i7 Builds - Specs and Results

[unclemonkey]

Time to move on from the trusty old Q6600. Anyone care to look over this list? only thing I'm keeping from the old computer is a bunch of Caviar Blacks for samples and audio.

Not sure about the RAM I picked. couldn't find any qualified 32 gig kits on Newegg. 32 gigs overkill? I suck at picking out RAM. Don't know much about Ram speed, timing.....

Not sure about the video card either. Figured I would go with something fanless and cheap. The one I picked looked like it wouldn't get in the way of to much in the case.

Not 100% on the MB. Any advantage going with one of the Asus Boards? (P9X79 or Sabertooth)?



GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128532
-$30.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$269.99
$239.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128532

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K
Item #: N82E16819116492
$569.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492

Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 140mm and 120mm SSO CPU Cooler
Item #: N82E16835608024
-$5.00 Instant
$94.99
$89.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608024

CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ32GX3M4A1600C9
Item #: N82E16820233303
$165.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233303

ASUS 8400GS-1GD3-SL GeForce 8400 GS 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Item #: N82E16814121484
$32.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121484

CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular ...
Item #: N82E16817139015
-$10.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$199.99
$189.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

SYBA Add-On Card Model SY-PEX30016
Item #: N82E16815124107
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$24.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124107

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116997
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
$189.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116997

Intel 330 Series Maple Crest SSDSC2CT180A3K5 2.5" 180GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820167122
-$5.00 Instant
$154.99
$149.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167122

iStarUSA D-400-7P Black 1.2mm SECC Zinc-Coated Steel (Japan Made) (Main Chassis) 4U Rackmount Compact Stylish Chassis
Item #: N82E16811165418
-$10.00 Instant
$106.99
$96.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811165418

Grand Total: $1,795.97

[Dism]

Looks pretty good to me.

Although, you probably don't need to go that big with the PSU, just saying. Not that you can ever have too much power, but I spent $60 on mine and it still has plenty of juice to spare.

In fact, I'd go as far as saying spend a little less on the PSU, and a bit more on a modern GPU. Not that you need a lot a of video power, but a $60 DDR5 card will be a lot more future proof.

[guitardom]

Looks pretty good to me.

Although, you probably don't need to go that big with the PSU, just saying. Not that you can ever have too much power, but I spent $60 on mine and it still has plenty of juice to spare.

In fact, I'd go as far as saying spend a little less on the PSU, and a bit more on a modern GPU. Not that you need a lot a of video power, but a $60 DDR5 card will be a lot more future proof.

1 spot where we would differ. I always say buy the best psu you can afford and skimp on the vid card :D

I would also consider getting w8 instead of 7. As it will be the path going foward. Obviously not ready to go for PT yet though...... Like being stuck in a terrible state of OS purgatory!!!!

[unclemonkey]

I couldn't find a fanless DDR5 Video card on Newegg. If anyone could suggest a better card than the one I listed it would be appreciated. Im going to stick with the big power supply either way and W7 for the time being.

[unclemonkey]

Time to move on from the trusty old Q6600. Anyone care to look over this list? only thing I'm keeping from the old computer is a bunch of Caviar Blacks for samples and audio.

Not sure about the RAM I picked. couldn't find any qualified 32 gig kits on Newegg. 32 gigs overkill? I suck at picking out RAM. Don't know much about Ram speed, timing.....

Not sure about the video card either. Figured I would go with something fanless and cheap. The one I picked looked like it wouldn't get in the way of to much in the case.

Not 100% on the MB. Any advantage going with one of the Asus Boards? (P9X79 or Sabertooth)?



GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128532
-$30.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$269.99
$239.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128532

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K
Item #: N82E16819116492
$569.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492

Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 140mm and 120mm SSO CPU Cooler
Item #: N82E16835608024
-$5.00 Instant
$94.99
$89.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608024

CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ32GX3M4A1600C9
Item #: N82E16820233303
$165.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233303

ASUS 8400GS-1GD3-SL GeForce 8400 GS 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Item #: N82E16814121484
$32.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121484

CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular ...
Item #: N82E16817139015
-$10.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$199.99
$189.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

SYBA Add-On Card Model SY-PEX30016
Item #: N82E16815124107
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$24.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124107

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116997
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
$189.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116997

Intel 330 Series Maple Crest SSDSC2CT180A3K5 2.5" 180GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820167122
-$5.00 Instant
$154.99
$149.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167122

iStarUSA D-400-7P Black 1.2mm SECC Zinc-Coated Steel (Japan Made) (Main Chassis) 4U Rackmount Compact Stylish Chassis
Item #: N82E16811165418
-$10.00 Instant
$106.99
$96.99
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811165418

Grand Total: $1,795.97

Still not sure about the RAM and MB. I'm going to look a little closer at the Asus boards and see if I can match up the ram better. I'm not trying to cut any corners. I want this as painless as possible. A few hundred more wont kill me. As all ways any suggestions are welcome.

[guitardom]

I couldn't find a fanless DDR5 Video card on Newegg. If anyone could suggest a better card than the one I listed it would be appreciated. Im going to stick with the big power supply either way and W7 for the time being.

That vid card is cheap enough I wouldn't worry about it. I have always used similar cards since I don't use my daw for anything else. If you had to replace it in 2-3 years, no big deal.

[guitardom]

Still not sure about the RAM and MB. I'm going to look a little closer at the Asus boards and see if I can match up the ram better. I'm not trying to cut any corners. I want this as painless as possible. A few hundred more wont kill me. As all ways any suggestions are welcome.

I would think the Asus sight would have approved ram.even if its not 1 set, buy a couple sets of something that's approved to get the amount of ram you want.

[mykhal c]

new PT10 build i just did for a buddy of mine. didn't run a DVERB test but man the rig is damn fast!!!:D the only 'gotcha' i ran into was usin' the SSD as the OS drive on the ASUS mobo with the new UEFI bios interface. there is a bios change that has to be made in order to avoid the OS partition bein' formatted with a GUID table vs the normal MBR table. before i figured it out the OS did run normally under the GUID format but it did NOT have a drive letter associated with the OS drive when viewing it under 'computer' services...tho the C drive letter did show up under disk management...kinda weird. but once i troubleshot things all went according to plan. SUPA BAD BUILD!!! i want one...NOW!!!:D

LIAN LI PC-7HX Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112389)

ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801)

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492)

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020)

CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CMZ32GX3M4X1866C10 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233237)

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B/WW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147164)

Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533)

Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136792)

ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118074)

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992)

ASUS 8400GS-1GD3-SL GeForce 8400 GS 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121484)

[Doven]

What was the total for the new build?

Also for those in the know, which video cards are better for this use. I want to use a dual boot set up (via hotswap). One for video and one for audio so I want a solid middle of the road video card.

[Doven]

Also, has anyone here set up hotswap bays/drives before on these builds? If so what is your experience?

[CME]

Also, has anyone here set up hotswap bays/drives before on these builds? If so what is your experience?

I don't swap my OS drive, but I do have a bay/tray on the top of my case I use for recording. Works great. Just remember to "eject" the HD before removing it. At least in OSX. I don't use windows on it much. So I couldn't tell you there.

[mykhal c]

What was the total for the new build?

Also for those in the know, which video cards are better for this use. I want to use a dual boot set up (via hotswap). One for video and one for audio so I want a solid middle of the road video card.

not sure...had more on invoice than just parts listed. links will provide you costs tho...

in the early days HAL size was the concern. in these days with access to so much ram HAL size becomes less important thus the size ram on the card is a non-issue. these days it's...get the card you want...

[Doven]

Are you saying that any vid card should work without problems? What does HAL refer too.

Thanks.

[mykhal c]

Are you saying that any vid card should work without problems? What does HAL refer too.

Thanks.

not quite what i said;) but the things that made us choose cards with a small ram foot print are no longer a concern. i have no idea what cards PT users are chosin' these days...sorry. HAL = hardware abstraction layer...builds your hardware footprint in ram for bios access.

[Doven]

Let's say you wanted a decent vid card for video editing and some middle of the road gaming, what would you pop in there that would behave for protools/reaper.

[guitardom]

Also, has anyone here set up hotswap bays/drives before on these builds? If so what is your experience?

I use an IcyDock removable bay for my C: drive and its a dream. I wouldn't do it any other way. I still have multiple partitions per drive but keep a working backup drive, a drive I test software and such and before it goes to my working drive and then my working drive. I have had no issues w it the last few years.

[CME]

Let's say you wanted a decent vid card for video editing and some middle of the road gaming, what would you pop in there that would behave for protools/reaper.

I think what he's saying is essentially, any card that meets your cost/performance/quietness/video editing/gaming needs will probably work fine in pro tools/reaper. It used to be best to use one with as little ram as possible. Because windows "matched" the amount of ram used by the video card and allocated it to where pro tools couldn't use it. So smaller was better. These days it's not as much of, if even, an issue.

[Doven]

Thanks for that.

I am guessing one could use a few. One for swapping os. One for swapping samples. One for swapping recorded material.

So in your experience this is the go to swap drive?


Any advice on a decent midline video card?

[guitardom]

Thanks for that.

I am guessing one could use a few. One for swapping os. One for swapping samples. One for swapping recorded material.

So in your experience this is the go to swap drive?


Any advice on a decent midline video card?

OS swap is the only one i need. i keep my working drive backed up and have clones of my samples drives so no need to swap any of them.

i would just go back through some of these working builds for a vid card. they change so often and so fast its hard to keep up with them

[albee1952]

I run Kingston SATA cages in my machines(for all drives). Its just too convenient to be able to pop drives out at any time. Also, as long as AHCI is selected in BIOS, you can hot-swap if you need to(so you might dedicate a drive for a returning client). Swapping system drives is another handy thing as I keep a clone of the current, as well as the previous working configuration, just in case(a studio for hire cannot afford downtime):D I even keep one of those BlacX boxes on the desktop and use that for cloning and to save/retrieve downloads, updates and installers;)

[Doven]

Thanks guys.

[Doven]

Do the mentioned hot swap systems also handle sd drives?

[albee1952]

Do the mentioned hot swap systems also handle sd drives?
Not by themselves, but maybe with an adapter(most are designed for 3.5" drives). My desktop drive cage can handle either, but I've never tried running the C: drive from there(but with an eSATA connection, it should work).

[Doven]

Are people still using triple channel ram or are we beyond that now in these builds?

[philip888]

Are people still using triple channel ram or are we beyond that now in these builds?

The Second Generation i7 processors uses a quad channel.

[filosofem]

The Second Generation i7 processors uses a quad channel.
To be more specific Sandy Bridge E uses quad channel memory, that's socket LGA 2011.

[Doven]

Man you guys are fast. Must be that quad ram. ;-)

[Doven]

What would be a great MB to go with Sandy?

ASUS Sabertooth X79? Would the fire wire on this unit be compatible with audio needs?

[albee1952]

Use RAM that is appropriate for your motherboard. Socket 1366 ran triple-channel, so 3 matching sticks(or 6 ir you have 6 slots). Socket 2011 runs quad-channel, so that should get 4 or 8 matching sticks. Anything other than those......sorry, but AFAIC, there is nothing but those 2 for Pro Tools:D:p

[Doven]

This is a nice thread for new builders. Thanks. You have all been very helpful.

Another question that comes up in this situation is, what firewire chip set and in what boards can you get it? If not that route then a decent tried and true 3rd party add on and which one is optimal?

[YYR123]

Another question that comes up in this situation is, what firewire chip set and in what boards can you get it?

Avid recommends Texas Instruments based FireWire chipset for maximum compatibility !

[mykhal c]

What would be a great MB to go with Sandy?

ASUS Sabertooth X79? Would the fire wire on this unit be compatible with audio needs?

FWIW, the onboard FW on the Sabertooth worked without issues with the 003R on the system i just built.

[Shobiz]

I haven't been on the DUC in years. Can someone update the computer build on the main page of this thread. What chip, mother board, and ram do I need?

[Doven]

FWIW, the onboard FW on the Sabertooth worked without issues with the 003R on the system i just built.

Good to know.

If I run into problems with that, what is a good card to install?

[Doven]

I haven't been on the DUC in years. Can someone update the computer build on the main page of this thread. What chip, mother board, and ram do I need?


Would depend on your budget to some degree. 4 core...6 core etc. Then work it out from there. There is not one specific build only.

I am going through this myself at this time and making choices. I am attempting a bit of a higher end build but not the ultimate build either.

[TOM@METRO]

I haven't been on the DUC in years. Can someone update the computer build on the main page of this thread. What chip, mother board, and ram do I need?
Tell us about your intentions regarding PT... HD, HDX, NDN, PT W/ CPTK etc?

And about your interface if not HD(X).

How large are your sessions? Do you use a ton of VIs?

This thread is kinda' serving everyone now.

[Jon E.]

FWIW, I just completed an i7 build based on a lot of info here and elsewhere, it appears to be stable and working well with my old copies of PTMP 8.0.5 and MPTK2 running on Win8 x64. I did an off-the-cuff D-Verb test that let me load 336 stereo D-Verbs before hitting an 85% CPU limit, about 384 stereo D-Verbs at 90%, my buffer size was 128 samples. I'm sure results will be better with newer versions of the software, and yes I am due for a software upgrade, easier to do now that I have the machine to run it. Build and load went relatively smoothly, glad to help anyone going down this path. My system is below. Thanks. Jon E.

1 x Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
BX80619i73820 $299.99
1 x GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $239.99
1 x G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-
17000CL9Q-16GBZH $129.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit (Full Version) - OEM $99.99
1 x CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High
Performance Power Supply $84.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive -
OEM $84.99
1 x Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $54.99
1 x ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X
CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM $19.99
1 x Logitech K120 Black USB Wired Standard Keyboard $15.99
1 x Logitech M100 910-001601 Black 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical 1000 dpi Mouse $11.99
1 x COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible
with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+ $30.99
Re-used from my old AMD Opteron Quad:
1 x Western Digital Caviar RE WD1600YS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM Model #: WD1600YS
2 x Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM Model #: WD2500KS
1 x BFG Tech BFGR76256GTOCE GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail Model #: BFGR76256GTOCE

[threeholeface]

So just finished my i7 build for PT 9.0.3 Win 7, i used the following:
GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 LGA 2011 Intel X79
Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz
Syba Low Profile PCI-Express 1394b/1394a (TI Chip)
ASUS 8400GS-1GD3-SL GeForce 8400 GS 1GB 64-bit
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB)
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO
Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W Continuous
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower
WD raptor 120
(2)WD black for recording and storage
Everything has been installed and runs pretty smooth but I have yet to do any bios or Win7 tweaking, or heavy testing for that matter. My D-verb test was around 375 @1024
From the first page I want to follow the avid optimization guide (http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Troubleshooting/en349411)
I believe my ram supports "XMP" but see conflicting post as to enabling this or manually entering freq time. I plan on using mykhal c's tweaks from post #1&2 below but wanted to check if anything has changed or is not nessesary to stablize pro tools. Also see conflicting post's about hyper threading and turbo boost being enabled or disabled...any clarification on this?? Im not planning on overclocking
XMP / BIOS settings:
First if your OCZ memory supports X.M.P. (check manual or their website) then on the "AI Tweaker" window switch to X.M.P. that will just set all your RAM timing to match with the CPU and all the other things. It will adjust voltages and everything.... Second: Disable Speedstepping (C1E, C3/C6/C7) on Gigayte boards. This feautre should be above the Turbo Mode or somewhere in the CPU Settings. Note that that will also disalble TURBO MODE. Anyway u got to do that because Speedsteppin is causing some errors with Pro Tools... Third make sure that Hyper Threading (HT) is ON! That will improve performance in Pro Tools . Also in the "Boot" tab under "Boot device priority" only check ur hard drive! Disable all the other drive whatever (Tip USE ENTER for that :P). Well thats all I think... Ohh no it isn't! :O Ooops! You gotta disable all the onboard stuff that u don't use. If u use PCI firewirecard (which I suggest BTW, something that has TI Chipset on) then u should disable the onboard Firewire (1394) so the two but interfere with each other. Same applies for Audio and LAN. If u use Wireless Internet disable LAN.

Thanks for any help,
Terry

[guitardom]

So just finished my i7 build for PT 9.0.3 Win 7, i used the following:
GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 LGA 2011 Intel X79
Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz
Syba Low Profile PCI-Express 1394b/1394a (TI Chip)
ASUS 8400GS-1GD3-SL GeForce 8400 GS 1GB 64-bit
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB)
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO
Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W Continuous
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower
WD raptor 120
(2)WD black for recording and storage
Everything has been installed and runs pretty smooth but I have yet to do any bios or Win7 tweaking, or heavy testing for that matter. My D-verb test was around 375 @1024
From the first page I want to follow the avid optimization guide (http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Troubleshooting/en349411)
I believe my ram supports "XMP" but see conflicting post as to enabling this or manually entering freq time. I plan on using mykhal c's tweaks from post #1&2 below but wanted to check if anything has changed or is not nessesary to stablize pro tools. Also see conflicting post's about hyper threading and turbo boost being enabled or disabled...any clarification on this?? Im not planning on overclocking
XMP / BIOS settings:
First if your OCZ memory supports X.M.P. (check manual or their website) then on the "AI Tweaker" window switch to X.M.P. that will just set all your RAM timing to match with the CPU and all the other things. It will adjust voltages and everything.... Second: Disable Speedstepping (C1E, C3/C6/C7) on Gigayte boards. This feautre should be above the Turbo Mode or somewhere in the CPU Settings. Note that that will also disalble TURBO MODE. Anyway u got to do that because Speedsteppin is causing some errors with Pro Tools... Third make sure that Hyper Threading (HT) is ON! That will improve performance in Pro Tools . Also in the "Boot" tab under "Boot device priority" only check ur hard drive! Disable all the other drive whatever (Tip USE ENTER for that :P). Well thats all I think... Ohh no it isn't! :O Ooops! You gotta disable all the onboard stuff that u don't use. If u use PCI firewirecard (which I suggest BTW, something that has TI Chipset on) then u should disable the onboard Firewire (1394) so the two but interfere with each other. Same applies for Audio and LAN. If u use Wireless Internet disable LAN.

Thanks for any help,
Terry
your dverb numbers seem right on.
personally i dont mess with the xmp settings. i keep it off and do what i need manually.
the tweaks mykhal posted are all completely relevant with this build.
honestly there is no resolve on if its better with or without hyperthreading. works great either way ;)
i would look at the speed, latency, and voltage of the ram and set those manually. i also like to set my bclock, vcore, voltages, etc and set them manually as they are on auto and the speed will throttle up and down in auto. i built a similar machine recently and am still running it on auto due and is running fine, but i will change all these settings as soon as time permits.

[threeholeface]

Thanks for the input guitardom.
My Bios is F10, So far I have done:
•All the Avid tweaks
•Set ram to XMP “Profile 1” (this was the only setting I could choose other than disable).
•Turned off Turbo and left Hyper threading “on”.
•Disabled C1E, C3/C6 (there was no C7 option in my bios).
•CPU EIST Function set to “disabled”.
•Virtualization Technology set to “Disable”.

I think that’s all the tweaks I’ve done but will have to check my notes when I get back home. I haven’t done the 1394 hotfix yet but noticed that I do randomly lose connection with my BLA_002R on startup.Haven’t changed anything under "Boot device priority" (is this in bios or win 7, and what is gained from this tweak??). In pro tools 9.0.3 I am running all 8 cores@90% and all my old sessions seem to be running smooth with only 30% CPU usage!! I’ll have to do more testing to make sure everything is stable and I’ll also be doing another D-verb test after those tweaks listed above. I really dont know how to set my bclock, vcore, voltages or the speed, latency, and voltage of the ram manually may need some help on those so I don’t damage anything.

