Avid YOU Are Almost Out Of Time

[Mr.O]

Originally Posted by DJ Hellfire

I don't think you can compare a physical car to a software license. Selling a car would be more comparable to selling the HD hardware, but not comparable to selling the actual license to run the hardware.

If you don´t see the damage, try to sell Avid hardware without software - you rarely will find a buyer, because this one cannot buy Protools HD software without hardware
So Avid wants us to force to stay on ProTools - and seeing, what they have
done the last years, means, this will be incredible expensive


Mr.O

[CygnusX-1Bk2]

HD software as a stand alone will be available next year (allegedly anyway) for $999. Therefore one will be able to sell their hardware and Avid will charge the buyer an additional granny for the software.

This is a far cry from the $200 I paid for PT HD7 and $250 for HD8.

[treason]

Originally Posted by Mr.O

If you don´t see the damage, try to sell Avid hardware without software - you rarely will find a buyer, because this one cannot buy Protools HD software without hardware
So Avid wants us to force to stay on ProTools - and seeing, what they have
done the last years, means, this will be incredible expensive


Mr.O

Agreed Mr. O. Avid has purposefully made what HD is confusing, even to the point of Avid's moving any discussion thread of HD Upgrade Consequences OUT of this forum.

HD used to be SW+PCIe Card+Avid IO. Now? Who knows?

[Skytouch]

Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson

What software could you ever transfer the ownership of outside of audio?

I can understand this for a standalone software product, but HD software does not currently exist as a product. Its only function is as one component of a Pro Tools HW+SW system. So the forced inclusion of a new support-license "product" to an upgraded perpetual license impairs the transferability of the entire system it is part of. Makes no sense.

Sky

[Barry Johns]

Enough of this crap who owns the software or right to use it! It's all semantics at this point. If you can sell it, you own it.

[Ghost In The Attic]

Originally Posted by knothardly

don't ya just love threads? lol

They can be very frustrating.

For example: I point out to another poster that it wouldn't be like car insurance, but actually like selling a car (IN THE CONTEXT OF THEIR POST). Then people quote my reply (OUT OF CONTEXT) and discuss that, as if I made the original statement.

I know, it's the Internet.

[Ghost In The Attic]

For everyone whom says you DON'T OWN Pro Tools software.

Please see this link:https://www.avid.com/US/products/pro-tools-software

Avid should not be advertising that you do/can OWN Pro Tools, if in fact you don't/can't.

But, they are advertising that you can own it for $599.

[Emcha_audio]

Originally Posted by Barry Johns

Enough of this crap who owns the software or right to use it! It's all semantics at this point. If you can sell it, you own it.

What you actually are selling is your license, IE your right to use the software, not the software itself. It may be semantic, but it has actually a very deep meaning in the perception of entitlement.

[Ghost In The Attic]

Originally Posted by Barry Johns

If you can sell it, you own it.

Agreed.

Plus, if you own it, you can sell it.

But, Avid is advertising that you can own it (right now), then after you've purchased it, the fine print says you don't own it.

[Ghost In The Attic]

PT 12.4 is out and still the Core Audio Drivers are not updated for the HD owners paying 3 times as much.

Avid?