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Old 10-22-2023, 09:29 AM
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Default stupid question re: melodyne ARA

So the old melodyne seemed to always detect the source material properly, and apply the appropriate pitch correction algorithm (ie, melodic vs one of the polyphone ones).

However, the ARA version seems to be getting it wrong more. Specifically, detecting melodic material as polyphonic. When I highlight all the blobs and try to change the algo to melodic, though, all the options are grayed out. I can change the default algo easily, but I can't seem to change it once the material is detected.

What am I doing wrong?
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Old 10-22-2023, 10:08 AM
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So the old melodyne seemed to always detect the source material properly, and apply the appropriate pitch correction algorithm (ie, melodic vs one of the polyphone ones).

However, the ARA version seems to be getting it wrong more. Specifically, detecting melodic material as polyphonic. When I highlight all the blobs and try to change the algo to melodic, though, all the options are grayed out. I can change the default algo easily, but I can't seem to change it once the material is detected.

What am I doing wrong?
Hi there!

Can you give more info on the audio clip you’re trying to edit on melodyne? Is it a single audio track with full elements? Or an audio track with just a single element? Let’s just an instrument or just a vocal track?
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Old 10-22-2023, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: stupid question re: melodyne ARA

ARA is great in theory, but sometimes it doesn't quite feel ready and I find myself going back to using the plugin version for anything beyond a few simple edits, and only on a monophonic source(like a vocal or bass guitar) More than once I have had ARA pick an algorithm that is NOT what I have set as default, and it refuses to let me pick another and re-analyze. The plugin version continues to work great
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Old 10-23-2023, 06:42 AM
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Hi there!

Can you give more info on the audio clip you’re trying to edit on melodyne? Is it a single audio track with full elements? Or an audio track with just a single element? Let’s just an instrument or just a vocal track?
Yeah, single mono mic'd monophonic instrument on a mono audio track. (a whistling part, in this specific case, but I've had this happen on other types of source material too.)
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Old 10-23-2023, 06:49 AM
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ARA is great in theory, but sometimes it doesn't quite feel ready and I find myself going back to using the plugin version for anything beyond a few simple edits, and only on a monophonic source(like a vocal or bass guitar) More than once I have had ARA pick an algorithm that is NOT what I have set as default, and it refuses to let me pick another and re-analyze. The plugin version continues to work great
Yeah, I've been hesitant to go back to the old version....I just love the way that the ARA version is okay with form changes, cuts, seems to work ok with tempo changes, and is tied to the specific clips. Hard to give that up!
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Old 10-23-2023, 10:48 AM
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Try selecting/highlighting it all and then try to change it.
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Old 10-26-2023, 06:18 AM
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Yea, did that already; didn't let me change it.

I changed the default algo, disabled melo, saved, quit PT, reopened, re-instantiated melo, and there it was using the melodic algo that it should have.

Weird workaround, but ok. Lol
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Try selecting/highlighting it all and then try to change it.
I think this was your problem previously. By selecting and highlighting, make sure it is the blobs that you are selecting and highlighting before you go back to that menu to switch the algorhythm.

But I agree with you, Melodyne doesn't seem to detect is correctly often in ARA like it does the plugin version. I just have the default set to the monophonic mode and use that menu if I want something else.
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Yea, did that already; didn't let me change it.

I changed the default algo, disabled melo, saved, quit PT, reopened, re-instantiated melo, and there it was using the melodic algo that it should have.

Weird workaround, but ok. Lol
I have this happening from time to time as well ...ans selecting all doesn't cure it.
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Just select one blob. Then you should have the option to change the algo. This will by definition do it for the whole file.


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