[FRETLESS]

Great thread! I'm getting ready to do a new build as well. The MOBO you selected is compatible with 4 ×240pin DDR3 2133/1866/1600/1333/1066 memory. Why did you go with 1600 and not 1866 or 2133?

[FRETLESS]

What I meant to say is....What is the difference between DDR 2133/1866 and 1600?
Also, There is a comparable ASUS board ASUS P9X79 LE LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS that can utilize 64Gb of memory. First, I don't believe I'd ever expand to 64Gb of memory for the size of projects I develop. That being said..... Does it matter whether or not you only utilize 4 slots when 8 are available if you are using 4x4 sticks of memory?

[TOM@METRO]

What I meant to say is....What is the difference between DDR 2133/1866 and 1600?
Also, There is a comparable ASUS board ASUS P9X79 LE LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS that can utilize 64Gb of memory. First, I don't believe I'd ever expand to 64Gb of memory for the size of projects I develop. That being said..... Does it matter whether or not you only utilize 4 slots when 8 are available if you are using 4x4 sticks of memory?
First answer: The higher the number, the faster the RAM. Faster is better.

Second answer: Four sticks of RAM in four slots will be all you need to take advantage of four channel RAM.

[smokeandshadow]

Would this version of the Gigabyte board work?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128562

I want to access more than 32GB of ram for samples using Vienna Ensemble Pro

[albee1952]

Would this version of the Gigabyte board work?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128562

I want to access more than 32GB of ram for samples using Vienna Ensemble Pro

I would expect any x79 motherboard to work well enough, so get a mobo with the features you need. Not sure if you will reap the benefit of 64GB of RAM just yet, but it would be "future proof":D

Agree with TOM@METRO on RAM, but if you have 8 slots, use the proper 4 slots if you install 4 sticks(usually the same color slots).

[mykhal c]

Would this version of the Gigabyte board work?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128562

I want to access more than 32GB of ram for samples using Vienna Ensemble Pro

mobo and features look good...definitely should work. make sure you use UEFI bios in compatibility mode tho. UEFI mode results in your OS drive bein' config'd as a GUID formatted partition as opposed to a MBR format...still workable/useable but drive letter will NOT show up under computer view...but it will show in disk management...took me a minute to trouble-shoot that one. i'm usin' the ASUS Sabertooth X79. gettin' ready to add another 16gb of ram...32gb total. VEPro will LUV the 64gb. but i hope you will be usin' PTHD 10 or PT10 w/CPTK with disk cache. otherwise you will run into the 4gb 32bit app ram limit for your audio files in PT10. disk cache allows you to avoid the ceiling ;)

[mykhal c]

LIAN LI PC-7HX Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112389)

ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801)

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492)

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020)

G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231501)

Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443)

ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118074)

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992)


used HDDs (from Q6600 build) and spare video card used to complete system :D

[mykhal c]

LIAN LI PC-7HX Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112389)

ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801)

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492)

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020)

G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231501)

Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443)

ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118074)

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992)


used HDDs (from Q6600 build) and spare video card used to complete system :D

finally tested my system...config'd to 3.625MHz...cpu multiplier 29 - bus speed 100 - BCLK 125 - ram underclocked to 2000 (2133 is spec) turbospeed off

results...550 dverbs (1024 buffer, 11 procs, 99%, 24/48 session) :cool::D

[mykhal c]

finally tested my system...config'd to 3.625MHz...cpu multiplier 29 - bus speed 100 - BCLK 125 - ram underclocked to 2000 (2133 is spec) turbospeed off

results...550 dverbs (1024 buffer, 11 procs, 99%, 24/48 session) :cool::D

FWIW...just tested same config with HT OFF...5 of 6 procs @99%

results...370 dverbs... HT ON seems to win this battle ;)

[Doven]

Good info.

[kbruff]

Could anyone recommend a low noise sata hard drive please?

[EGS]

Western Digital Black

[kbruff]

Western Digital Black

Thank you kindly!

[MightyMosaic]

I have been experiencing Allot of issues with this machine and protools since I bought it. This is back when my thought process was " Its expensive and powerful so it will do the job flawlessly" lol.. haha Live and learn i guess.. Now im starting to understand how specific things must be with a protools machine. Long story short here is my sandra report and i would appreciate it if one of you Gurus will give me and idea on what to replace or if i should just build a brand new machine Thanks in advance. ( im slowly going crazzy over this haha)

SiSoftware Sandra

Computer
Model : OEM To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Workgroup : WORKGROUP
Host Name : M-PC
User : M

Processor
Model : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Speed : 3.7GHz
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 2 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
Integrated Data Cache : 4x 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L2 Cache : 4x 256kB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L3 Cache : 8MB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 16-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size, 16 threads sharing

Computer
Mainboard : ASRock P67 Extreme4
BIOS : AMI (OEM) P1.60 02/18/2011
Bus(es) : X-Bus PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : Yes
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR3

Chipset
Model : ASRock Core (Sandy Bridge) DRAM Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 100MHz
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR3
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 667MHz (1.33GHz)

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)

Video System
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (480 SM5.0 1.6GHz, 1.3GB, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (480 SM5.0 1.6GHz, 1.3GB, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor
OpenCL Processor : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (480SP 15C 1.6GHz, 1.3GB)
Compute Shader Processor : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (480SP 1.6GHz, 1.3GB)
CUDA Processor : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (480SP 15C 1.6GHz, 1.3GB)

Storage Devices
WDC WD1600HLFS-75G6U1 (160GB, SATA300, 3.5", 10000rpm, 16MB Cache) : 149GB (C:)
WD My Book 1140 2TB (USB) : 2TB (K:)
WD My Book 1140 2TB (USB) : 2TB (L:)
Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB) : N/A (F:)
Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB) : N/A (G:)
Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB) : N/A (H:)
Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB) : N/A (I:)
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223L (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (D:)
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (E:)
DTSOFT BDROM () : 8GB (J:)

Logical Storage Devices
Hard Disk (C:) : 149GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD1600HLFS-75G6U1 (160GB, SATA300, 3.5", 10000rpm, 16MB Cache)
My Book (K:) : 2TB (NTFS) @ WD My Book 1140 2TB (USB)
My Book (L:) : 2TB (NTFS) @ WD My Book 1140 2TB (USB)
Removable Drive (F:) : N/A @ Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB)
Removable Drive (G:) : N/A @ Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB)
Removable Drive (H:) : N/A @ Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB)
Removable Drive (I:) : N/A @ Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB)
Optical Drive (D:) : N/A @ TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223L (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)
Optical Drive (E:) : N/A @ TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)
Reason 5 (J:) : 8GB (UDF) @ DTSOFT BDROM ()

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : ASRock Cougar Point LPC Controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : T0 C3-33
Audio Device : ASRock Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Codec : Realtek Semi High Definition Audio
Audio Device : EVGA GF110 High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Codec : nVidia Riva 128 Graphics Accelerator [NV3]
Audio Codec : 1 0001h
Audio Codec : 1 0001h
Serial Port(s) : 1
Disk Controller : ASRock Cougar Point 4 port SATA IDE Controller
Disk Controller : ASRock Cougar Point 2 port SATA IDE Controller
Disk Controller : ASRock 88SE91A0 SATA-600 Controller
USB Controller 1 : ASRock Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #2
USB Controller 2 : ASRock Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #1
USB Controller 3 : ASRock Etron USB 3.0 Extensible Host Controller
USB Controller 4 : ASRock Etron USB 3.0 Extensible Host Controller
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : NEC uPD72874 IEEE1394 OHCI 1.1 3-port PHY-Link Ctrlr
FireWire/1394 Controller 2 : ASRock VT6315 Series Firewire Controller
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel ICH SMBus

Printers and Faxes
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Fax : Microsoft Shared Fax Driver (200x200)

Peripherals

Network Services
Network Adapter : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (Ethernet, 100Mbps)

Power Management
Mains (AC) Line Status : On-Line

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.01.7601 (Service Pack 1)
Platform Compliance : x64

Windows Experience Index
Current System : 5.9

[YYR123]

I'm not sure but aren't most people having success at x79 chipsets?

[TOM@METRO]

I'm not sure but aren't most people having success at x79 chipsets?
Yes. An X79 chipset on a Gigabyte or Asus board with an Intel Sandy Bridge-E CPU is the current way to go.

[FRETLESS]

I'm in the the middle of a new build using the GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 LGA 2011 Intel X79, and Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz.

The mid tower case I purchased has a USB3 connection on the top of the case. The cable from that connection actually has a USB3 connector on the end of it which does not mate with the USB3 9 pin connector on the motherboard.
Is there an adapter available, or do I have to put a 9 pin female connector on the end?
Is there a wiring diagram available showing the proper pin coneections?

Thanks

[guitardom]

I have been experiencing Allot of issues with this machine and protools since I bought it. This is back when my thought process was " Its expensive and powerful so it will do the job flawlessly" lol.. haha Live and learn i guess.. Now im starting to understand how specific things must be with a protools machine. Long story short here is my sandra report and i would appreciate it if one of you Gurus will give me and idea on what to replace or if i should just build a brand new machine Thanks in advance. ( im slowly going crazzy over this haha)

SiSoftware Sandra

Computer
Model : OEM To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Workgroup : WORKGROUP
Host Name : M-PC
User : M

Processor
Model : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Speed : 3.7GHz
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 2 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
Integrated Data Cache : 4x 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L2 Cache : 4x 256kB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L3 Cache : 8MB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 16-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size, 16 threads sharing

Computer
Mainboard : ASRock P67 Extreme4
BIOS : AMI (OEM) P1.60 02/18/2011
Bus(es) : X-Bus PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : Yes
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR3

Chipset
Model : ASRock Core (Sandy Bridge) DRAM Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 100MHz
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR3
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 667MHz (1.33GHz)

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)

Video System
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (480 SM5.0 1.6GHz, 1.3GB, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (480 SM5.0 1.6GHz, 1.3GB, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor
OpenCL Processor : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (480SP 15C 1.6GHz, 1.3GB)
Compute Shader Processor : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (480SP 1.6GHz, 1.3GB)
CUDA Processor : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 (480SP 15C 1.6GHz, 1.3GB)

Storage Devices
WDC WD1600HLFS-75G6U1 (160GB, SATA300, 3.5", 10000rpm, 16MB Cache) : 149GB (C:)
WD My Book 1140 2TB (USB) : 2TB (K:)
WD My Book 1140 2TB (USB) : 2TB (L:)
Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB) : N/A (F:)
Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB) : N/A (G:)
Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB) : N/A (H:)
Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB) : N/A (I:)
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223L (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (D:)
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (E:)
DTSOFT BDROM () : 8GB (J:)

Logical Storage Devices
Hard Disk (C:) : 149GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD1600HLFS-75G6U1 (160GB, SATA300, 3.5", 10000rpm, 16MB Cache)
My Book (K:) : 2TB (NTFS) @ WD My Book 1140 2TB (USB)
My Book (L:) : 2TB (NTFS) @ WD My Book 1140 2TB (USB)
Removable Drive (F:) : N/A @ Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB)
Removable Drive (G:) : N/A @ Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB)
Removable Drive (H:) : N/A @ Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB)
Removable Drive (I:) : N/A @ Generic STORAGE DEVICE-6 (USB)
Optical Drive (D:) : N/A @ TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223L (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)
Optical Drive (E:) : N/A @ TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)
Reason 5 (J:) : 8GB (UDF) @ DTSOFT BDROM ()

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : ASRock Cougar Point LPC Controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : T0 C3-33
Audio Device : ASRock Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Codec : Realtek Semi High Definition Audio
Audio Device : EVGA GF110 High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Codec : nVidia Riva 128 Graphics Accelerator [NV3]
Audio Codec : 1 0001h
Audio Codec : 1 0001h
Serial Port(s) : 1
Disk Controller : ASRock Cougar Point 4 port SATA IDE Controller
Disk Controller : ASRock Cougar Point 2 port SATA IDE Controller
Disk Controller : ASRock 88SE91A0 SATA-600 Controller
USB Controller 1 : ASRock Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #2
USB Controller 2 : ASRock Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #1
USB Controller 3 : ASRock Etron USB 3.0 Extensible Host Controller
USB Controller 4 : ASRock Etron USB 3.0 Extensible Host Controller
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : NEC uPD72874 IEEE1394 OHCI 1.1 3-port PHY-Link Ctrlr
FireWire/1394 Controller 2 : ASRock VT6315 Series Firewire Controller
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel ICH SMBus

Printers and Faxes
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Fax : Microsoft Shared Fax Driver (200x200)

Peripherals

Network Services
Network Adapter : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (Ethernet, 100Mbps)

Power Management
Mains (AC) Line Status : On-Line

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.01.7601 (Service Pack 1)
Platform Compliance : x64

Windows Experience Index
Current System : 5.9

Can you be specific on problems??

my take:
your motherboard, while may be fine is not a tested board among us. cant verify it as good or bad.

your hard drive situation concerns me. your C: drive seems to be a WD raptor 10,000 rpm. the problem is that it is a 16 mb cache drive. for our needs, 32-64mb cache drives are better performers, especially when using vi's that stream samples.

are you recording to the usb drive then?? this could be part of the problem

are your vid card drivers updated?? this can be the source of problems.

Ram: you could be causing issues by only using 2 of your 4 ram channels. best performance is by feeding ram separately to each channel. in other words, install your ram in 4 stick sets.

i would look into updating the bios.

these are my initial thoughts.

[guitardom]

I'm in the the middle of a new build using the GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 LGA 2011 Intel X79, and Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz.

The mid tower case I purchased has a USB3 connection on the top of the case. The cable from that connection actually has a USB3 connector on the end of it which does not mate with the USB3 9 pin connector on the motherboard.
Is there an adapter available, or do I have to put a 9 pin female connector on the end?
Is there a wiring diagram available showing the proper pin coneections?

Thanks

the connector on the board might be a "dual" port connector and the cable from the case is a single. probably is fine, it just goes onto 1 side of the port. the pinout is on the board typically or in the manual, but the cable coming out of the case should be colored. mate the + with red or - with black on the board. one side of the port on the board will be missing a pin. will be the easiest side to install it in.

[MightyMosaic]

My main problem is my sessions are glitch end out with constant errors and all most always end up freezing my machine with a buzzing noise ( I've heard it is due to my FireWire mbox 3 pro) I hadn't a clue about the WD hard drive and the cache...I have no clue what u mean about the ram also. I'm a little computer savvy but not that much I apologize for my stupidity lol .. My vid card is updated ..and I am recording to a USB 3 drive...I am planning on upgrading my system in the next few days, I have had enough of the headache. What would you suggest for me to get to have a very power full system that can run many vst's and heavy processing. I'm thinking of going the x79 route,is that the best way to go? And also what can I keep from my current system? Thx in advance

[guitardom]

My main problem is my sessions are glitch end out with constant errors and all most always end up freezing my machine with a buzzing noise ( I've heard it is due to my FireWire mbox 3 pro) I hadn't a clue about the WD hard drive and the cache...I have no clue what u mean about the ram also. I'm a little computer savvy but not that much I apologize for my stupidity lol .. My vid card is updated ..and I am recording to a USB 3 drive...I am planning on upgrading my system in the next few days, I have had enough of the headache. What would you suggest for me to get to have a very power full system that can run many vst's and heavy processing. I'm thinking of going the x79 route,is that the best way to go? And also what can I keep from my current system? Thx in advance
have you looked at your temperatures and see if they range in the normal area for your processor???

you have 2 sticks of ram installed. should have 4. not for the amount of ram, but to give each channel its own stick of ram.

------------------------------
here is mykhal c and my build:

mykhal c

LIAN LI PC-7HX Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112389)

ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801)

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492)

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020)

CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CMZ32GX3M4X1866C10 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233237)

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B/WW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147164)

Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533)

Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136792)

ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118074)

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992)

ASUS 8400GS-1GD3-SL GeForce 8400 GS 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121484)


guitardom


Gigabyte x79-UD5 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128531)

Intel 3930k (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492)

Evga Nvidia 520 vid card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130680)

Noctua cpu cooler (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608024)

Gskill Ripjaws X ram (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428) 16gb

OCZ Fatality 750w psu (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341041)

Rosewill 4 space server rackmount case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147154)

all WD Black 32/64 mb cache drives
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tom@metro also has a great running x79 build.

your vid card should be fine, IF you can get your identical ram, get 2 more sticks. if its not identical, get a new 4 stick set. your case should be fine. do you know the specs of your psu?? might be ok.

[Trainwrecker]

Yes. An X79 chipset on a Gigabyte or Asus board with an Intel Sandy Bridge-E CPU is the current way to go.

I was wondering why there are no Ivy builds. The X79 boards are priced in the same range. I need to replace my workstation, so I am swapping my DAW into that system. I am days away from another build. I am looking at the GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H w/ Intel 3770K. I'll let you guy know how all goes...

[guitardom]

I was wondering why there are no Ivy builds. The X79 boards are priced in the same range. I need to replace my workstation, so I am swapping my DAW into that system. I am days away from another build. I am looking at the GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H w/ Intel 3770K. I'll let you guy know how all goes...
ivy's have an inconsistent success rate. far to questionable to recommend. the x79 series is pretty much solid for the most part. x79 series with a 3930k is just faster period as well than anything you can do with the ivy bridge.

[MightyMosaic]

My PC is loaded with allot of fan power and I blow it out regularly so I don't think that would be the issue it stays rarely cool I would say. I am most def going to get on the ram thing with my next build. Your machine looks pretty well put together , I will be running allot of vi's is there a special precaution I should take because of that? I don't know what a PSU is ?

[guitardom]

My PC is loaded with allot of fan power and I blow it out regularly so I don't think that would be the issue it stays rarely cool I would say. I am most def going to get on the ram thing with my next build. Your machine looks pretty well put together , I will be running allot of vi's is there a special precaution I should take because of that? I don't know what a PSU is ?

fans in the case are not a big issue. especially with as little as you have going on in the case. i am talking about the cpu. are you using the cpu cooler that came with the cpu, or a 3rd party?? track down an app called coretemp and get the readings on idle and keep it running with pro tools going and such as you work and take note of the temps.

psu is the power supply.

no real special precaution for vi's. they like ram is about it. would not build a machine at this point with less than 32gb of ram if i were a heavy vi user. not a huge benefit now unless you host the vi's in vep pro or reaper or something. but as PT goes to 64 bit, you will gain the rewards.

[MightyMosaic]

Ohh o.k I get ya .. I am using a corseair a 70 I believe, I will most def do that test also..bbut after doing some reading its plain to see that my current build has allot of problems and I think its best to sell and cut my loses and build a new machine like the ones you described.nothing in the comp is stock its all after market I believe .

[Trainwrecker]

ivy's have an inconsistent success rate. far to questionable to recommend. the x79 series is pretty much solid for the most part. x79 series with a 3930k is just faster period as well than anything you can do with the ivy bridge.

I want to see the reasoning as how the price/performance is worth it. I am genuinely interested. :D

here is what I see; I might be off so please correct!

Currently I have the I7-920 @3.8MHz w/CORSAIR Hydro Series H60 Never a problem, great purchase!

Intel 3770K Ivy - $300- $325 Quad-Core
Easy to o/c - 4.0-4.8 (runs without effort @ 4.0)
Intel HD graphics 4000 (rates 6.5-7.8 on the Window 7 experience) -perfect for a DAW
Extremely low power consumption

Motherboards
ASUS Sabertooth Z77 - $225.00
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H - $134.00

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E- $525-569
6 core-4.6GHz overclock @ 1.4v (more if you want it.) Great O/C CPU

Motherboards
ASUS Sabertooth X79 - $ 325-339.00
GIGABYTE GA-X79-UP4 - $225-259

Where is the P/P value of the 3930K setup? Of course it looks like a bargain vs. the Extreme Edition. Intel has played that game for years....

