Thunderbolt interface, better performance?

[guitardom]

Originally Posted by propower

As a 2013 MacPro (6 TB ports) and a 2015 MBP (2 TB ports) owner I would sure love to see any links about Apple moving away from TB . Would make no sense to me...

Ahh - I see the link now... thats USBC connector with integrated TB 3. No worries...

TB3 is the C type connector. You will have to have adapters for TB 1-2 devices. Intel owns TB, not Apple and Intel is leading this brigade and Apple has no choice but to follow. Display port is also going bye bye in this transition. We still don't know if TB3 devices will be backwards compatible with TB 1-2.

[guitardom]

Originally Posted by Extreme Mixing

I haven't really noticed that many USB 3 audio interfaces. I've been thinking about the Resident Audio T-4. http://www.residentaudio.com/ It's thunderbolt 2 and seems to be a very good price at $249. So give it up guys, where are all these cheap USB 3 or USB C interfaces. I'd love to have some others to compare with...

Steve

Not sure what platform you use, but these will not work with Windows 7. Must be 8.1 or 10. Most forthcoming TB devices that have Windows drivers will follow this paradigm.

USB C/USB 3.1 are still VERY new. It is going to take a bit to trickle into te market as most users don't even have computers with these. Mac for instance lies about its 3.1 spec (calling it gen 1) and is actually only 3.0 speeds.

3.0 interfaces are starting to appear such as the new UAD twin USB which will not even work on USB 2.0 ports.

[guitardom]

Originally Posted by JCBigler

What about on Windows?

HDN TB works great on Windows.

[hakofred]

But will a T bolt interface increase the performance in PT compared to a usb2 interface?

[guitardom]

Originally Posted by ramonetl

I personally would hold off a bit as expect that there will be a new apple this year and rumor is that they are moving away from TB so that might be worth it to wait. That said, I think USB 3 is plenty fast and much cheaper. Its still 5gb max throughput (specs - ymmv) and I have yet to ever tax mine to that point. If you make it ssd even faster. I believe TB drives are over priced and a niche market. I can see if if you are tracking huge projects in HD etc in a pro environment but for a home studio I dont think its worth the up charge. Tons of articles out there but here is a quick comparison and USB 3.1 supposedly is neck and neck with TB ver 1. Peter

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/2...nderbolt-speed

They are not dropping TB, the connector is changing which will throw current users into the adapter game when they replace their systems in the future.

[guitardom]

Originally Posted by hakofred

But will a T bolt interface increase the performance in PT compared to a usb2 interface?

Absolutely not. It's all based on the quality of the drivers. The best you could expect is possible improved latency when tracking. It would be on par with PCIe which is most always better than USB, even at same buffer sizes. Though this could change with the greater bandwidth of USB 3/3.1, but we will have to see more interfaces built specifically for these protocols to know.

[hakofred]

Originally Posted by guitardom

Absolutely not. It's all based on the quality of the drivers. The best you could expect is possible improved latency when tracking. It would be on par with PCIe which is most always better than USB, even at same buffer sizes. Though this could change with the greater bandwidth of USB 3/3.1, but we will have to see more interfaces built specifically for these protocols to know.

Well improwed latency and audio engine performance sounds like better performance in PT to me. I use an external HD with usb 3 connection now and experience less problems than before.
The question is if the T-bolt interface will handle much more plugin capasity than the usb2 interface Anyway the latency issue is central in my world.

[Southsidemusic]

If you have an Interface with Thunderbolt and DSP like Apollo then Yes, a Tbolt interface is way better and can handle much more traffic via thunderbolt than say FW and USB especially USB2 which is pretty old.

If you don't have an interface with DSP then it might not look like it is doing anything better but 100% it is better transfer rate and overall performance.

[guitardom]

Originally Posted by hakofred

Well improwed latency and audio engine performance sounds like better performance in PT to me. I use an external HD with usb 3 connection now and experience less problems than before.
The question is if the T-bolt interface will handle much more plugin capasity than the usb2 interface Anyway the latency issue is central in my world.

I never said "improved audio engine performance", I said possibly lower latency. Bad TB drivers would make your system perform worse than with good USB or FW drivers. The quality of the driver is what matters, not the protocol used.

The plugin handling issue has nothing to do with the interface. That is based on the power of your computer.

[Brado]

Originally Posted by Extreme Mixing

I haven't really noticed that many USB 3 audio interfaces. I've been thinking about the Resident Audio T-4. http://www.residentaudio.com/ It's thunderbolt 2 and seems to be a very good price at $249. So give it up guys, where are all these cheap USB 3 or USB C interfaces. I'd love to have some others to compare with...

Steve

Just picked up the new Presonus 192 USB 3 interface.. I was anxious to try USB 3, after hooking it up to a usb 3 port, I couldnt pass audio. First big bullet on Presonus's web page is that it only works on a usb 3 port running El Capitan. I am on Yosemite. DOH!..