Pulling back from the bleeding edge

[b mcgibney]

I've been with PT since the 5.0 digi 001 days. At some point I will upgrade my current 5,1 12core machine which is upgraded to run Mojave with a metal GPU card but for now I'm wondering what combo of Mac OS and PT gives the best combo of performance/features?

Currently running Mac Sierra on one HD and Mojave on another. I like Sierra because I can still run both Izotope Advanced 5 and Reaktor 5. I also run Mojave on another SSD but I see no advantage for the kind of music I am making.

At this point I want the most capable and stable combo of PT and Mac OS.

In terms of features, track freeze was the last feature that really made a difference to how I make music.

Thanks for 20 years of wisdom in music recording

BTW sig file is out of date, I've maintained my perpetual license GRRRR!

Brian

[musicman691]

Running PT 2021.6 in OSX 10.13.6 (High Sierra) on the 5,1 2012 cheesegrater on my profile page no problem. Reaktor 5 runs on it no problem. You can go past Mojave to Catalina - follow this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxFzZWqoCng


You've mentioned pulling back from the bleeding edge and I concur. I've been tempted to go to Catalina but at what cost? $700-800 for a new video card? Like you for the type of work I do I don't need the latest features in PT. That's why I stopped paying the yearly Avid task and froze my system where it is.



I don't need things like ARA. I don't do large-scale work. Best combination of performance and features? That's up to you to decide on what features you need. Not what's nice to have or the latest/shiniest feature - that can lead you down a very expensive rabbit hole. What you need now and realistically what you see yourself needing in future work.


Yes I've thought about what to do if my system croaks. I'd get a 6,1 and run something like Catalina. Would I like a 7,1? Oh hell yeah. Ain't got the money.

[b mcgibney]

Thanks for you thoughts musicman. You are right about not going down the rabbit hole. Since PT has gone to their current pricing model I keep swearing I'm gonna get off the train. I'm now just an old guy making most acoustic music. My 5,1 still runs strong and I am definitely the weakest link in the chain.

Cheers from the left coast

B

[Ben Jenssen]

I'm thinking like this; I've let my perpetual update plan expire, and I'm not missing anything. I have a pretty good intel mac mini, and Catalina suits me fine.

I am settled fine to await the point in time when the combination of new apple hardware and OS becomes too good not to adopt. A year? More likely two. (PT running native on apple silicon is another discussion.)

I actually bought a M1 mini early this summer. PT ran like a lion on it. Fantastic machine; never got hot. But I returned it. I didn't really get anything new from big sur, quite the opposite; not having a intel processor meant I lost some functionalities that I wanted.

So, I'm on the fence. With a powerful intel mac, looking forward to next year and blowing a large amount of cash on the next generation of mac.

(I actually have both a MP w/sierra/snowleopard/PT10, and G4 powermac w/001, still working, last time I checked.)

[b mcgibney]

Lol, I still have my old 001 setup as well as an 002 003 and three different laptops running everything from Leopard to Catalina. I think a mac mini M1X is where I will end up. Cheers from Vancouver

Originally Posted by Ben Jenssen

(I actually have both a MP w/sierra/snowleopard/PT10, and G4 powermac w/001, still working, last time I checked.)

[sdelsolray]

I froze my PT system shortly after Apple Silcon was announced. My i5 iMac runs on High Sierra and I froze at PT 2020.12.

I'll wait until PT runs natively well on Apple Silicon before jumping in again.

[JFreak]

I think the idea is to "abandon" the old license and keep using the last version available for seceral years. Then you could think that of the 600, first 200 is the mandatorysuppirt fee and thus license costs 400. It also means there is zero benefit in doing this if you need to upgrade more often than every four years (600+3*200 = 600+600)


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[sdelsolray]

Originally Posted by JFreak

I think the idea is to "abandon" the old license and keep using the last version available for seceral years. Then you could think that of the 600, first 200 is the mandatorysuppirt fee and thus license costs 400. It also means there is zero benefit in doing this if you need to upgrade more often than every four years (600+3*200 = 600+600)


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The license is abandoned at the end of the last year of support. Three years is the break even point. I save $600 ($200 x 3) by abandoning the old perpetual license for three years. At four years (had I kept the old license and purchased support for each of those four years), I would have spent $800.

But who knows, perhaps at that time the price of a new perpetual license for PT Native/Vanilla will have gone up to $800 and annual support up to $250.

[JFreak]

1st year, 600
2nd year, 200
3rd year, 200
4th year, 200
--> total 1200

1st year, 600
2nd year, skip support
3rd year, skip support
4th year, 600
--> total 1200

This means it costs equal money whether or not you want updates on 2nd and 3rd year or not. If you want small savings, you also need to skip 4th year and without any savings skipping on support is pointless in my book. So assuming someone wishes to update computer or operating system every three years (or god forbid more often than that), skipping on support is pointless.