Price/Performance and feature set? IVY. I can't see the value in the Sandy Bridge. Let me know...

[albee1952]

I want to see the reasoning as how the price/performance is worth it. I am genuinely interested. :D

here is what I see; I might be off so please correct!

Currently I have the I7-920 @3.8MHz w/CORSAIR Hydro Series H60 Never a problem, great purchase!

Intel 3770K Ivy - $300- $325 Quad-Core
Easy to o/c - 4.0-4.8 (runs without effort @ 4.0)
Intel HD graphics 4000 (rates 6.5-7.8 on the Window 7 experience) -perfect for a DAW
Extremely low power consumption

Motherboards
ASUS Sabertooth Z77 - $225.00
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H - $134.00

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E- $525-569
6 core-4.6GHz overclock @ 1.4v (more if you want it.) Great O/C CPU

Motherboards
ASUS Sabertooth X79 - $ 325-339.00
GIGABYTE GA-X79-UP4 - $225-259

Where is the P/P value of the 3930K setup? Of course it looks like a bargain vs. the Extreme Edition. Intel has played that game for years....

Price/Performance and feature set? IVY. I can't see the value in the Sandy Bridge. Let me know...
Well, ignoring performance for the moment, here's the difference for me: Z77....maybe it will work and maybe it won't. X79.....will work...period. 3930K....a beast. plain and simple. Overclocking......why bother? Just build a great machine that doesn't NEED to be OC'd. I've built several PT computers, and the only one that was a disappointment, was the build where I fretted over the money and ignored the important part(getting the parts that work). I know the price is tough to swallow, but foolow me on this little cost analysis. A really great build will last you how long? Let's say 5 years for the sake of argument. You can spend $1K or $1500 on these 2 builds. Over 5 years, the cheap build cost you $200 per year. The "bad-*****" build cost you $300 per year. Not such a big deal anymore is it? :D

[guitardom]

I want to see the reasoning as how the price/performance is worth it. I am genuinely interested. :D

here is what I see; I might be off so please correct!

Currently I have the I7-920 @3.8MHz w/CORSAIR Hydro Series H60 Never a problem, great purchase!

Intel 3770K Ivy - $300- $325 Quad-Core
Easy to o/c - 4.0-4.8 (runs without effort @ 4.0)
Intel HD graphics 4000 (rates 6.5-7.8 on the Window 7 experience) -perfect for a DAW
Extremely low power consumption

Motherboards
ASUS Sabertooth Z77 - $225.00
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H - $134.00

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E- $525-569
6 core-4.6GHz overclock @ 1.4v (more if you want it.) Great O/C CPU

Motherboards
ASUS Sabertooth X79 - $ 325-339.00
GIGABYTE GA-X79-UP4 - $225-259

Where is the P/P value of the 3930K setup? Of course it looks like a bargain vs. the Extreme Edition. Intel has played that game for years....

Price/Performance and feature set? IVY. I can't see the value in the Sandy Bridge. Let me know...

I retired my i7 920 after 4 years. It was a great machine. This 3930k is testing out at 2x's as fast as the 920 with neither overclocked. The 3930k is capable of a lot higher oc's as well if you wanted to.

I built the entire new x79 computer except hard drives for 1k over thanksgiving. Prices are a bit up now as I saved almost 400 dollars that weekend on parts.

As I said earlier, they just work. We have a high pt failure rate on the ivy's as even experienced guys like Albee has discovered. No rhyme or reason has been found why they just will not work for some people.

My first few PT computers were all close to 3k a piece after all was said and done adding the parts needed. This included a Sony vaio p4, dell laptop, amd opteron. About 1500 in a q6600 build. My 17 920 was just over a grand for the mb,CPU,cooler, ram, psu, vid card. This x79 build was a new case, new fans, psu, CPU, cooler, ram, vid card, all for the same price (actually bit cheaper) and twice as fast. There is no question it's far superior performance wise. Also the temps are going to be quite a bit lower than what your getting w the 920 cranked up. To say I am happy is an understatement.

[threeholeface]

So after my tweaks I can still only get 350 Dverbs, im guessing my ram is out of whack being set to auto, specs show it at 9-9-9-24 and in status it shows it running 9-9-11-24. Can someone take a look at my bios settings and help guide me through some changes? Sorry for multiple pics but dont know how else to troubleshoot.
Im running: GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 LGA 2011, Intel X79 Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz, CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB)
Other details are in post #5046
Thanks for any help

1_Bios
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/1_Bios_zps0e6a2843.jpg
2_Current Status
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/2_CurrentStatus_zps4ae7a827.jpg
3_Advanced Freq
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/3_AdvancedFreq_zps320a1900.jpg
4_Advanced CPU
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/4_AdvancedCPU_zps47756f75.jpg
5_Advanced Memory
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/5_AdvancedMemory_zps3cb328a5.jpg
6_Chn A Mem
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/6_ChnAMem_zpsd09aed2c.jpg
7_Chn B Mem
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/7_ChnBMem_zps44104465.jpg
8_Chn C Mem
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/8_ChnCMem_zps48ed6108.jpg
9_Chn D Mem
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/9_ChnDMem_zps7397f4b5.jpg
10_Advanced Voltages
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/10_AdvancedVoltages_zps3bfb227c.jpg
11_Advanced voltage 3D control
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/11_Advancedvoltage3Dcontrol_zpsea44cf11.jpg
12_Advanced voltage 3D control
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/12_Advancedvoltage3Dcontrol_zps2b8fe794.jpg
13_Advanced Voltage Dram
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/13_AdvancedVoltageDram_zps55158bcc.jpg
14_Chipset voltage
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/14_Chipsetvoltage_zpsc214221d.jpg
15_PC Health 1
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/15_PCHealth1_zpsb1898049.jpg
15_PC Health 2
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/15_PCHealth2_zps3515ae5f.jpg
16_Bios Feature
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/16_BiosFeature_zps925e0cd0.jpg
17_Periphrials
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/17_Periphrials_zpsefb697c3.jpg
18_Power Management
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/3holeface/New%20Bios/18_PowerManagement_zps0bf858da.jpg

[mykhal c]

if you are usin' the AAX dverb then your count will be lower than usin' the RTAS version. make sure you remove the AAX version from the folder so the RTAS version will show itself...then re-test;)

[threeholeface]

Im on PT9 so no AAX, I really think its the ram settings but not sure how to tweak it. 350 dverbs is still awesome but i would like to make this the best it can be, and most important be very stable.

[threeholeface]

I changed some settings in my bios by locking the bclck to 100mhz, disabled the "XMP" and manually entered timing and temp as per guitardom's suggestions and was able to squeeze out 3 more dverbs for a total of 368@1024 but i noticed that the Ignore Errors During Playback/Record box was "checked" instead of "unchecked" so im actually getting a lot less dverbs than previously thought. Anyone care to take a look at the bios pics i posted above in post #5078 and help me tweak this thing up? Im going to take a look at some background processes and tweaks from mykhal's post here (http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=277438) and take a look at the SMART utility from here (http://www.thewindowsclub.com/smart-a-utility-for-tweaking-windows-7-vista-xp-services) with the "black viper" tweak settingThanks again for any help.

[FRETLESS]

I just completed new build with Gigabyte X79 Mobo and i7 3820 cpu @ 3.6GHz. Windows 7 64 bit.
16G Ram G.skill 1600
System idles at 13% Ram usage. Is that ok? Good? High?

[threeholeface]

Ive got pretty much the same build except with 16gig corsair RAM, mine idles around 9%. Have you tweaked anything in the bios? Ive been getting random DAE -9128 error (CPU running out of power) at low buffer settings, it seems to happen in large and small sessions for no reason. Ive removed all my plugins and still cant seem to make it work .....just randomly happens.

[threeholeface]

So these DAE -9128 error (CPU running out of power) are crippling me, had to send the band home and if i cant get this straightend out by next week i'll have to hook the old dell back up. Can someone please give me a hand? When im in Pro Tools 9.0.3 and watch my cpu gauge it will randomly shoot up 10% and stop with error 9128. Ive disabled all the speed stepping and turned turbo boost off but no dice. I tried setting everything in bios manually and still same thing. Tried turning off hyperthread and no dice. Im gonna roll back to see if that helps but i seem to remember it doing that from the begining unfortunatly I had the Ignore Errors During Playback/Record box was "checked" instead of "unchecked. Im thinking its something in the bios or something in windows running in the background. I didnt install any software from the gigabyte disk only drivers. Here's my sandra report let me know if you need anymore info
Thanks for any help

SiSoftware Sandra

ID
Host Name : Terry-PC
Workgroup : WORKGROUP

Computer
Model : GigaByte
Serial Number : To be fille***********
Chassis : GigaByte Desktop
Mainboard : GigaByte X79-UD3
Serial Number : To be fille***********
BIOS : AMI (OEM) F11 07/05/2012
Total Memory : 16GB DIMM DDR3

Processors
Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3820 CPU @ 3.60GHz (4C 3.6GHz, 3.6GHz IMC, 4x 256kB L2, 10MB L3)
Socket/Slot : FC LGA2011

Chipset
Memory Controller : Gigabyte Core DMI2 (Sandy Bridge-E) 100MHz
Memory Controller : Gigabyte Core (Sandy Bridge-E) Integrated Memory Controller Registers 100MHz, 4x 4GB DIMM DDR3 1.6GHz 256-bit

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : HSD JC199D
(1600x1200, 19.1")
Monitor/Panel : HSD JC199D
(1600x1200, 19.1")
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS (2CU 16SP SM4.1 1.4GHz, 1GB DDR3 1.2GHz 128-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS (2CU 16SP SM4.1 1.4GHz, 1GB DDR3 1.2GHz 128-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor
OpenCL GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS (16SP 2C 1.4GHz, 1GB DDR3 1.2GHz 128-bit)
Compute Shader Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS (16SP 1.4GHz, 1GB DDR3 1.2GHz 128-bit)
CUDA GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS (16SP 2C 1.4GHz, 1GB DDR3 1.2GHz 64-bit)

Storage Devices
WDC WD7502AAEX-00Y9A0 (750.2GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 699GB (D:)
WDC WD7502AAEX-00Y9A0 (750.2GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 699GB (F:)
WDC WD1600ADFS-75SLR2 (160GB, SATA300, 3.5", 10000rpm, 16MB Cache) : 149GB (C:)
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224BB (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (G:)

Logical Storage Devices
Storage (D:) : 699GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD7502AAEX-00Y9A0 (750.2GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm)
Recording (F:) : 699GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD7502AAEX-00Y9A0 (750.2GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm)
Hard Disk (C:) : 149GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD1600ADFS-75SLR2 (160GB, SATA300, 3.5", 10000rpm, 16MB Cache)
Optical Drive (G:) : N/A @ TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224BB (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : Gigabyte Patsburg LPC Controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : T2 87-28
Audio Device : Gigabyte Patsburg High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Device : ASUS High Definition Audio Controller
Serial Port(s) : 1
Disk Controller : Gigabyte Patsburg 6 Port SATA AHCI Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte 91xx SATA 6G Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte 91xx SATA 6G Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte 91xx SATA 6G Controller
USB Controller 1 : Gigabyte Patsburg USB2 Enhanced Host Controller #2
USB Controller 2 : Gigabyte Patsburg USB2 Enhanced Host Controller #1
USB Controller 3 : Gigabyte FL1009 USB 3.0 Host Controller
USB Controller 4 : Gigabyte FL1009 USB 3.0 Host Controller
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : 13330 XIO2213A PCI Express to 1394b OHCI with 3-Port PHY
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel ICH SMBus
SMBus/i2c Controller 2 : Intel SNB-E XMB Ch 0 SMBus
SMBus/i2c Controller 3 : Intel SNB-E XMB Ch 1 SMBus

Printers and Faxes
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Fax : Microsoft Shared Fax Driver (200x200)

Network Services

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Home 6.01.7600
Platform Compliance : x64

Windows Experience Index
Current System : 4.8

[guitardom]

So these DAE -9128 error (CPU running out of power) are crippling me, had to send the band home and if i cant get this straightend out by next week i'll have to hook the old dell back up. Can someone please give me a hand? When im in Pro Tools 9.0.3 and watch my cpu gauge it will randomly shoot up 10% and stop with error 9128. Ive disabled all the speed stepping and turned turbo boost off but no dice. I tried setting everything in bios manually and still same thing. Tried turning off hyperthread and no dice. Im gonna roll back to see if that helps but i seem to remember it doing that from the begining unfortunatly I had the Ignore Errors During Playback/Record box was "checked" instead of "unchecked. Im thinking its something in the bios or something in windows running in the background. I didnt install any software from the gigabyte disk only drivers. Here's my sandra report let me know if you need anymore info
Thanks for any help

SiSoftware Sandra

ID
Host Name : Terry-PC
Workgroup : WORKGROUP

Computer
Model : GigaByte
Serial Number : To be fille***********
Chassis : GigaByte Desktop
Mainboard : GigaByte X79-UD3
Serial Number : To be fille***********
BIOS : AMI (OEM) F11 07/05/2012
Total Memory : 16GB DIMM DDR3

Processors
Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3820 CPU @ 3.60GHz (4C 3.6GHz, 3.6GHz IMC, 4x 256kB L2, 10MB L3)
Socket/Slot : FC LGA2011

Chipset
Memory Controller : Gigabyte Core DMI2 (Sandy Bridge-E) 100MHz
Memory Controller : Gigabyte Core (Sandy Bridge-E) Integrated Memory Controller Registers 100MHz, 4x 4GB DIMM DDR3 1.6GHz 256-bit

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : HSD JC199D
(1600x1200, 19.1")
Monitor/Panel : HSD JC199D
(1600x1200, 19.1")
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS (2CU 16SP SM4.1 1.4GHz, 1GB DDR3 1.2GHz 128-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS (2CU 16SP SM4.1 1.4GHz, 1GB DDR3 1.2GHz 128-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor
OpenCL GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS (16SP 2C 1.4GHz, 1GB DDR3 1.2GHz 128-bit)
Compute Shader Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS (16SP 1.4GHz, 1GB DDR3 1.2GHz 128-bit)
CUDA GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS (16SP 2C 1.4GHz, 1GB DDR3 1.2GHz 64-bit)

Storage Devices
WDC WD7502AAEX-00Y9A0 (750.2GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 699GB (D:)
WDC WD7502AAEX-00Y9A0 (750.2GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 699GB (F:)
WDC WD1600ADFS-75SLR2 (160GB, SATA300, 3.5", 10000rpm, 16MB Cache) : 149GB (C:)
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224BB (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (G:)

Logical Storage Devices
Storage (D:) : 699GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD7502AAEX-00Y9A0 (750.2GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm)
Recording (F:) : 699GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD7502AAEX-00Y9A0 (750.2GB, SATA150, 3.5", 7200rpm)
Hard Disk (C:) : 149GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD1600ADFS-75SLR2 (160GB, SATA300, 3.5", 10000rpm, 16MB Cache)
Optical Drive (G:) : N/A @ TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224BB (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : Gigabyte Patsburg LPC Controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : T2 87-28
Audio Device : Gigabyte Patsburg High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Device : ASUS High Definition Audio Controller
Serial Port(s) : 1
Disk Controller : Gigabyte Patsburg 6 Port SATA AHCI Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte 91xx SATA 6G Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte 91xx SATA 6G Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte 91xx SATA 6G Controller
USB Controller 1 : Gigabyte Patsburg USB2 Enhanced Host Controller #2
USB Controller 2 : Gigabyte Patsburg USB2 Enhanced Host Controller #1
USB Controller 3 : Gigabyte FL1009 USB 3.0 Host Controller
USB Controller 4 : Gigabyte FL1009 USB 3.0 Host Controller
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : 13330 XIO2213A PCI Express to 1394b OHCI with 3-Port PHY
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel ICH SMBus
SMBus/i2c Controller 2 : Intel SNB-E XMB Ch 0 SMBus
SMBus/i2c Controller 3 : Intel SNB-E XMB Ch 1 SMBus

Printers and Faxes
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Fax : Microsoft Shared Fax Driver (200x200)

Network Services

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Home 6.01.7600
Platform Compliance : x64

Windows Experience Index
Current System : 4.8
Did you install the easy tune software??? Hope not!!

Lookup and run the dpc latency tester.

Do you have another video card to try?

Have you turned off most everything in startup??

Antivirus or firewall not shut off??

Have you tested the ram?

[threeholeface]

Did you install the easy tune software??? Hope not!! - Nope just drivers
Lookup and run the dpc latency tester. - will do
Do you have another video card to try? - no unfortunatly
Have you turned off most everything in startup?? - Yes, used msconfig to turn everything off. I tried the Black viper Smart tuning tool, and mykhal's system tweaks but those caused problems (Distorted audio) with my 002R.
Antivirus or firewall not shut off?? - I shut off everything I could
Have you tested the ram? - Not sure how?

[guitardom]

Did you install the easy tune software??? Hope not!! - Nope just drivers
Lookup and run the dpc latency tester. - will do
Do you have another video card to try? - no unfortunatly
Have you turned off most everything in startup?? - Yes, used msconfig to turn everything off. I tried the Black viper Smart tuning tool, and mykhal's system tweaks but those caused problems (Distorted audio) with my 002R.
Antivirus or firewall not shut off?? - I shut off everything I could
Have you tested the ram? - Not sure how?

Did you uninstall the viper tuning tool??? Any other similar tools installed??
Look up memtest. Burn it to a disc from the .iso
The boot into it and will start running tests on ram. It only tests the first dimm slot so pull all the other sticks and swap them out of the first slot.
Do you have aero/desktop composition shutoff??

[threeholeface]

Did you uninstall the viper tuning tool??? Any other similar tools installed?? - No install of viper or any other tuning tools, viper runs standalone no install needed
Look up memtest. Burn it to a disc from the .iso - Will do
Do you have aero/desktop composition shutoff?? - yes

I rolled back to an earlier install point,reinstalled 002R driver and PT 9.0 looks to be running a lot better now so gotta figure out what I changed between this previous point and now. Must be a Win7 setting or a plug-in/program thats causeing it to ramp up and down.

[threeholeface]

I just recorded some guitar with PT9.0 for 20mins with 45 d-verbs and 1 POD farm plug @64 with no issues. Gotta do some more testing but seems like the problem was something i did down the road. I tweaked everything in the bios from auto to manual. Theres a couple of things in the bios i'm not sure about, got any idea what these should be set at?

Advanced CPU Core Features
Internal CPU PLL Overvoltage: Defailt is "auto" I set to "Disabled"
CPU thermal Monitor: Default is "auto" I set to "Disabled"

Advanced Memory settings
Channel Interleaving: Default is "auto" I set to "Enable"
Rank Interleaving: Default is "auto" I set to "Enable"

[mykhal c]

I just recorded some guitar with PT9.0 for 20mins with 45 d-verbs and 1 POD farm plug @64 with no issues. Gotta do some more testing but seems like the problem was something i did down the road. I tweaked everything in the bios from auto to manual. Theres a couple of things in the bios i'm not sure about, got any idea what these should be set at?

Advanced CPU Core Features
Internal CPU PLL Overvoltage: Defailt is "auto" I set to "Disabled"
CPU thermal Monitor: Default is "auto" I set to "Disabled"

Advanced Memory settings
Channel Interleaving: Default is "auto" I set to "Enable"
Rank Interleaving: Default is "auto" I set to "Enable"

do not disable PLL overvoltage or thermal monitor!!;)

[threeholeface]

Thanks mykhal i'll turn them back on. Im gonna take screen shots of bios again, can you take a look and make sure i dont have anything else off that needs to be on? I know your busy but it would help me out greatly maybe others with this same giga board.

