, but it's another thing entirely to assume that your experience is a universal reality.
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Not me.





It's one thing to report that you're personally having no luck with PT, but it's another thing entirely to assume that your experience is a universal reality.
Exactly We all use different combinations of plug ins and use PT a little different. You are probably a casual user. I use and push Pro Tools to the limit. So if there is a problem I am usually the one to find it.

As I said earlier ask yourself why do none of the Software Companies show off their plug ins using The Industry Standard Pro Tools at the NAMM show. It is all Logic and Ableton even the companies that M-Audio distributes uses Ableton to demo them and not Pro Tools
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Good to know.

Running PT9 natively, I get random RTAS stoppages with CPU(RTAS) never exceeding 30% running 1 instance each of Omnisphere, Stylus and Steven Slates Kompack 3 and a few Xpands...

It must be running Kompakt 3 that's the problem, right? I don't think Steven Slate is on Kompakt 4 so I'd have to pay for the upgrade to 4, right?

Man, I'd really rather not, I'm too cheap, lol... but I do love playing the Slate stuff via my V-Drums in PT 9 with the lower latency - that part is friggin awesome.
I think you mean Kontakt 4? (you said Kompakt)
If so then I can report that S Slate works just fine in Kontakt 4.
At least it does when VEPro is the host or Bidule.
Not sure about PT.
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