[threeholeface]

So everything was running like a champ for the past day and ive been slowly installing plugins and it looks like TL Space is definatly a problem on my system. After install of TL Space 9 my CPU went back to the same issues as before (CPU spikes and DAE -9128 error). Ive got to test some more but just warning people of my issue's cause this has been a nightmare!

[threeholeface]

So far everything is rock solid and performing really well without TL Space, but I did have one random Blue Screen (BOD) when changing buffer from 64 to 1024 in PT's engine. Anyone have that issue? Ive seen a couple of threads of people mentioning it but no definitive answer. Gonna update my Video Driver and test ram/ ram setting(bios)

[albee1952]

So far everything is rock solid and performing really well without TL Space, but I did have one random Blue Screen (BOD) when changing buffer from 64 to 1024 in PT's engine. Anyone have that issue? Ive seen a couple of threads of people mentioning it but no definitive answer. Gonna update my Video Driver and test ram/ ram setting(bios)
TL Space has been weird for me, ever since PT9. I no longer use it(too bad as I really like it). Maybe the next AAX version(if PT11 ever hits) will be okay:rolleyes:

[mykhal c]

So far everything is rock solid and performing really well without TL Space, but I did have one random Blue Screen (BOD) when changing buffer from 64 to 1024 in PT's engine. Anyone have that issue? Ive seen a couple of threads of people mentioning it but no definitive answer. Gonna update my Video Driver and test ram/ ram setting(bios)

make sure you have PT runnin' as 'run as admin'. make sure you change things in an orderly fashion... FWIW i change 1 thing at a time, makin' notes of my changes;) when i have some time i will 'try' to give your bios a look...no promises tho...sorry:o

[threeholeface]

Thanks mykhal I do have PT running as admin. Ive read through this thread a couple of times especially the first pages and followed all of your recomendation, without them this would be an even bigger nightmare. Acronis is a life saver and im installing 1 thing at a time testing, saving, repeat so its going to be a looooonnnng process. I switched everything back to default in bios so if you get a chance to look at my picture settings that would be great but i inderstand if you cant. So far the other issue I've found is my Izotope Ozone being out of date, it worked without issue on my old machine but this one dosent like it for some reason. Do you know of any reason that your screencast tweaks would cause problems with my system? I tried those and would constantly get errors at low buffer settings, went back to save before tweaks and everything was fine. Same thing would happen if I used the SMART utility via blackviper.

[Markmanch]

Ive just built this system for Pro Tools 10, many thanks to all you guys who regularly post on here, couldnt have done it without you!

GA X79 UD3
i7 3820
16GB Corsair Vengeance
Corsair 120GB SSD
Nvidea graphics card
Corsair SSD OS drive 120GB
WD 1TB audio drive
212 EVO
Windows 8

After optimisations etc, Pro Tools is running stable with stock plugins. Around 350 maybe a little more on a quick DVERB test (this seems in the right ball park!??)

I went for the UD3 for the 'legacy' PCI slot on the off chance my old UAD1 card would work. Ive managed to install the software/drivers (V6.1 is the last to support the UAD1 apparently). I just cant seem to get it stable. When I use UAD plugs im getting freezes to the extent that I need to restart. Anyone had any luck with this or know any tips?

It's frustratingly close to working. Ive tryed changing MIN_GNT in UAD prefs to 32 which seemed to help but still getting freezes.

Done as many bios settings as I could find on these posts but is there anything in there that might help the UAD1?

Thanks guys,

Mark

(special thanks to tom@metro , wouldnt have dared do this build without your posts!)

[threeholeface]

Finally figured out what was wrong, my ASUS 8400GS is not compatible with Pro Tools on this motherboard. Win 7 was using a driver on install that would cause CPU spike that would stop playback at low buffer speeds. So stay away from this card! I changed out the card for a Nvidia quadro nvs and everything is rock solid including TL Space and Ozone. Just finished up a weekend session with lots of plugs and recording @ 64 buffer...no hiccups or problems and barely went past 15% usage..couldnt be happier! Still need to tweak system and bios as these are set to default but i might just leave it alone.

[guitardom]

Finally figured out what was wrong, my ASUS 8400GS is not compatible with Pro Tools on this motherboard. Win 7 was using a driver on install that would cause CPU spike that would stop playback at low buffer speeds. So stay away from this card! I changed out the card for a Nvidia quadro nvs and everything is rock solid including TL Space and Ozone. Just finished up a weekend session with lots of plugs and recording @ 64 buffer...no hiccups or problems and barely went past 15% usage..couldnt be happier! Still need to tweak system and bios as these are set to default but i might just leave it alone.

i hit this nail on the head a page or 2 back!!
i had a similar experience with the 9600gt. my case my computer would only occasionally boot and when it did it would bsod. i have a big write up on it on here from a couple months back. there is an obvious problem with the last generation of nvidia cards.

[Zarabozo]

Wow, this thread is still alive. :-)

I had forgotten about it. My last dverb test was on PT 8.0.4 and it feels like a long, long time ago. :D

I'll do a new test on PT 10.3.3, just to compare results. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know what you're thinking, and you're completely right. Slow day at the studio. ;)

Francisco

[mykhal c]

Wow, this thread is still alive. :-)

I had forgotten about it. My last dverb test was on PT 8.0.4 and it feels like a long, long time ago. :D

I'll do a new test on PT 10.3.3, just to compare results. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know what you're thinking, and you're completely right. Slow day at the studio. ;)

Francisco

remember to remove the AAX dverb in order to have PT load the RTAS version... then test...scores are MUCH different between the 2 formats...

[Zarabozo]

remember to remove the AAX dverb in order to have PT load the RTAS version... then test...scores are MUCH different between the 2 formats...

Wow!

I've just found out something very interesting. Note that I'm using the same PC I used for my first test, I was the first one trying a dual hexacore configuration (Intel Xeon X5650 x 2).

Back then, with PT 8, I had to report a bug because PT wasn't seeing all of my cores (it was using only 16 out of 24). So, I disabled multithreading so I would have just 12 cores visible to PT. That worked fine.

Later, when PT 9 came out, they fixed that. I then enabled multithreading again and PT was using all of my 24 cores. I was happy, until (while doing the DVerb test) I discovered that I was scoring more DVerbs with multithreading disabled. This wasn't so crazy since, in some cases, a real core with no multithreading works better than 2 virtual cores from 1 core. So I left multithreading disabled again.

Now that I did the test with PT 10.3.3, I decided to try again with multithreading enabled... to happily find out that this time PT is making much better use of virtual cores!

Back then, I scored 464 dverbs. This time, with multithreading enabled (which wasn't helping me before), I scored 479 Dverbs.

BUT WAIT! :D

When I read your message about disabling the AAX version, I went ahead and did that. I left the RTAS version instead. To my huge surprise, now I was able to score 608 DVerbs! :eek::eek::eek:

This brings sooooooooo many questions...

To begin with:

RTAS has better performance than AAX?
Or is it that the AAX version use more resources because of any new features?
Did Avid really improve the use of processors in PT 10 or something else was different back then?

I don't know, but I'm really happy I had nothing better to do today than trying this test again! :D I got a good percentage of improved performance that I wasn't expecting at all. :D

Francisco

[Zarabozo]

Wow!

I've just found out something very interesting. Note that I'm using the same PC I used for my first test, I was the first one trying a dual hexacore configuration (Intel Xeon X5650 x 2).

Back then, with PT 8, I had to report a bug because PT wasn't seeing all of my cores (it was using only 16 out of 24). So, I disabled multithreading so I would have just 12 cores visible to PT. That worked fine.

Later, when PT 9 came out, they fixed that. I then enabled multithreading again and PT was using all of my 24 cores. I was happy, until (while doing the DVerb test) I discovered that I was scoring more DVerbs with multithreading disabled. This wasn't so crazy since, in some cases, a real core with no multithreading works better than 2 virtual cores from 1 core. So I left multithreading disabled again.

Now that I did the test with PT 10.3.3, I decided to try again with multithreading enabled... to happily find out that this time PT is making much better use of virtual cores!

Back then, I scored 464 dverbs. This time, with multithreading enabled (which wasn't helping me before), I scored 479 Dverbs.

BUT WAIT! :D

When I read your message about disabling the AAX version, I went ahead and did that. I left the RTAS version instead. To my huge surprise, now I was able to score 608 DVerbs! :eek::eek::eek:

This brings sooooooooo many questions...

To begin with:

RTAS has better performance than AAX?
Or is it that the AAX version use more resources because of any new features?
Did Avid really improve the use of processors in PT 10 or something else was different back then?

I don't know, but I'm really happy I had nothing better to do today than trying this test again! :D I got a good percentage of improved performance that I wasn't expecting at all. :D

Francisco

Wait... there's ONE change in this test. Back then I tested using Eleven Rack as playback engine. This time I used the new MBox 3 Pro.

Still, I don't think that has much to do with the new result. I think that Avid actually did something in the code that made PT much more compatible with a dual processor setup.

Man... I'm now SO MUCH MORE interested in replacing my current 2.66 GHz Xeon processors for the best ones my MB supports (I think it's a 3.9 GHz model if I remember right). I'm sure that will improve the performance a lot more. :-)

Now I have to find someone that wants to buy my processors... eBay maybe? :D

Francisco

[YYR123]

remember to remove the AAX dverb in order to have PT load the RTAS version... then test...scores are MUCH different between the 2 formats...

Refresh my memory - verbs in each of the 5 inserts right then duplicate tracks

Then u try to make it crash right ?

Are we trying to playback at all ? Is there a time limit ? Ex if after 5 min no errors add more verbs ??

Thanks I can't remember the last time I ran a verb test maybe 2007 but I am getting the rest of my PC parts for a Hackintosh tomorrow so I will be curious to run some specs on it

[Zarabozo]

Wow!

I've just found out something very interesting. Note that I'm using the same PC I used for my first test, I was the first one trying a dual hexacore configuration (Intel Xeon X5650 x 2).

Back then, with PT 8, I had to report a bug because PT wasn't seeing all of my cores (it was using only 16 out of 24). So, I disabled multithreading so I would have just 12 cores visible to PT. That worked fine.

Later, when PT 9 came out, they fixed that. I then enabled multithreading again and PT was using all of my 24 cores. I was happy, until (while doing the DVerb test) I discovered that I was scoring more DVerbs with multithreading disabled. This wasn't so crazy since, in some cases, a real core with no multithreading works better than 2 virtual cores from 1 core. So I left multithreading disabled again.

Now that I did the test with PT 10.3.3, I decided to try again with multithreading enabled... to happily find out that this time PT is making much better use of virtual cores!

Back then, I scored 464 dverbs. This time, with multithreading enabled (which wasn't helping me before), I scored 479 Dverbs.

BUT WAIT! :D

When I read your message about disabling the AAX version, I went ahead and did that. I left the RTAS version instead. To my huge surprise, now I was able to score 608 DVerbs! :eek::eek::eek:

This brings sooooooooo many questions...

To begin with:

RTAS has better performance than AAX?
Or is it that the AAX version use more resources because of any new features?
Did Avid really improve the use of processors in PT 10 or something else was different back then?

I don't know, but I'm really happy I had nothing better to do today than trying this test again! :D I got a good percentage of improved performance that I wasn't expecting at all. :D

Francisco

Additional result with RTAS: 474 DVerbs @ 128. I also tried @ 64 but that didn't work at all. It supported like 10 DVerbs only, with about 20% CPU with peaks at 100%. That's where the GHz increase becomes necessary.

[mykhal c]

Wow!

I've just found out something very interesting. Note that I'm using the same PC I used for my first test, I was the first one trying a dual hexacore configuration (Intel Xeon X5650 x 2).

Back then, with PT 8, I had to report a bug because PT wasn't seeing all of my cores (it was using only 16 out of 24). So, I disabled multithreading so I would have just 12 cores visible to PT. That worked fine.

Later, when PT 9 came out, they fixed that. I then enabled multithreading again and PT was using all of my 24 cores. I was happy, until (while doing the DVerb test) I discovered that I was scoring more DVerbs with multithreading disabled. This wasn't so crazy since, in some cases, a real core with no multithreading works better than 2 virtual cores from 1 core. So I left multithreading disabled again.

Now that I did the test with PT 10.3.3, I decided to try again with multithreading enabled... to happily find out that this time PT is making much better use of virtual cores!

Back then, I scored 464 dverbs. This time, with multithreading enabled (which wasn't helping me before), I scored 479 Dverbs.

BUT WAIT! :D

When I read your message about disabling the AAX version, I went ahead and did that. I left the RTAS version instead. To my huge surprise, now I was able to score 608 DVerbs! :eek::eek::eek:

This brings sooooooooo many questions...

To begin with:

RTAS has better performance than AAX?
Or is it that the AAX version use more resources because of any new features?
Did Avid really improve the use of processors in PT 10 or something else was different back then?

I don't know, but I'm really happy I had nothing better to do today than trying this test again! :D I got a good percentage of improved performance that I wasn't expecting at all. :D

Francisco

my 'guess' is a lot more resources in AAX version due to its' features...

Additional result with RTAS: 474 DVerbs @ 128. I also tried @ 64 but that didn't work at all. It supported like 10 DVerbs only, with about 20% CPU with peaks at 100%. That's where the GHz increase becomes necessary.

not workin' at 64 buffer???...somethings amiss...:confused:

[CME]

(snip)

Now I have to find someone that wants to buy my processors... eBay maybe? :D

Francisco

What procs are we talking about? I may want one if the price is right. ;)

[jarusumo]

g'day all.

i have just put together a new custom i7 system and all i have done so far is install pro tools LE 8.0.5 no plug ins except what came with the software. i have not recorded any tracks all I am doing to test it is hit the space bar to play. with in a few seconds I get the 6085 error and I am perplexed at what is going wrong. I should point out this happens when the buffer is set to 128. it runs with out error on 256 and higher but I expect I should be able to have it set on 64 if I want and not have an issue.

I have done all optimizations listed for windows 7 but nothing improved. and read a lot of posts on the problem but no solution for my set up :(

here is my sandra report.

P.S I really appreciate everyones input, time and knowledge on this topic :D

Thanks
James

SiSoftware Sandra

ID
Host Name : Jarusumo-PC
Workgroup : WORKGROUP

Computer
Model : GigaByte
Serial Number : To be fille***********
Chassis : GigaByte Desktop
Mainboard : GigaByte X79-UD3
Serial Number : To be fille***********
BIOS : AMI (OEM) F11 07/05/2012
Total Memory : 16GB DIMM DDR3

Processors
Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3820 CPU @ 3.60GHz (4C 8T 3.8GHz, 3.8GHz IMC, 4x 256kB L2, 10MB L3)
Socket/Slot : FC LGA2011

Chipset
Memory Controller : Gigabyte Core DMI2 (Sandy Bridge-E) 100MHz
Memory Controller : Gigabyte Core (Sandy Bridge-E) Integrated Memory Controller Registers 100MHz, 4x 4GB DIMM DDR3 1.33GHz 256-bit

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Corsair CML16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CML16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CML16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CML16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : ACR Acer P241W
(1920x1200, 30.6")
Monitor/Panel : Samsung SMS22A100
(1920x1080, 21.5")
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 (2CU 96SP SM5.0 1.4GHz, 1GB 1.3GHz 64-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 (2CU 96SP SM5.0 1.4GHz, 1GB 1.3GHz 64-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor
OpenCL GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 (96SP 2C 1.4GHz, 1GB 1.3GHz 64-bit)
Compute Shader Processor : NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 (96SP 1.4GHz, 1GB 1.3GHz 64-bit)
CUDA GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 (96SP 2C 1.4GHz, 128kB L2, 1GB 1.3GHz 64-bit)

Storage Devices
WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 932GB (V:) (X:)
Seagate ST3500418AS (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 16MB Cache) : 466GB (C:)
TSSTcorpCDDVDW SH-224BB (SATA, DVD+-RW, CD-RW) : N/A (E:)

Logical Storage Devices
Audio (X:) : 493GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm)
System Reserved : 100MB (NTFS)
Audio 2 (V:) : 438GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm)
Hard Disk (C:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST3500418AS (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 16MB Cache)
Optical Drive (E:) : N/A @ TSSTcorpCDDVDW SH-224BB (SATA, DVD+-RW, CD-RW)

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : Gigabyte Patsburg LPC Controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : T2 87-28
Audio Device : Gigabyte Patsburg High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Device : ASUS GF108 High Definition Audio Controller
Serial Port(s) : 1
Disk Controller : Gigabyte Patsburg 6 Port SATA AHCI Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte 91xx SATA 6G Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte 91xx SATA 6G Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte 91xx SATA 6G Controller
USB Controller 1 : Gigabyte Patsburg USB2 Enhanced Host Controller #2
USB Controller 2 : Gigabyte Patsburg USB2 Enhanced Host Controller #1
USB Controller 3 : Gigabyte FL1009 USB 3.0 Host Controller
USB Controller 4 : Gigabyte FL1009 USB 3.0 Host Controller
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel ICH SMBus
SMBus/i2c Controller 2 : Intel SNB-E XMB Ch 0 SMBus
SMBus/i2c Controller 3 : Intel SNB-E XMB Ch 1 SMBus

Network Services
Network Adapter : Intel(R) 82579V Gigabit Network Connection (Ethernet, 100Mbps)

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.01.7601 (Service Pack 1)
Platform Compliance : x64

Windows Experience Index
Current System : 4.6

[bgronas]

Has anyone else tried your chipset before?
Has anyone else tried your NVIDIA Graphics card before?
Cleared your preferences?
Have you got any external FW disks (unplug them).
Unplug any unused USB devices (webcam, iphone etc)
Got more than one FireWire port? Plug your Mbox' into the other port
check anything FireWire, unplug / disable / reconnect, new cable
Do NOT partition ONE disk into two drives (X: and V:)
Keep the swap\page file on the fastest disk (Sata-600), an not on C:\
Rip out any SSD disks, if any
Unplug one of your monitors, reboot, and try again
Turn of delay compensation in PT
Turn off UAC, Firewall, and set processor scheduling to background services
Uninstall all antivirus software
Stop all unneeded services (almost everything can be stopped!)
Disable Network Adapters


any luck?






g'day all.

i have just put together a new custom i7 system and all i have done so far is install pro tools LE 8.0.5 no plug ins except what came with the software. i have not recorded any tracks all I am doing to test it is hit the space bar to play. with in a few seconds I get the 6085 error and I am perplexed at what is going wrong. I should point out this happens when the buffer is set to 128. it runs with out error on 256 and higher but I expect I should be able to have it set on 64 if I want and not have an issue.

I have done all optimizations listed for windows 7 but nothing improved. and read a lot of posts on the problem but no solution for my set up :(

here is my sandra report.

P.S I really appreciate everyones input, time and knowledge on this topic :D

Thanks
James

SiSoftware Sandra

ID
Host Name : Jarusumo-PC
Workgroup : WORKGROUP

Computer
Model : GigaByte
Serial Number : To be fille***********
Chassis : GigaByte Desktop
Mainboard : GigaByte X79-UD3
Serial Number : To be fille***********
BIOS : AMI (OEM) F11 07/05/2012
Total Memory : 16GB DIMM DDR3

Processors
Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3820 CPU @ 3.60GHz (4C 8T 3.8GHz, 3.8GHz IMC, 4x 256kB L2, 10MB L3)
Socket/Slot : FC LGA2011

Chipset
Memory Controller : Gigabyte Core DMI2 (Sandy Bridge-E) 100MHz
Memory Controller : Gigabyte Core (Sandy Bridge-E) Integrated Memory Controller Registers 100MHz, 4x 4GB DIMM DDR3 1.33GHz 256-bit

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Corsair CML16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CML16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CML16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CML16GX3M4A1600C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : ACR Acer P241W
(1920x1200, 30.6")
Monitor/Panel : Samsung SMS22A100
(1920x1080, 21.5")
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 (2CU 96SP SM5.0 1.4GHz, 1GB 1.3GHz 64-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 (2CU 96SP SM5.0 1.4GHz, 1GB 1.3GHz 64-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor
OpenCL GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 (96SP 2C 1.4GHz, 1GB 1.3GHz 64-bit)
Compute Shader Processor : NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 (96SP 1.4GHz, 1GB 1.3GHz 64-bit)
CUDA GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 (96SP 2C 1.4GHz, 128kB L2, 1GB 1.3GHz 64-bit)

Storage Devices
WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 932GB (V:) (X:)
Seagate ST3500418AS (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 16MB Cache) : 466GB (C:)
TSSTcorpCDDVDW SH-224BB (SATA, DVD+-RW, CD-RW) : N/A (E:)

Logical Storage Devices
Audio (X:) : 493GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm)
System Reserved : 100MB (NTFS)
Audio 2 (V:) : 438GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm)
Hard Disk (C:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST3500418AS (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 16MB Cache)
Optical Drive (E:) : N/A @ TSSTcorpCDDVDW SH-224BB (SATA, DVD+-RW, CD-RW)

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : Gigabyte Patsburg LPC Controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : T2 87-28
Audio Device : Gigabyte Patsburg High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Device : ASUS GF108 High Definition Audio Controller
Serial Port(s) : 1
Disk Controller : Gigabyte Patsburg 6 Port SATA AHCI Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte 91xx SATA 6G Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte 91xx SATA 6G Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte 91xx SATA 6G Controller
USB Controller 1 : Gigabyte Patsburg USB2 Enhanced Host Controller #2
USB Controller 2 : Gigabyte Patsburg USB2 Enhanced Host Controller #1
USB Controller 3 : Gigabyte FL1009 USB 3.0 Host Controller
USB Controller 4 : Gigabyte FL1009 USB 3.0 Host Controller
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel ICH SMBus
SMBus/i2c Controller 2 : Intel SNB-E XMB Ch 0 SMBus
SMBus/i2c Controller 3 : Intel SNB-E XMB Ch 1 SMBus

Network Services
Network Adapter : Intel(R) 82579V Gigabit Network Connection (Ethernet, 100Mbps)

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.01.7601 (Service Pack 1)
Platform Compliance : x64

Windows Experience Index
Current System : 4.6

[jarusumo]

Hi bgronas, thanks for the reply.

I picked the x79 chip set after reading on here people recommend them. but picked gigabyte over the asus one. I am not sure about the nvidia graphics card. it is just a standard card which was one of the cheaper ones.

I have deleted preference folder

the system has no firewire capabilities. the mbox 2 mini is connected to usb 2 port on back of computer. I have tried swapping to other ports.

usb items are 1.mouse 2.key board and 3.speakers for on board audio.

I partitioned the audio drive because I heard information can be transferred faster if the drive is smaller?

my page file is set to managed by windows and the size of the page file is 16333mb. no page files are on the audio drive

no ssd disks

will try unplugging monitor.

don't think I have delay compensation in pro tools LE 8.0.5 if I do, where can I turn it off?

processor is set to background

you mean services in task manager? there seem to be a lot running but I don't know what I need and what I don't

I tried disabling network adapter too but there was no improvement.

thanks again!

[YYR123]

I am doing to test it is hit the space bar to play. with in a few seconds I get the 6085 error and I am perplexed at what is going wrong. I should point out this happens when the buffer is set to 128. it runs with out error on 256 and higher but I expect I should be able to have it set on 64 if I want and not have an issue.

What interface ?

I just bought the X79-UD5 - should be delivered today

You have ur O/S one one drive and recording to another drive right?

That's the way it's needs to be

Your partition won't count for 2 drives b/c it's sharing the bandwidth with the other partition - 16mb is kinda low I prefer 64mb cache at least 32 and I have my lowest drive (lowest cache size) on my O/S

I put my higher cache drives on my target and sample drives

FWIW

[guitardom]

Hi bgronas, thanks for the reply.

I picked the x79 chip set after reading on here people recommend them. but picked gigabyte over the asus one. I am not sure about the nvidia graphics card. it is just a standard card which was one of the cheaper ones.

I have deleted preference folder

the system has no firewire capabilities. the mbox 2 mini is connected to usb 2 port on back of computer. I have tried swapping to other ports.

usb items are 1.mouse 2.key board and 3.speakers for on board audio.

I partitioned the audio drive because I heard information can be transferred faster if the drive is smaller?

my page file is set to managed by windows and the size of the page file is 16333mb. no page files are on the audio drive

no ssd disks

will try unplugging monitor.

don't think I have delay compensation in pro tools LE 8.0.5 if I do, where can I turn it off?

processor is set to background

you mean services in task manager? there seem to be a lot running but I don't know what I need and what I don't

I tried disabling network adapter too but there was no improvement.

thanks again!

Has the ram timings been set manually in the bios or any other bios tweaks??

Any antivirus running or windows defender??

Install the newest vid card drivers.

Correct, you do not have delay compensation in 8.

Your fine partitioning drives as long as you are not using one partition as the OS and recording to the other partition. Should just be another physical drive you are recording to.

turning off aero/desktop composition??

Have a feeling this is OS related and not hardware. Though I would try pulling at least 1 stick of ram (last dimm channel) out, possibly 2.

In my signature is Trasher. Be sure to get the version you need for PT 8.05 (V2), and delete your PT/dae prefs-databases.

[Zarabozo]

What procs are we talking about? I may want one if the price is right. ;)

It's the Intel Xeon X5650. It's almost identical to an Intel i7 hexacore, except for the features that allow you to use 2 processors at the same time, which is impossible with any i7.

If you are going to buy one of these, you really want two of them, not one, unless you plan to buy an identical second one later. You can only use a pair of identical processors and you need a server motherbard with dual processor sockets.

I actually planned to do that when I built this machine. Since I didn't have the money for both processors (and all the RAM, because you need groups of 3 dims of RAM per processor, it must be the same for each one and the ram must be ECC which is expensive), I bought the server motherboard and only 1 processor with 3 dims of RAM (4 GB each one). Once I had more money, I bought the second processor (identical to the first one) and another 3 dims of RAM (exactly the same as before).

Now, if I wanted to put more RAM, I would need 6 extra dims of RAM (3 for each processor), preferently the same exact model and brand as the one I already have.

Regarding the price, it's being sold right now on eBay for a little bit more than $1,000 USD each one. I guess I would post them for arround $800 each to make it fair and quick. :-)

Francisco

[CME]

Thanks. I have a single proc board that supports some of the Xeons but not that one. I do appreciate you responding. I was hoping they were w3690's. ;)

[actualsizeaudio]

Hey everyone. I'm sure the answer is in here somewhere, but I figured I would just ask my question since I can't seem to find an answer to my question:

What is better for higher plug-in count, faster processor, or more cores? I'm trying to decide between laying down the ching for a dual processor Xeon machine, or simply going the route of one of the new i7 6core 2011 processors like the 3930K.

My issue is wanting more plugs, not so much virtual instruments.

Right now I'm running a i7 2600K not over clocked with 16gig Ram.

Thanks guys.

[guitardom]

Hey everyone. I'm sure the answer is in here somewhere, but I figured I would just ask my question since I can't seem to find an answer to my question:

What is better for higher plug-in count, faster processor, or more cores? I'm trying to decide between laying down the ching for a dual processor Xeon machine, or simply going the route of one of the new i7 6core 2011 processors like the 3930K.

My issue is wanting more plugs, not so much virtual instruments.

Right now I'm running a i7 2600K not over clocked with 16gig Ram.

Thanks guys.

Currently the 3930k. There is the x series which are 2 processors that are above the 3930k. They require water cooling and are basically 2x's the cost. But any of these will oc like champs on top of it. PT at this point is not properly utilizing multi processor systems. Sure this will change w 11. Also w PT still at 32 bit, you can still hit your ram wall w plugins and bring your system to a hault.

[actualsizeaudio]

Currently the 3930k. There is the x series which are 2 processors that are above the 3930k. They require water cooling and are basically 2x's the cost. But any of these will oc like champs on top of it. PT at this point is not properly utilizing multi processor systems. Sure this will change w 11. Also w PT still at 32 bit, you can still hit your ram wall w plugins and bring your system to a hault.

Cool, I was strongly considering the 3930K.

With 16gig of ram, if I'm keeping my RAM disk cache too high, then could that be causing an issue with plug-ins running out of RAM? I never thought of plugs being dependent on RAM. I often have the disk cache set at 10 or 12 gigs.

Thanks for the input.

[mykhal c]

Currently the 3930k. There is the x series which are 2 processors that are above the 3930k. They require water cooling and are basically 2x's the cost. But any of these will oc like champs on top of it. PT at this point is not properly utilizing multi processor systems. Sure this will change w 11. Also w PT still at 32 bit, you can still hit your ram wall w plugins and bring your system to a hault.

i'm sure PT11 will bring about even better core usage but it ain't too bad right now. once i unparked my cores the load was then evenly spread across all cores, physical and virtual. if you don't unpark the cores then the load will always go to the physical cores first. i've yet to run any tests to see which is actually more efficient for PT.

[guitardom]

Cool, I was strongly considering the 3930K.

With 16gig of ram, if I'm keeping my RAM disk cache too high, then could that be causing an issue with plug-ins running out of RAM? I never thought of plugs being dependent on RAM. I often have the disk cache set at 10 or 12 gigs.

Thanks for the input.

Yes plugins take a certain amount of ram. Some far more than others. Disk cache is not going to affect what you have available to the system, PT, and plugins as the available cache amount is 4gb under your total for exactly that reason. If you are running vi's they will eat up your ram really fast and bog your system down.

[guitardom]

i'm sure PT11 will bring about even better core usage but it ain't too bad right now. once i unparked my cores the load was then evenly spread across all cores, physical and virtual. if you don't unpark the cores then the load will always go to the physical cores first. i've yet to run any tests to see which is actually more efficient for PT.

If I remember right I was not really seeing any improvements when I unparked the cores. There is some definite improvements in this regard I would expect to see.

[TOM@METRO]

This is unscientific, but unparking cores seemed to add stability with iffy situations. I have the cores unparked now and will probably leave them this way.

[mykhal c]

i guess i was just lookin' for one thing at the time...workload allocation across all cores....the rest would show itself durin' daily usage. my rig is extremely stable and performs very well...luv'n it:D

[Markmanch]

Out of curiosity I 'unparked' the cores of my 3820 with a 'Coder Bag' utility and cant believe the improvement. Not only have I reached a higher score on a dverb test but some issues Ive been having using my UAD1 also seem to be solved. Its too early to say for sure but it's certainly improved the stability for me.



GA-X79-UD3
i7 3820
16gb Corsair Vengeance
SSD OS drive
500gb WD black
Windows 8
Pro Tools 10
UAD1

[kyluigi]

Hey Guys pricing out a system here on newegg. I should mention this will be my first build but I am fairly computer savvy and have some friends if I need help. I am considering building one because an i7 mac that I would like is just too expensive even used. My new studio computer will run PT10 with either a focusrite saffire pro 40 or a comparable 8 channel interface. Here is my build right now. The 500gb will be the system drive and the 1tb will be my recording drive. There is enough space for more drives should I need them in the future. Anyone see any potential problems with pro tools? With shipping these parts price out to $1272 ish. Anyone see anyways I could cut corners and still have good performance for a prosumer studio? question: will I need a T.I. pci firewire card or can I just use the onboard firewire?

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Western Digital WD Black WD5003AZEX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS GT610-2GD3-CSM GeForce GT 610 2GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power ...

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10B

ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73820

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM

[CME]

I'm no windows guru, but don't forget the hackintosh option, if that interests you. But most if all get an SSD for your system drive (whichever OS you choose) and thank me later.

[YYR123]

But most if all get an SSD for your system drive (whichever OS you choose) and thank me later.

Yes sir, do what the man suggests

[kyluigi]

If I'm using a FireWire interface though guys will I need I get a TI pci card or can I use the inboard FireWire from the x79?

[YYR123]

If I'm using a FireWire interface though guys will I need I get a TI pci card or can I use the inboard FireWire from the x79?

Via are not recommended buuuut may work for you depending on ur interface - I was using one b/F and it was fine but ymmv - as always if its a problem u can get one later or if u don't want to mess w/it just order the card it's only like $30 dollars if I remember

[Joshua3189]

hello everyone...
i will be building my first custom pc and was hoping to just get a quick approval of the parts i am purchasing. i basically copied from other set ups and tried to go somewhat budget without a compromise in performance. i figure this set up will exceed my needs for the type of sessions i do but i am tired of "not enough cpu power" !!

so here is my potential set up..

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

ASUS 8400GS-SL-512MD3-L GeForce 8400 GS 512MB 32-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card

Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W Continuous power supply

CORSAIR Vengeance 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73820

Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

i will probably be running windows 7, with protools 9, with an mbox 2


thanks so much for your time guys... let me know if there are any apparent conflicts here or if it looks good to go.. also if i am missing anything? for example is a cooling fan necessary?

[albee1952]

hello everyone...
i will be building my first custom pc and was hoping to just get a quick approval of the parts i am purchasing. i basically copied from other set ups and tried to go somewhat budget without a compromise in performance. i figure this set up will exceed my needs for the type of sessions i do but i am tired of "not enough cpu power" !!

so here is my potential set up..

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

ASUS 8400GS-SL-512MD3-L GeForce 8400 GS 512MB 32-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card

Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W Continuous power supply

CORSAIR Vengeance 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73820

Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

i will probably be running windows 7, with protools 9, with an mbox 2


thanks so much for your time guys... let me know if there are any apparent conflicts here or if it looks good to go.. also if i am missing anything? for example is a cooling fan necessary?
Wrong RAM. The X79 mobo's run quad-channel RAM and that requires 4(or 8) matching sticks(16GB or 32GB). Choose your RAM from the mobo manufacturer's website list of approved RAM, and get a 4 stick kit. All else looks good to me:D

[Joshua3189]

thanks albee!
couldnt find the approved ram list... but saw that some users here had the same motherboard with the 4x4 corsair vengeance 16gb pack so went ahead and just got that. thanks again!

[mykhal c]

also if i am missing anything? for example is a cooling fan necessary?

yes...heat sink and cooling fan are needed;) good luck

[guitardom]

hello everyone...
i will be building my first custom pc and was hoping to just get a quick approval of the parts i am purchasing. i basically copied from other set ups and tried to go somewhat budget without a compromise in performance. i figure this set up will exceed my needs for the type of sessions i do but i am tired of "not enough cpu power" !!

so here is my potential set up..

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

ASUS 8400GS-SL-512MD3-L GeForce 8400 GS 512MB 32-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card

Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W Continuous power supply

CORSAIR Vengeance 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73820

Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

i will probably be running windows 7, with protools 9, with an mbox 2


thanks so much for your time guys... let me know if there are any apparent conflicts here or if it looks good to go.. also if i am missing anything? for example is a cooling fan necessary?
About 3-4 pages back is a guy who's system was unstable and problematic due to the nvidia 8400 GS video card. I had similar results with a 9600gt. I would say change your vid card to a 620 or something more current than the 8400..

[mykhal c]

FWIW...did another dverb test...compared 10 procs @99% vs 12 procs @85...10 @99% yielded better performance by about 15 verbs...pretty significant;)

[YYR123]

FWIW...did another dverb test...compared 10 procs @99% vs 12 procs @85...10 @99% yielded better performance by about 15 verbs...pretty significant;)

You have the i7-3930k also right ?

I just got mine running haven't made the time to spec it yet - too many projects I need to work on and haven't done anything for awhile

I was wondering about that core count -
I have mine running at 5 @99 and its already very significant the power difference - perhaps now I will be able to run VCC Across all my channels now - (that one is such a Hog)

I thought we were supposed to disable hyper threading at the bios level ?

I haven't worked with it enough to notice any problems yet

[YYR123]

GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard


Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

The x79 really nice board - I was really pleased

On another note has anyone noticed how Much louder the WD hard drives are than a Seagate??

It's either this drive is about to go out (I only have oneWD) or they are REALLY noisy

Sounds like one of those 5.25" old floppy drives when it starts seeking for data !!!! Yeah that bad - but both my SG's are quite as mice

[mykhal c]

You have the i7-3930k also right ?

I just got mine running haven't made the time to spec it yet - too many projects I need to work on and haven't done anything for awhile

I was wondering about that core count -
I have mine running at 5 @99 and its already very significant the power difference - perhaps now I will be able to run VCC Across all my channels now - (that one is such a Hog)

I thought we were supposed to disable hyper threading at the bios level ?

I haven't worked with it enough to notice any problems yet

in my testing, enablin' HT showed noticeable/significant performance gains for PT.

[CME]

Any hard drive making considerable (really any) noise would worry me.

And I believe for most systems hyper-threading would be beneficial. If after enabling it your system becomes unstable it's easy enough to turn back off. ;)

[TOM@METRO]

As Mykhal has said, you will see a definite increase in CPU power with Hyperthreading enabled, however I have seen cases (especially with marginal plug-ins) where disabling it can be beneficial (stability wise).

[YYR123]

To be Honest....I assume its on b/c I have 12 cores in the playback engine but I dont' remember seing that option in BIOS.

[albee1952]

Regarding Hyperthreading and assigning fewer cores, treat that on a case by case basis. I also find Hyperthreading ON gives better performance, but I also have ALL 8(i7 quad) cores selected in Pro Tools and, for this setup, it works best. When I build my 6 core(can't wait:p), I will start off with all 12 cores selected and test from there:D BTW, Core Parking is something to look at. I just checked my rig and found 2 or the 4 cores had parking enabled:eek:

[YYR123]

I don't think u park cores in OSX right?

I know I disabled core parking on a work laptop before running win7

[Tracy Lowery]

FWIW...did another dverb test...compared 10 procs @99% vs 12 procs @85...10 @99% yielded better performance by about 15 verbs...pretty significant;)


Hey Guys, Just giv'n a shout to Mykhal....I Just built a solid
Asus x79 Saber/3930k...running smooth.....thanks for all your help bro!!! Speaking to your quote I just got got my overall best result with 11 procs @95% went from 528 to 557 dverbs. I do not have cores parked...... but I checked during test in and none were parked.

Killer Machine...a beast:-)

[mykhal c]

Hey Guys, Just giv'n a shout to Mykhal....I Just built a solid
Asus x79 Saber/3930k...running smooth.....thanks for all your help bro!!! Speaking to your quote I just got got my overall best result with 11 procs @95% went from 528 to 557 dverbs. I do not have cores parked...... but I checked during test in and none were parked.

Killer Machine...a beast:-)

NICE!!! and yep...it's a beast:D gotta credit Tom for plantin' the seed of 3930 instead of 3820...well that and the temp price drop over the holidays!!:D

[YYR123]

I haven't tested mine yet fully but - its a major upgrade compared to my 8 core harpertown

GA-X79-UD5 / i7-3930k /sata3 6gb transfer rates / rockin sockem jockem

[mykhal c]

well SuperBowl tweaks...probably let rig sit here for awhile...as long as i like temps...so...

600 dverbs...4.0ghz...11procs@99%....1024 buffer...temps at full load 45-52c...idle @32-38c...ram is underclocked due to how i set BCLK strap...set @2000 instead of 2133....timings 10-10-10-27 instead of 11-11-11-30...STOKED!!!:D

[TOM@METRO]

well superbowl tweaks...probably let rig sit here for awhile...as long as i like temps...so...

600 dverbs...4.0ghz...11procs@99%....1024 buffer...temps at full load 45-52c...idle @32-38c...ram is underclocked due to how i set bclk strap...set @2000 instead of 2133....timings 10-10-10-27 instead of 11-11-11-30...stoked!!!:d
Wow!!

[pavkovlr]

Hi guys, been reading this thread from pretty far back, lots of good information. I'm looking to build a PC in the next couple weeks for home recording. I have PT M-Powered 8 running on an HP laptop right now (i3, 4gb RAM) which just isn't cutting it. Up until now I thought I would be fine going with the i5 ivy bridge 3570k, 12-16gb RAM, an SSD... Has anyone had any experience with this processor?

By the sounds of it, a lot of you guys with the i7 3930k's are running full-on recording studios. The most I can see myself getting into is a session with up to 50 tracks with a few VI's potentially and adequate plug-ins.

Any thoughts/suggestions for my upcoming build would be awesome!

[albee1952]

Hi guys, been reading this thread from pretty far back, lots of good information. I'm looking to build a PC in the next couple weeks for home recording. I have PT M-Powered 8 running on an HP laptop right now (i3, 4gb RAM) which just isn't cutting it. Up until now I thought I would be fine going with the i5 ivy bridge 3570k, 12-16gb RAM, an SSD... Has anyone had any experience with this processor?

By the sounds of it, a lot of you guys with the i7 3930k's are running full-on recording studios. The most I can see myself getting into is a session with up to 50 tracks with a few VI's potentially and adequate plug-ins.

Any thoughts/suggestions for my upcoming build would be awesome!
My 2 cents only here, but regarding the i5, I say NO< NO...HELL NO!!! I have built 7 Pro Tools computers over the last 8 years and the i5 was the worst experience of them all. When I build my next rig, it will be the 6 core i7(unless something newer and better comes along). Now I understand cash can be tight, so here's 2 suggestions. The socket 2011 i7 quad(3820), X79 motherboard and 16GB of quad-channel RAM. With a proper setup, that WILL deliver the goods, plain and simple. If that's too expensive, then I recommend a socket 1366/X58 setup with triple channel RAM. I found an Intel i7 950 on eBay(item number 321060756239) and there are plenty of X58 motherboards available, both new and used. Add 3 matching sticks of RAM(3x2 or 3x4GB) and you will have a hard working system. Socket 1155 and 1156 are a crapshoot, unless you can copy a proven solid setup. (BTW, that eBay seller is including 6GB of RAM).

Remember, this is all my 2 cents only:D More opinions are always recommended:o

[YYR123]

Yeah go for the i7's at least - you will use that extra power

[TOM@METRO]

Hi guys, been reading this thread from pretty far back, lots of good information. I'm looking to build a PC in the next couple weeks for home recording. I have PT M-Powered 8 running on an HP laptop right now (i3, 4gb RAM) which just isn't cutting it. Up until now I thought I would be fine going with the i5 ivy bridge 3570k, 12-16gb RAM, an SSD... Has anyone had any experience with this processor?

By the sounds of it, a lot of you guys with the i7 3930k's are running full-on recording studios. The most I can see myself getting into is a session with up to 50 tracks with a few VI's potentially and adequate plug-ins.

Any thoughts/suggestions for my upcoming build would be awesome!

Definately go with a socket 2011 system.

[pavkovlr]

Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it. Looking at a system based around the i7 3820 now, seems to be what is working for a lot of people.

I've got another question that maybe someone can inform me on.. I'm thinking about getting an SSD. How would that work with a PT system? Would I install PT onto the SSD along with my OS and record/playback to/from a separate drive? I have a 2TB HDD external already (eSata connectivity), but would it be better (faster) to record to a separate internal HDD?

Thanks again.

[albee1952]

Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it. Looking at a system based around the i7 3820 now, seems to be what is working for a lot of people.

I've got another question that maybe someone can inform me on.. I'm thinking about getting an SSD. How would that work with a PT system? Would I install PT onto the SSD along with my OS and record/playback to/from a separate drive? I have a 2TB HDD external already (eSata connectivity), but would it be better (faster) to record to a separate internal HDD?

Thanks again.
Re. the SSD, yes, it makes a great system drive(and Pro Tools would be installed to it as the C: drive). You should ALWAYS record to a separate drive(and NEVER to a partition of the system drive). To get the best performance from an SSD, you need to have all settings and drivers done right(I have read lots of happy stories of blistering performance, but my own experience has been disappointing as I cannot seem to get the darn thing setup correctly).

Any eSATA drive, should deliver the same performance as an internal SATA drive(giving the same drive specs). As long as its 7200 rpm, and NOT a so-called "green" drive, it should do fine("green" drives have power management features that make them a bad choice for recording). My personal choice is to work on internal SATA drives and then backup sessions to my external drives:D I have my 4 internal drives all mounted in a 4 slot SATA drive cage so I can pull and swap drives quick and easy. If you have repeat clients(assuming a studio for hire) you could have the client buy their own raw drive so it gets nothing but their projects(but you should always back those sessions up until they are done, payed for and delivered.

[pavkovlr]

Thanks albee, no clients (yet!) but hopefully in the future! Doing my own personal recording/learning for now and we'll see where it takes me!

What internal HDD would you recommend? I read somewhere that the Western Digital Caviar Black drives work well with Pro Tools.

[albee1952]

Thanks albee, no clients (yet!) but hopefully in the future! Doing my own personal recording/learning for now and we'll see where it takes me!

What internal HDD would you recommend? I read somewhere that the Western Digital Caviar Black drives work well with Pro Tools.
That's the one I recommend. Check the Buy&Sell section as I posted a coupon code for Tiger Direct earlier today(1TB Caviar Black for $89):D

[pavkovlr]

Thanks, must've already been used though, says coupon couldn't be verified :( oh well

[albee1952]

Boooo.....I thought they were good for a few days, not just once! Sorry(but sign up for their mailing list and catch the next sale)

[Trainwrecker]

Started my i-7 Ivy bridge build this weekend. 3770K with a gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H mobo, closed loop water cooler. So far after burning in and stressing it for a hours, I have had no issues with PT10.2/W764 (none) using...the Intel 4000 video and... the Via Firewire with a Focusrite LS56. I need more time to really hit the system and see what shakes. I have a backup X58 rig if things go south. So far I have tested @ 4.5 o/c and have no lockups. I am tempted to install W8 and really go off the grid.:D

I have to say that this is probably not the way to travel :p. This thread is the tested and tried way to go with building a machine for PT. There has been a lot of hard work and time invested in this thread. Use the resources!

[pavkovlr]

Trainwrecker, that's funny, I also built my system this weekend. Despite being given advice from a few people here on this thread, I went against the grain and went for the i7 3770k rig instead of the i7 3820. This was for a few reasons:

1) I liked the idea of the on-board graphics on this CPU as I didn't have to buy a graphics card.
2) The LGA 1155 motherboards were much cheaper in general than the LGA 2011's.
3) Though this is my first PC build and I've never overclocked a CPU before, I liked the idea of having a chip with overclocking capability. (And the i7 3930k was out of my budget)

I'm happy to say that I have Pro Tools M-Powered 8.0.5 running smoothly on Windows 8 except for one problem. When I click on PT to start it up, it sometimes stalls and won't start loading until I open up the task manager.. Somehow by opening the task manager it gives it a little kick start.. But after that, it loads fine and I don't run into any other problems. Have any others had this kind of problem?

Here are the main parts I went with:

i7 3770k CPU
Asus P8Z77-V LE Plus
Corsair Vengeance 4x4GB|16GB RAM
Intel 520 Series 120 GB SSD
Windows 8

I still have to pick up a couple of HDD for general storage and as my record/playback drive. For now I'm recording to my external HDD (eSata).

[guitardom]

Trainwrecker, that's funny, I also built my system this weekend. Despite being given advice from a few people here on this thread, I went against the grain and went for the i7 3770k rig instead of the i7 3820. This was for a few reasons:

1) I liked the idea of the on-board graphics on this CPU as I didn't have to buy a graphics card.
2) The LGA 1155 motherboards were much cheaper in general than the LGA 2011's.
3) Though this is my first PC build and I've never overclocked a CPU before, I liked the idea of having a chip with overclocking capability. (And the i7 3930k was out of my budget)

I'm happy to say that I have Pro Tools M-Powered 8.0.5 running smoothly on Windows 8 except for one problem. When I click on PT to start it up, it sometimes stalls and won't start loading until I open up the task manager.. Somehow by opening the task manager it gives it a little kick start.. But after that, it loads fine and I don't run into any other problems. Have any others had this kind of problem?

Here are the main parts I went with:

i7 3770k CPU
Asus P8Z77-V LE Plus
Corsair Vengeance 4x4GB|16GB RAM
Intel 520 Series 120 GB SSD
Windows 8

I still have to pick up a couple of HDD for general storage and as my record/playback drive. For now I'm recording to my external HDD (eSata).

The onboard graphics is the biggest reason these processors have been avoided. they give unreliable results. sometimes they work, sometimes they dont. sometimes they work with problems, sometimes w/o problems.

[albee1952]

The onboard graphics is the biggest reason these processors have been avoided. they give unreliable results. sometimes they work, sometimes they dont. sometimes they work with problems, sometimes w/o problems.
Yes indeed. And Windows 8 is not approved(although some have it working after some trickery). You listed an SSD, so can we assume you already have a separate recording drive(you NEED one)?

[pavkovlr]

Well, PT booted up fine for me today, no start up issues and no other issues at all. And yes I mentioned in my first post that I'm recording to my external HDD at the moment until I pick up a couple of internal drives.

FYI I didn't have to do anything extra to get it running on Win 8.

[albee1952]

Well, PT booted up fine for me today, no start up issues and no other issues at all. And yes I mentioned in my first post that I'm recording to my external HDD at the moment until I pick up a couple of internal drives.

FYI I didn't have to do anything extra to get it running on Win 8.
Your a lucky one! Now save a drive image:D

[tonepad]

Finally getting a minute to post my recent I7 Win7 PT 10.3.3 build...how quaint that this is still a PTLE thread ;}= Heeding the advice of the community here and smiling big time. This is without doubt the best and most powerful PT related Wintel rig I've ever had:


MEM: 4Gx4 CORSAIR CML16GX3M4A1600C9
PSU: ROSEWILL RG630-S12 630W
CPU COOLER: CoolerMaster RR-212E-20PK-R2
HD: 1TB WD 7K 64M SATAIII WD1002FAEX (session drive)
MB: ASUS SABERTOOTH X79 X79 LGA2011
CPU: INTEL CORE I7 3930K 3.2G 12MB cache
CASE: COOLER MASTER Silencio RC-450-KKN1
Samsung 24x DVD drive
Boot Drive 1: Seagate 500 GB 7200 (on hand item)
Boot Drive 2: OCZ Sata6 SSD (on hand item)


GPU: Galaxy Nvidia GT 640 1GB (though I started with a fanless Nvidia older rev GPU) this upgrade puts an entry level Kepler board in the rig, so far I like it a lot and even with fan it adds no noise to a very quiet build. This is serious competition for the MacPro dual Xeon sitting in the iso box next to it.

[YYR123]

This is serious competition for the MacPro dual Xeon sitting in the iso box next to it.

Ouch - ur making Steve jobs roll over in his grave man !!! :D

[mykhal c]

Finally getting a minute to post my recent I7 Win7 PT 10.3.3 build...how quaint that this is still a PTLE thread ;}= Heeding the advice of the community here and smiling big time. This is without doubt the best and most powerful PT related Wintel rig I've ever had:


MEM: 4Gx4 CORSAIR CML16GX3M4A1600C9
PSU: ROSEWILL RG630-S12 630W
CPU COOLER: CoolerMaster RR-212E-20PK-R2
HD: 1TB WD 7K 64M SATAIII WD1002FAEX (session drive)
MB: ASUS SABERTOOTH X79 X79 LGA2011
CPU: INTEL CORE I7 3930K 3.2G 12MB cache
CASE: COOLER MASTER Silencio RC-450-KKN1
Samsung 24x DVD drive
Boot Drive 1: Seagate 500 GB 7200 (on hand item)
Boot Drive 2: OCZ Sata6 SSD (on hand item)


GPU: Galaxy Nvidia GT 640 1GB (though I started with a fanless Nvidia older rev GPU) this upgrade puts an entry level Kepler board in the rig, so far I like it a lot and even with fan it adds no noise to a very quiet build. This is serious competition for the MacPro dual Xeon sitting in the iso box next to it.

SWEETTT!!! we'll have to start a 3930k club in a minute!!!:D and i think you meant that dual Xeon Mac is tryin' its' best to hang!!!:eek::D

[TOM@METRO]

SWEETTT!!! we'll have to start a 3930k club in a minute!!!
Do we get Tees? :cool:

[YYR123]

For a 500 dollar CPU u would think they would have been included :p

[TOM@METRO]

For a 500 dollar CPU u would think they would have been included :p
I paid $599. for mine. :eek:

[tonepad]

Awesome does carry a price...along with the club dues.

While I'm at it more intel on my fresh build:

UAD2 Quad and Solo cards in place

Rig runs native via Firewire (just the X79 onboard) to a Tascam DM4800 with it's IF/FW option card. Love my DM...currently run 3 seperate PT rigs into it. This PC (FW) MAcPro (10.8.2) with PT HDX (10.3.3) to HD 8x8x8 i/o to DM via TDIF...PT9.0.6 HD same MP, SL 10.6.8 boot drive using 003 rack to DM via ADAT. I can run any 2 of these rigs at the same time. Could be all 3 if I had a 3rd comp. Maybe when I get my Hackintosh built. :cool:

I'll have to find some D-Verb test time for you Geeks, since I know how much boat floating that brings ;}=

[mykhal c]

Do we get Tees? :cool:

tees, caps, tattoos!!!:eek::D

[mykhal c]

Awesome does carry a price...along with the club dues.

While I'm at it more intel on my fresh build:

UAD2 Quad and Solo cards in place

Rig runs native via Firewire (just the X79 onboard) to a Tascam DM4800 with it's IF/FW option card. Love my DM...currently run 3 seperate PT rigs into it. This PC (FW) MAcPro (10.8.2) with PT HDX (10.3.3) to HD 8x8x8 i/o to DM via TDIF...PT9.0.6 HD same MP, SL 10.6.8 boot drive using 003 rack to DM via ADAT. I can run any 2 of these rigs at the same time. Could be all 3 if I had a 3rd comp. Maybe when I get my Hackintosh built. :cool:

I'll have to find some D-Verb test time for you Geeks, since I know how much boat floating that brings ;}=

man...very slick setup!!! how does 2 rigs handle the faders?? bank assignments to each rig?

[tonepad]

man...very slick setup!!! how does 2 rigs handle the faders?? bank assignments to each rig?

Good question. I use the DM4800 as a controller for the MacPro rig...PT sees Tascam's 3 groups of 8 faders via USB in peripherals prefs, and of course those can be banked as needed. I do my Foley and Loop Group pre dubs with that rig. On the PC side I actually use an Avid Artist which is just enough to do my Guitar based music pieces...(shameless plug, see my Soundcloud link). I've thought about trying a USB switcher to select one or the other, but have never found the unit to do that with. I like the size of the Artist which sits on a little sidecar that I can move in and out of position. Of course the DM4800 would give me 24 faders wide which would be nice for music mixes but for now it's still a back burner idea.

[Paul_Cantor]

My old quad-core system crapped out on me 2 weeks ago. Wouldn't power up, basically. Was pressed for time so brought it in somewhere to be checked out. Apparently the motherboard had gone on it. Pretty disappointed. But up until recently-- when the cpu cooler went on it-- the system was rock solid. I had to temporarily put the original cpu cooler on it and maybe that's what did it. That was a very weak cooler. I don't know.

Anyway, make a long story short, I just ordered new parts so for my i7 build. Will obviously update as things get up and running. For now I imagine I will stick with Pro Tools 8.5

system:

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K- $569.99

ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard- $329.99

SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)- $229.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit- $139.99

Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive- $109.99

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9- $104.99

ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED- $76.99

Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W Continuous @40°C,80 PLUS Certified, Single 12V Rail, Active PFC "Compatible with Core i7,i5" Power Supply- $59.99

ASUS 8400GS-SL-1GD3-L GeForce 8400 GS 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card- $34.99

LIAN LI PC-7B plus II Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case --$99.99

with a few other knick-knacks the total came out around $1850.

This is a much more expensive system than the q9550 + p5q deluxe that I put together at the end of 2008. More than double the price, actually. So hopefully this thing really smokes.

[TOM@METRO]

Congrats Paul, I think you will be happy.

[YYR123]

Oh that's really nice - u will be pleased - boot time is crazy fast with that SSD - I have the 128GB version

[albee1952]

To Paul, What's the AMP rating on that PSU's single 12V rail? Hope its over 50:o. You could save $120 by going with a conventional system drive:rolleyes:. I know others are raving about SSD, but its been a disappointment here(Samsung 830). Boot times are identical and Pro Tools opens slightly SLOWER with the SSD. Maybe I made a bad choice, or maybe its not setup correctly(and I'm ripping hair out over that). Device Manager shows ALL my drives as ATA(they are all SATA). BIOS is set to AHCI. The samsung utility says the drive is operating AHCI, but this guy ain't happy with it:confused:

[mykhal c]

To Paul, What's the AMP rating on that PSU's single 12V rail? Hope its over 50:o. You could save $120 by going with a conventional system drive:rolleyes:. I know others are raving about SSD, but its been a disappointment here(Samsung 830). Boot times are identical and Pro Tools opens slightly SLOWER with the SSD. Maybe I made a bad choice, or maybe its not setup correctly(and I'm ripping hair out over that). Device Manager shows ALL my drives as ATA(they are all SATA). BIOS is set to AHCI. The samsung utility says the drive is operating AHCI, but this guy ain't happy with it:confused:

yo Dave...did you use the 6.0Gbs cables on your SSD? here's a good read on the NAND cell structure...avoid the SLC structure for these builds.;)
http://www.micron.com/products/nand-flash/tlc-mlc-and-slc-devices

[albee1952]

yo Dave...did you use the 6.0Gbs cables on your SSD? here's a good read on the NAND cell structure...avoid the SLC structure for these builds.;)
http://www.micron.com/products/nand-flash/tlc-mlc-and-slc-devices
Darn good question on the cable. How do I tell the cables apart?(thought all SATA cable was the same.....DOH!). This drive should be MLC.

[YYR123]

Cable should say 6gb on it and u should connect it to the 6gb sata connection on the mobo

It will amaze u at first - after awhile it's a normal thing but it blew me away

As far as PT boot times idk I am just talking about ur O/S

[tonepad]

The Sata 6 cables supplied with the Asus x79 Sabertooth MB have white ends and spec'd as such. Dunno if that's the case on the parts market. Quite frankly my OCZ SSD booted in about the same time...30 seconds...even on my older i7 rig with the older Sata spec. PT initial boot doesn't seem to benefit from SSD, but W7 booting in 30 secs is fantastic. It's def the way to go on Wintel builds. My Macs have always booted faster so I've never tried one there.

[mykhal c]

the i7 3930k build i did for a buddy of mine also goes online whereas mine doesn't. thanks to Tom pointin' me in the right direction...by includin' the plugins folder and PT.exe in the MS Essentials exclusion folder, the startup for PT improved 1000%...seriously...from a minute plus down to less than 15 secs;)

[CME]

I'm a Mac and hackintosh guy. ;) I've even toyed with the idea of buying windows. But if you're not seeing an improvement with an SSD something else is amiss. I've swapped every system on my house (including my wife's vista laptop) to an SSD and all saw a dramatic difference. The vista laptop being the one that saw the least difference. But it's vista. And I can't convince her to upgrade to w8 lol.

[Trainwrecker]

I'm a Mac and hackintosh guy. ;) I've even toyed with the idea of buying windows. But if you're not seeing an improvement with an SSD something else is amiss. I've swapped every system on my house (including my wife's vista laptop) to an SSD and all saw a dramatic difference. The vista laptop being the one that saw the least difference. But it's vista. And I can't convince her to upgrade to w8 lol.

PT loads at least 3x's faster with my SSD's. The platter drives like the WD Black have a read rate of about 80 :confused:the SSD I installed on my Ivy3770K benches in the 400's. How can you not see a difference? Platter Drives are for backup and storage. SSD's are for production.

Why would you pay all that premium for an X58 system and cripple it with a platter drive? Makes zero sense.

[Paul_Cantor]

To Paul, What's the AMP rating on that PSU's single 12V rail? Hope its over 50:o. You could save $120 by going with a conventional system drive:rolleyes:. I know others are raving about SSD, but its been a disappointment here(Samsung 830). Boot times are identical and Pro Tools opens slightly SLOWER with the SSD. Maybe I made a bad choice, or maybe its not setup correctly(and I'm ripping hair out over that). Device Manager shows ALL my drives as ATA(they are all SATA). BIOS is set to AHCI. The samsung utility says the drive is operating AHCI, but this guy ain't happy with it:confused:

I'm not sure. I'm basically jumping in the SSD pool due to everyone's raving about it. Is it worth another 100 bucks just to check out? Potentially. We'll see though.

What's the verdict on recording to an SSD drive though? Advisable or no?

[YYR123]

What's the verdict on recording to an SSD drive though? Advisable or no?

No not yet - Avid hasn't said that that is qualified yet

[YYR123]

How can you not see a difference?

You ask so we will state it again - by connecting it with a 3gb/s cable and or connecting it to a sata-2 header on the mobo

[albee1952]

I'm in the white SATA port on the mobo, but every cable I have(red and blue) all say nothing but SATA on them. Guess maybe I need to buy a specific cable....
so if I buy a SATA6 cable, is it backwards compatible(will it work fine on Sata2 or SATA3 drives in the blue ports)?

[guitardom]

PT loads at least 3x's faster with my SSD's. The platter drives like the WD Black have a read rate of about 80 :confused:the SSD I installed on my Ivy3770K benches in the 400's. How can you not see a difference? Platter Drives are for backup and storage. SSD's are for production.

Why would you pay all that premium for an X58 system and cripple it with a platter drive? Makes zero sense.

I honestly could care less about saving myself a minute or 2 when booting up or launching PT. there is typically plenty of other things I am doing at the same time. Ssd's will also decrease performance over time. There is also not much for standards as reliability go's. no way to know if you are going to get 1000 rewrites on a cell or 10,000 before performance decreases or cells die. I also have an average of 4 OS partitions per drive with a Removable bay system for my 2-3 OS drives. For my studio needs, ssd's are not there and or cost prohibitive.

[CME]

You ask so we will state it again - by connecting it with a 3gb/s cable and or connecting it to a sata-2 header on the mobo

While I'm sure sata 3 is a lot faster, I'm actually using sata 2 on my systems and see a great increase in speed. I could run my hack on a sata 3 bus, but I had to use the native sata 2 ports to install osx and never have moved they system drive over to sata 3. The rest of my systems only have sata 2. Guess I need to see if any of my cables are sata 3 and see how much I'm missing out on ;).

[tonepad]

the i7 3930k build i did for a buddy of mine also goes online whereas mine doesn't. thanks to Tom pointin' me in the right direction...by includin' the plugins folder and PT.exe in the MS Essentials exclusion folder, the startup for PT improved 1000%...seriously...from a minute plus down to less than 15 secs;)

Tip of the week ma fren...got my PT to pop open real fast on the SSD now. I also told it not to scan .wavs as well. Kinda just poked around in MS Sec-E and did no harm and got much goodness.

[mykhal c]

Tip of the week ma fren...got my PT to pop open real fast on the SSD now. I also told it not to scan .wavs as well. Kinda just poked around in MS Sec-E and did no harm and got much goodness.

yep...made a HUGE difference on his rig!!:D

[Trainwrecker]

You ask so we will state it again - by connecting it with a 3gb/s cable and or connecting it to a sata-2 header on the mobo

There is no difference between a SATA 1, 2, or 3 cable. Google it

There is no such thing as SATA III cable. Google it

Who told you otherwise?:eek:

[mykhal c]

I'm in the white SATA port on the mobo, but every cable I have(red and blue) all say nothing but SATA on them. Guess maybe I need to buy a specific cable....
so if I buy a SATA6 cable, is it backwards compatible(will it work fine on Sata2 or SATA3 drives in the blue ports)?

haven't researched it but gotta believe they are...

[mykhal c]

I honestly could care less about saving myself a minute or 2 when booting up or launching PT. there is typically plenty of other things I am doing at the same time. Ssd's will also decrease performance over time. There is also not much for standards as reliability go's. no way to know if you are going to get 1000 rewrites on a cell or 10,000 before performance decreases or cells die. I also have an average of 4 OS partitions per drive with a Removable bay system for my 2-3 OS drives. For my studio needs, ssd's are not there and or cost prohibitive.

there are certain things that are required to keep performance up for SSDs...one is to make sure they remain powered up and idle for up to 8hrs, say once every couple of months. this allows TRIM to function as designed...maintaining performance...at least this is the method for the Crucial M4...other SSDs might have different reqs for 'garbage collection'. and as for performance, an SSD along with disk cache might have you rethink your stance brotha Steve!! ;):D

[mykhal c]

There is no difference between a SATA 1, 2, or 3 cable. Google it

There is no such thing as SATA III cable. Google it

Who told you otherwise?:eek:

update your Google:p:D

[YYR123]

update your Google:p:D

He said update ur google !!!! Hahah

I don't know ahoy the specs (cable) but when I got my gigabyte mobo - I got 3 cables with it and those actually said 6gb/s - and yes sir Dave white header correct

So they may be or maybe not be a difference (I am not the manufacturer) but I have some that say 6 (sata 3) and some that say 3 (sata 2)

So are u guys talking about poking around in the windows MS extensions ?

[YYR123]

I could run my hack on a sata 3 bus, but I had to use the native sata 2 ports to install osx and never have moved the system drive over to sata 3.

I have a host of things I haven't done on my hack to finish the project - but I had to get back to work - I'm sure that's very common huh

[mykhal c]

He said update ur google !!!! Hahah

I don't know ahoy the specs (cable) but when I got my gigabyte mobo - I got 3 cables with it and those actually said 6gb/s - and yes sir Dave white header correct

So they may be or maybe not be a difference (I am not the manufacturer) but I have some that say 6 (sata 3) and some that say 3 (sata 2)

So are u guys talking about poking around in the windows MS extensions ?

MS Essentials anti-virus settings....

[YYR123]

My unfinished hack or apple PC if u will

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/18/esudybag.jpg

[Trainwrecker]

update your Google:p:D

"There is no such thing as SATA Rev 3.x certified cables. SATA cables all have the same AWG too, about the only thing they could do it plate the SATA connector pins differently for better signal integrity. I'm surprised Monster isn't selling snake-oil SATA Rev 3 cables yet"... Or Dr. Dre... :rolleyes: Do you buy those expensive HDMI cables from Best Buy also???

Next your going be telling people that IVY Bridge won't work with Pro Tools!:rolleyes: And the Intel 4000 Video is no good....:confused:

Is Your SATA Cable Slowing Down Your Data Transfers? Max PC Investigates

The Verdict
Let’s first say that when we started this, we were absolutely sure we’d see a difference. Afterall, moving to an authentic SATA 6Gb/s cable cleared up our problems the first time right? Wrong. As we worked our way through the first few cables, we began to realize that the SATA I/O did its work when it first put together the Serial ATA spec for cables. There is virtually no difference between a brand-new SATA 6Gb/s marked cable made this year and one produced nearly eight years ago as far as performance goes. Expensive cable, cheap cable; long cable, short cable—none of it seemingly made a real difference. If anything, the minor variances in performance can be attributed to variances in the benchmark or the SSD.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1188422/difference-between-sata-ii-and-sata-iii-cables

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdjZQuE8O8Y

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/300583-31-sata-sata-cable

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2151564

http://forums.legitreviews.com/about38524.html

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1495849

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1692046

http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=40792

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=708418

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=693992

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1656030

http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD/Sata-2-vs-Sata-3-cabling-for-my-C300/td-p/44552

http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD/SATA-III-cable-C300-UD7/td-p/11339

http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Serial_ATA_(SATA,_Serial_Advanced_Technology_Attac hment

http://www.overclock.net/t/1179609/sata-ii-or-sata-iii-cable-for-ocz-vertex-3

Q9. Does SATA 6Gb/s require different connectors and cables to support the higher transfer speed?

A9. The same cables and connectors used for current SATA 1.5 and SATA 3.0 Gb/s implementations can be used to connect SATA 6Gb/s devices
http://www.sata-io.org/documents/SATA-Revision-3.0-FAQ-FINAL.pdf

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110204192300AA4Eeo2

http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php?320370-SATA3-SATA6-cables-vs-SATA2-is-there-a-difference

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-92288.html?

The above image shows a SATA cable connected to the card. SATA cables are all the same, there is no need to upgrade here.
http://www.blog.solidstatediskshop.com/2011/sata-iii-on-a-sata-ii-pc/

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=209007

http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=11928.0


But But But? :cool:

[albee1952]

My question on SATA cables came from a quick search at newegg for SATA cable and looking down the list, some were labelled as SATA, some SATA II and some SATA 6gb. Its pretty durned confusing:p

[mykhal c]

"There is no such thing as SATA Rev 3.x certified cables. SATA cables all have the same AWG too, about the only thing they could do it plate the SATA connector pins differently for better signal integrity. I'm surprised Monster isn't selling snake-oil SATA Rev 3 cables yet"... Or Dr. Dre... :rolleyes: Do you buy those expensive HDMI cables from Best Buy also???

Next your going be telling people that IVY Bridge won't work with Pro Tools!:rolleyes: And the Intel 4000 Video is no good....:confused:

Is Your SATA Cable Slowing Down Your Data Transfers? Max PC Investigates

The Verdict
Let’s first say that when we started this, we were absolutely sure we’d see a difference. Afterall, moving to an authentic SATA 6Gb/s cable cleared up our problems the first time right? Wrong. As we worked our way through the first few cables, we began to realize that the SATA I/O did its work when it first put together the Serial ATA spec for cables. There is virtually no difference between a brand-new SATA 6Gb/s marked cable made this year and one produced nearly eight years ago as far as performance goes. Expensive cable, cheap cable; long cable, short cable—none of it seemingly made a real difference. If anything, the minor variances in performance can be attributed to variances in the benchmark or the SSD.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1188422/difference-between-sata-ii-and-sata-iii-cables

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdjZQuE8O8Y

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/300583-31-sata-sata-cable

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2151564

http://forums.legitreviews.com/about38524.html

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1495849

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1692046

http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=40792

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=708418

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=693992

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1656030

http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD/Sata-2-vs-Sata-3-cabling-for-my-C300/td-p/44552

http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD/SATA-III-cable-C300-UD7/td-p/11339

http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Serial_ATA_(SATA,_Serial_Advanced_Technology_Attac hment

http://www.overclock.net/t/1179609/sata-ii-or-sata-iii-cable-for-ocz-vertex-3

Q9. Does SATA 6Gb/s require different connectors and cables to support the higher transfer speed?

A9. The same cables and connectors used for current SATA 1.5 and SATA 3.0 Gb/s implementations can be used to connect SATA 6Gb/s devices
http://www.sata-io.org/documents/SATA-Revision-3.0-FAQ-FINAL.pdf

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110204192300AA4Eeo2

http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php?320370-SATA3-SATA6-cables-vs-SATA2-is-there-a-difference

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-92288.html?

The above image shows a SATA cable connected to the card. SATA cables are all the same, there is no need to upgrade here.
http://www.blog.solidstatediskshop.com/2011/sata-iii-on-a-sata-ii-pc/

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=209007

http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=11928.0


But But But? :cool:

and your point???!!!:D seriously tho...links are always appreciated here. no need to get funky with it tho...Ivy Bridge builders...definitely have no input there ;)

[YYR123]

You guys have too much time on ur hands - I usually post while (real time) bouncing - or coffee breaks !!!!


It's alright let it go already

[guitardom]

You guys have too much time on ur hands - I usually post while (real time) bouncing - or coffee breaks !!!!


It's alright let it go already

well over 2k posts in just over 2 years is a lot of coffee breaks...... :D

[YYR123]

Project studio -
So my 9-5 is spent - searching posting - videos - thus the 2k

So yeah pretty much tonight was spent on coffee breaks dinner breaks for post - that and I'm trying to fix some edrums we recorded last night

[mykhal c]

well over 2k posts in just over 2 years is a lot of coffee breaks...... :D

man i need to put somethin' in the mail to ya;)

[guitardom]

man i need to put somethin' in the mail to ya;)

Is the stress showing??? I thought it was funny!! ;)

[mykhal c]

Is the stress showing??? I thought it was funny!! ;)

nah i was talkin' about what i was gonna send you awhile back and forgot about it;)

[CME]

My unfinished hack or apple PC if u will

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/18/esudybag.jpg

Nice looking build. I considered the g5 case mods. Went with a nzxt h2 instead. Maybe my next one. I'm itching to do a dual socket 2011 build. Just don't really have the funds or practical reasons. But man would it be fun. If/when the Mac pros are updates, and if they do use E5 Xeons, I will probably have to jump and build one. 16-cores 32-virtual. Yeah that's what I'm talking about.

[YYR123]

Yeah there's just a couple of things I never really finished up with kinda like the optical drive door and things like that

Few other things on the internals that would make the routing of the wires look better and stuff also

Just really wanted to get back to recording - time is valuable
Funny thing is it started off of the best intents of having a high quality case mod - it came out alright but - I think I lost interest once I got the hack to boot

I think in some ways it would have been easier to use another type if case - less sawing and screwing - just drop the drives in and everything just fits

[Paul_Cantor]

half the parts arrived in the mail today. Still waiting on MB. But I sure do hope that Zalman cooler fits. That thing is humongous.

[YYR123]

Yeah I know what u mean my cooler master cooler had about a 1/4 of gap b/t it and the case wall

[guitardom]

half the parts arrived in the mail today. Still waiting on MB. But I sure do hope that Zalman cooler fits. That thing is humongous.

the noctua cooler i got is to big for my case. i actually need to drill something like 6- 1/4" holes through my case lid for the pionts of the heat sink ends that stick up. the case lid is just sitting on top of it now. i could push the case lid down around them but dont want to put the extra pressure on the cpu/heatsink. i have my system in a rack so a bit less space and its a GIANT heatsink

[albee1952]

the noctua cooler i got is to big for my case. i actually need to drill something like 6- 1/4" holes through my case lid for the pionts of the heat sink ends that stick up. the case lid is just sitting on top of it now. i could push the case lid down around them but dont want to put the extra pressure on the cpu/heatsink. i have my system in a rack so a bit less space and its a GIANT heatsink
Maybe you should just cut a hole and cover it with a hood scoop:D

[tonepad]

Maybe you should just cut a hole and cover it with a hood scoop:D

Yes!! Top Fuel style!!

My Cooler Master heatsink is big too but just fit in the CM Silencio case. Dunno what these makers are thinking with these supersize radiators. Are they a bit overkill or exactly what the 3930k needs?

[guitardom]

maybe you should just cut a hole and cover it with a hood scoop:d
.....hhhmmmmmmmm................ ;)

[YYR123]

Yes!! Top Fuel style!!

My Cooler Master heatsink is big too but just fit in the CM Silencio case. Dunno what these makers are thinking with these supersize radiators. Are they a bit overkill or exactly what the 3930k needs?

I think most people that are going for outfits performance - use water cooling - which Is a smaller form factor - but a bit if a hassle if u ask me

Just something about putting water lines inside the computer case that seems foreign to me. -

I guess they are thinking if ur using a cooler u have a monster case- I would rather have it than not !!

[Trainwrecker]

Nothing is easier and as quite as a closed water cooling system. I have them in three boxes. You can get them for under $50 w/rebate at the Egg. Easy to install, small and very efficient.

[TOM@METRO]

I had a Corsair Liquid cooler spring a leak. With an HDX card right below it. I don't think I’ll be doin' that again. :eek:

[guitardom]

I had a Corsair Liquid cooler spring a leak. With an HDX card right below it. I don't think I’ll be doin' that again. :eek:

There was an issue, especially during the opteron stuff where people was burning up there chipsets w water cooled systems. They neglected air flow to other parts that needs it.

[Trainwrecker]

Really guys? Opteron? Was Clinton president then? or the 1st Bush?:D:D:D
Your comebacks again, make me want to post 50 threads of 1000's of successes with closed system water coolers... Operton? Was it a 164? Of Course it was!

A couple of kids install, incorrectly boost the vcore years ago....and that puts the Kibosh on the best, the most efficient, and the quietest CPU cooling system ever devised? Oh and that leak.... :eek:

Carry on! :o

[TOM@METRO]

There was an issue, especially during the opteron stuff where people was burning up there chipsets w water cooled systems. They neglected air flow to other parts that needs it.
The newer boards seem to be better about cooling chipsets, but leaks do occur. In my testing the closed liquid coolers were within 2 degrees of the better air stuff. They are a little closer to silent though. But with a machine room...

[guitardom]

Really guys? Opteron? Was Clinton president then? or the 1st Bush?:D:D:D
Your comebacks again, make me want to post 50 threads of 1000's of successes with closed system water coolers... Operton? Was it a 164? Of Course it was!

A couple of kids install, incorrectly boost the vcore years ago....and that puts the Kibosh on the best, the most efficient, and the quietest CPU cooling system ever devised? Oh and that leak.... :eek:

Carry on! :o
I have been running PT a long time and building my own computers on top of it. that was right after PT 7 came out if i remember correctly. these thoughts and memories come with experience, you will get there!! ;) that computer is actually still going and runs great. Shan and I had a long sticky here on the duc for a few years based on these opteron builds. they were a beast and stable as hell. though i could heat half the place on that computer!! and no you could not really OC that machine at all, it would melt. stabilize a couple settings and that was it. also they were dual core 270 dual processor server motherboards

So by your logic, if any action or thought is proved to be the majority, then no other outcome is possible or cannot be any issues?? but then again if something is the majority and YOU have a different outcome, you still say they are wrong. lots of conclusions can be made........

[Matt H]

I can’t seem to get my new system to work with the Digi 002R. I bought a Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 motherboard and an Intel core i3 – 2105 processor. I wanted to build a Hackintosh on this hardware and I was successful in getting OS10.6 to run on this along with Pro Tools 9. I have SIIG NN-E20012-S2 firewire card to connect the Digi 002R.

Everything works fine except for the dreaded “The operating system held off interrupts too long” error. Changing the hardware buffer size does no good.

I tried the firewire card and the Digi 002R on two other older PCs (Intel 945 and Intel 965 motherboards running Win XP SP3) and a Mac G5 (running Tiger) and they all work fine.

I concluded that trying to run OS10.6 might be the problem, so I loaded Win XP SP3, and I still get errors (something about a clock signal problem, but it was set to Internal) when trying to run Pro Tools with the Z68 chipset motherboard and Win XP SP3. It will run my original MBox just fine, but there seems to be some sort of incompatibility with the firewire interface and my motherboard.

I tried a couple of different graphics cards and that didn't help either. I think I tried Pro Tools 6.4,7.2,8,9 & 10 without success.

I have had firewire card problems before. I had several G5's that wouldn’t drive a Digi 002 with their built-in ports and I had to add the SIIG firewire cards, but those have always worked for me.

I have been dealing with the Digi 002 and 002R for nearly 10 years starting with G4's to G5's and Mac Pros and a couple of PCs, and this is the first time I can’t get it to work, but just on this particular motherboard.

Has anyone had any success with a Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 motherboard or any Z68 motherboard with a Digi 002?

I tried getting help from Gigabyte, but they wanted me to ship the Digi 002R to Taiwan.

[TOM@METRO]

I can’t seem to get my new system to work with the Digi 002R. I bought a Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 motherboard and an Intel core i3 – 2105 processor. I wanted to build a Hackintosh on this hardware and I was successful in getting OS10.6 to run on this along with Pro Tools 9. I have SIIG NN-E20012-S2 firewire card to connect the Digi 002R.

Everything works fine except for the dreaded “The operating system held off interrupts too long” error. Changing the hardware buffer size does no good.

I tried the firewire card and the Digi 002R on two other older PCs (Intel 945 and Intel 965 motherboards running Win XP SP3) and a Mac G5 (running Tiger) and they all work fine.

I concluded that trying to run OS10.6 might be the problem, so I loaded Win XP SP3, and I still get errors (something about a clock signal problem, but it was set to Internal) when trying to run Pro Tools with the Z68 chipset motherboard and Win XP SP3. It will run my original MBox just fine, but there seems to be some sort of incompatibility with the firewire interface and my motherboard.

I tried a couple of different graphics cards and that didn't help either. I think I tried Pro Tools 6.4,7.2,8,9 & 10 without success.

I have had firewire card problems before. I had several G5's that wouldn’t drive a Digi 002 with their built-in ports and I had to add the SIIG firewire cards, but those have always worked for me.

I have been dealing with the Digi 002 and 002R for nearly 10 years starting with G4's to G5's and Mac Pros and a couple of PCs, and this is the first time I can’t get it to work, but just on this particular motherboard.

Has anyone had any success with a Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 motherboard or any Z68 motherboard with a Digi 002?

I tried getting help from Gigabyte, but they wanted me to ship the Digi 002R to Taiwan.

Most of the i3 systems have been a little iffy.

Post a Sandra report and let's see what's up.

http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=300050

[albee1952]

I would try all the resident FW drivers found on your system. While Avid recommends the Legacy driver(and you should try it), it doesn't work here(003 mixer). The TI Compliant driver works fine. The legacy driver turns all the 003 buttons into midi note messages:eek: and the 3rd driver(don't remember what its called) would cause the 003 to not be found at all.

[Paul_Cantor]

building now. case I bought ( Lian Li PC-7B) doesn't have brackets for SSD. Any advice on mounting this thing or can I just leave it connected in the case without being mounted?

[YYR123]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/24/eby9ygy5.jpg

building now. case I bought ( Lian Li PC-7B) doesn't have brackets for SSD. Any advice on mounting this thing or can I just leave it connected in the case without being mounted?

Either or

I got a cheap one from new egg I believe

[tonepad]

building now. case I bought ( Lian Li PC-7B) doesn't have brackets for SSD. Any advice on mounting this thing or can I just leave it connected in the case without being mounted?

Heck I had a couple of SSD's just dangling from SATA cables. Since there aren't any moving parts and they're so light you can get away with it. However in my most recent build I found an adapter that mounts 2.5" drives in a little frame that fits in 3.5" bays. Mine holds 2 but I've just got one SSD in it now. I think I found it on Amazon and it was only $5....came all bent but it was easy to fix. As a matter of fact if you have some scrap aluminum around you could do a roll your own, but then again that would cost more than $5 of your time.

[Greg M]

Dave,

We have nearly identical computers and I put an OCZ Vertex 4 in mine as an OS drive a while back. Boot time is way, way faster than with WD Black. When I first got the Vertex 4, it was not - had to update the drive firmware. Current batch of OCZ drives have the latest firmware.

PT startup time is shorter, but not a lot. However, just about everything else is a lot faster. I still have my WD Black installed in my computer and still keep it up to date. I tend to just get used to the SSD speed until I boot to the WD Black and then I realize just how much faster the SSD is.

Not sure what is going on with your Samsung drive, but something just doesn't sound right.

Greg

[YYR123]

……and I was cloning some drives today - and u can tell almost identical sized drives b/t SSD and a WD Blk is an amazing difference - SSD's are amazing fast to clone

[Matt H]

I can’t seem to get my new system to work with the Digi 002R. I bought a Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 motherboard and an Intel core i3 – 2105 processor. I wanted to build a Hackintosh on this hardware and I was successful in getting OS10.6 to run on this along with Pro Tools 9. I have SIIG NN-E20012-S2 firewire card to connect the Digi 002R.

Everything works fine except for the dreaded “The operating system held off interrupts too long” error. Changing the hardware buffer size does no good.

I tried the firewire card and the Digi 002R on two other older PCs (Intel 945 and Intel 965 motherboards running Win XP SP3) and a Mac G5 (running Tiger) and they all work fine.

I concluded that trying to run OS10.6 might be the problem, so I loaded Win XP SP3, and I still get errors (something about a clock signal problem, but it was set to Internal) when trying to run Pro Tools with the Z68 chipset motherboard and Win XP SP3. It will run my original MBox just fine, but there seems to be some sort of incompatibility with the firewire interface and my motherboard.

I tried a couple of different graphics cards and that didn't help either. I think I tried Pro Tools 6.4,7.2,8,9 & 10 without success.

I have had firewire card problems before. I had several G5's that wouldn’t drive a Digi 002 with their built-in ports and I had to add the SIIG firewire cards, but those have always worked for me.

I have been dealing with the Digi 002 and 002R for nearly 10 years starting with G4's to G5's and Mac Pros and a couple of PCs, and this is the first time I can’t get it to work, but just on this particular motherboard.

Has anyone had any success with a Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 motherboard or any Z68 motherboard with a Digi 002?

I tried getting help from Gigabyte, but they wanted me to ship the Digi 002R to Taiwan.


After a busy weekend, I was finally able to run the Sandra report which follows:

SiSoftware Sandra
ID
Host Name : z68ma
Workgroup : WORKGROUP
Computer
Model : GigaByte Z68MA-D2H-B3
Chassis : GigaByte Desktop
Mainboard : GigaByte Z68MA-D2H-B3
BIOS : Award (OEM) F9 10/12/2011
Total Memory : 3GB DIMM DDR3
Processors
Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2105 CPU @ 3.10GHz (2C 4T 3.09GHz, 3.1GHz IMC, 2x 256kB L2, 3MB L3)
Socket/Slot : FC LGA1155
Chipset
Memory Controller : Intel Core (Sandy Bridge) DRAM Controller 100MHz, 2x 4GB DIMM DDR3 1.33GHz 128-bit
Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Crucial CT51264BA1339C16F 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-10700U DDR3-1334 (9-9-9-24 4-33-10-5)
Memory Module : Crucial CT51264BA1339C16F 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-10700U DDR3-1334 (9-9-9-24 4-33-10-5)
Video System
Monitor/Panel : Samsung SyncMaster 530/531TFT (LXB550*) (1024x768, 14.9")
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 210 (16SP , 1GB DDR2 128-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Storage Devices
WDC WD5000AAKS-00TMA0 (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 16MB Cache) : 466GB (C:)
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7740H (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 1MB Cache) : N/A (D:)
Logical Storage Devices
Hard Disk (C:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD5000AAKS-00TMA0 (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 16MB Cache)
Optical Drive (D:) : N/A @ Optiarc DVD RW AD-7740H (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 1MB Cache)
Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : Gigabyte Cougar Point LPC Controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : T2 87-28
Audio Device : Gigabyte Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Device : 6510 High Definition Audio Controller
Serial Port(s) : 1
Disk Controller : Gigabyte Cougar Point 4 port SATA IDE Controller
Disk Controller : Gigabyte Cougar Point 2 port SATA IDE Controller
USB Controller 1 : Gigabyte Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #2
USB Controller 2 : Gigabyte Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #1
USB Controller 3 : Gigabyte Etron USB 3.0 Extensible Host Controller
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : SIIG XIO2200(A) IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel ICH SMBus
Printers and Faxes
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Network Services
Network Adapter : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport (Ethernet, 100Mbps)
Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 3)
Platform Compliance : x86

Thanks!
Matt

[Wozzz]

I'm having probs with my motherboard so about to do an upgrade. I'm running pt10 on 64bit Win7 with a Digi 003. Would this combination work well......?

Chip: Intell 2011pin Core i7-3820
Mobo: Gigabyte X79-UP4
RAM: 16G Kit 1600(8Gx2)KingstonHyperX

Looks like there is no firewire on the mobo though. Would I have to get a firewire card also.What's a good one?

Albee was saying that Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 based on TOM@METRO's success is a good choice, any thoughts?


I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to hardware, please forgive my ignorance.

Can anyone suggest a motherboard, CPU and RAM combination that works around the price point above? Looking to spend about $700-800 AUD.

Cheers
Woz

[Paul_Cantor]

My system's up and running but man, this Zalman fan is not quiet at all.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118074

Feel like I just stepped back ten years in computer time. Had an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro in my old XP system and that thing barely made a sound at all. This is definitely not as quiet as that. Any way to quiet this fan?

System:

Intel Core i7-3930K

ASUS Sabertooth X79

SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit

Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED

Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W

ASUS EAH3450/HTP/256M Radeon HD

[EGS]

Shouldn't this thread be moved to Pro Tools Software (Win) (http://duc.avid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=93)? Or a sticky/link there? If someone is building a new PT rig, I don't think they'd check in "legacy products".

[mykhal c]

My system's up and running but man, this Zalman fan is not quiet at all.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118074

Feel like I just stepped back ten years in computer time. Had an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro in my old XP system and that thing barely made a sound at all. This is definitely not as quiet as that. Any way to quiet this fan?

System:

Intel Core i7-3930K

ASUS Sabertooth X79

SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit

Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED

Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W

ASUS EAH3450/HTP/256M Radeon HD

my Zalman is very quiet!!! either you got a bad one or you don't have your settings on OPTIMAL or QUIET...and i had an Arctic 7 on my Q6600. zalman beats it hands-down. you have the same mobo i have so be sure to check those settings again...

[mykhal c]

Shouldn't this thread be moved to Pro Tools Software (Win) (http://duc.avid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=93)? Or a sticky/link there? If someone is building a new PT rig, I don't think they'd check in "legacy products".

yep...i agree. SB79 is lookin' into a link or build sub-forum now...;)

[Shan]

Whether W7, W8, or OSX on the front end, I'd say it's time for a separate Builds forum for all. This should include the legacy sticky builds, as many of those systems are still in service.

Shane

[Paul_Cantor]

my Zalman is very quiet!!! either you got a bad one or you don't have your settings on OPTIMAL or QUIET...and i had an Arctic 7 on my Q6600. zalman beats it hands-down. you have the same mobo i have so be sure to check those settings again...

I switch it to 'silent' in my BIOS and really nothing happens. I put all my fans to that setting and nothing happens :confused:

[mykhal c]

I switch it to 'silent' in my BIOS and really nothing happens. I put all my fans to that setting and nothing happens :confused:

you might not have things config'd properly then. do you have Q-control enabled? (i think that's what it's called) also you are powerin' all your fans off the mobo connectors, correct?

[gavriil1]

OK guys. I have been over at the Hackintosh thread and after contemplation I decided to lean towards putting together a desktop PC instead. What are your thoughts? I have done this before many times but the last time I did was quite a while ago and I promised that next time I am buying from a manufacturer. However back then I was not dealing with PT.

1. So should I put it together and if yes, what is the best tried config for PT running "smoothly"

2. Or should I look into have someone else put it together for me? (I dont mind that person's sensible profit).

[gavriil1]

So should I assume that for a PT session drive, it's preferable to go the HD route instead of the SSD route?

Finally getting a minute to post my recent I7 Win7 PT 10.3.3 build...how quaint that this is still a PTLE thread ;}= Heeding the advice of the community here and smiling big time. This is without doubt the best and most powerful PT related Wintel rig I've ever had:


MEM: 4Gx4 CORSAIR CML16GX3M4A1600C9
PSU: ROSEWILL RG630-S12 630W
CPU COOLER: CoolerMaster RR-212E-20PK-R2
HD: 1TB WD 7K 64M SATAIII WD1002FAEX (session drive)
MB: ASUS SABERTOOTH X79 X79 LGA2011
CPU: INTEL CORE I7 3930K 3.2G 12MB cache
CASE: COOLER MASTER Silencio RC-450-KKN1
Samsung 24x DVD drive
Boot Drive 1: Seagate 500 GB 7200 (on hand item)
Boot Drive 2: OCZ Sata6 SSD (on hand item)


GPU: Galaxy Nvidia GT 640 1GB (though I started with a fanless Nvidia older rev GPU) this upgrade puts an entry level Kepler board in the rig, so far I like it a lot and even with fan it adds no noise to a very quiet build. This is serious competition for the MacPro dual Xeon sitting in the iso box next to it.

[gavriil1]

Also this video card runs one monitor, correct? Which one is the best for dual monitors?

Finally getting a minute to post my recent I7 Win7 PT 10.3.3 build...how quaint that this is still a PTLE thread ;}= Heeding the advice of the community here and smiling big time. This is without doubt the best and most powerful PT related Wintel rig I've ever had:


MEM: 4Gx4 CORSAIR CML16GX3M4A1600C9
PSU: ROSEWILL RG630-S12 630W
CPU COOLER: CoolerMaster RR-212E-20PK-R2
HD: 1TB WD 7K 64M SATAIII WD1002FAEX (session drive)
MB: ASUS SABERTOOTH X79 X79 LGA2011
CPU: INTEL CORE I7 3930K 3.2G 12MB cache
CASE: COOLER MASTER Silencio RC-450-KKN1
Samsung 24x DVD drive
Boot Drive 1: Seagate 500 GB 7200 (on hand item)
Boot Drive 2: OCZ Sata6 SSD (on hand item)


GPU: Galaxy Nvidia GT 640 1GB (though I started with a fanless Nvidia older rev GPU) this upgrade puts an entry level Kepler board in the rig, so far I like it a lot and even with fan it adds no noise to a very quiet build. This is serious competition for the MacPro dual Xeon sitting in the iso box next to it.

[mykhal c]

most of the vid cards are gonna have dual output...you just gotta make sure that the outputs fit your config. make sure to check out page 1 for a few choices. there are a few of us that have gone with my build on page 1. can't go wrong if you select from components listed on the first page...also browse thru the last 30 -50 pages of this thread for other successful builds not posted on page 1. good luck and happy building!!:-)

[Paul_Cantor]

you might not have things config'd properly then. do you have Q-control enabled? (i think that's what it's called) also you are powerin' all your fans off the mobo connectors, correct?

Yep. I mean, I don't want to say it's super loud, but definitely audible. I can hear the computer on.

[mykhal c]

Yep. I mean, I don't want to say it's super loud, but definitely audible. I can hear the computer on.

well only thing i can say is if you change the fan settings and you don't see the rpm speed drop and you don't hear a diff then somethin' is not configured properly :o

[gavriil1]

most of the vid cards are gonna have dual output...you just gotta make sure that the outputs fit your config. make sure to check out page 1 for a few choices. there are a few of us that have gone with my build on page 1. can't go wrong if you select from components listed on the first page...also browse thru the last 30 -50 pages of this thread for other successful builds not posted on page 1. good luck and happy building!!:-)

Thanks. Will do. The reason I wrote what I did about the dual video is because the listed above GPU looked in the pics like it had one DVI output, so was wondering how one becomes two.

Also my other question about dual monitors is:

I have two monitors that I want to use for my work laptop (which connects to a docking station which does have two DVI outputs out), but when I build this new monster, I want to have an easy way to switch between the desktop and the docking station. Is there a switch I can buy that can sit in between those two where I can easily press a button and select the output?

[gavriil1]

Guys please help me understand your performance results. I understand most of them but not all:

In the first page, on the first config I read:

"mykhal: config'd to 4.0GHz...results...600 dverbs ((1024 buffer, 11 procs, 99%, 24/48 session) testing @12 procs 85% produced lower score)"

So my guess is that this fellow (mykhal) has overclocked his CPU to 4Ghz and at setting up PT for 11 threads at 99% cpu at a 24 bit 48KHZ session he got better scores than at 12 threads and 85% cpu allocation. And the buffer was at 1024 ok.

If correct:

1. What are 600 dverbs?
2. I am surprised at the 1024 buffer though. Meaning, isnt lower, better? Shouldnt it be, the more powerful the machine, the lower the buffer? Or do I have it backwards? Cos my dinky laptop does not like low buffers, I have to go all the way to 2048 in order for it to stop crackling.

Thanks all.

[Paul_Cantor]

well only thing i can say is if you change the fan settings and you don't see the rpm speed drop and you don't hear a diff then somethin' is not configured properly :o

What would you say the typical RPM should be? Maybe then I can gather if something's off.

[albee1952]

Guys please help me understand your performance results. I understand most of them but not all:

In the first page, on the first config I read:

"mykhal: config'd to 4.0GHz...results...600 dverbs ((1024 buffer, 11 procs, 99%, 24/48 session) testing @12 procs 85% produced lower score)"

So my guess is that this fellow (mykhal) has overclocked his CPU to 4Ghz and at setting up PT for 11 threads at 99% cpu at a 24 bit 48KHZ session he got better scores than at 12 threads and 85% cpu allocation. And the buffer was at 1024 ok.

If correct:

1. What are 600 dverbs?
2. I am surprised at the 1024 buffer though. Meaning, isnt lower, better? Shouldnt it be, the more powerful the machine, the lower the buffer? Or do I have it backwards? Cos my dinky laptop does not like low buffers, I have to go all the way to 2048 in order for it to stop crackling.

Thanks all.
Read all of the first page of this thread(its good education):D. Part of it explains the Dverb test clearly. The settings are primarily for consistency(so if you test your system with different settings, the results may NOT make sense when compared to other tests). Are you recording at 88.2 or 96K? I thought the 2048 buffer was only available at those higher sample rates(most of us work at 48k as the quality is adequate for most modern music, and it takes a lot of strain off the computer).:o

[CME]

Guys please help me understand your performance results. I understand most of them but not all:

In the first page, on the first config I read:

"mykhal: config'd to 4.0GHz...results...600 dverbs ((1024 buffer, 11 procs, 99%, 24/48 session) testing @12 procs 85% produced lower score)"

So my guess is that this fellow (mykhal) has overclocked his CPU to 4Ghz and at setting up PT for 11 threads at 99% cpu at a 24 bit 48KHZ session he got better scores than at 12 threads and 85% cpu allocation. And the buffer was at 1024 ok.

If correct:

1. What are 600 dverbs?
2. I am surprised at the 1024 buffer though. Meaning, isnt lower, better? Shouldnt it be, the more powerful the machine, the lower the buffer? Or do I have it backwards? Cos my dinky laptop does not like low buffers, I have to go all the way to 2048 in order for it to stop crackling.

Thanks all.

The test is designed to be "standardized". Everyone uses a 1024 buffer in a 24-bit 48khz session. That keeps it a level playing field. Sometimes someone will post their scores at different settings. But using the "standard" keeps it directly comparable.

And dverb is the plug-in used for the test. It had to be a plug-in included with pro tools, and I believe dverb is/was the most CPU intensive one included. At this point it might be time to see if another plug-in uses more CPU power. Maybe one of the AIR reverbs? But that would also make it impossible to directly compare new results to previous builds without retesting them. So maybe not a good idea.

[mykhal c]

What would you say the typical RPM should be? Maybe then I can gather if something's off.

hard to say...depends on your rig's temps. my temps run 30-33c at idle...45-47c on full load dverb test. a program like EVEREST will show what your fans are spinnin' at. and like i said earlier, if changing the setting doesn't alter the speed then somethin' is amiss;) i run my setting at optimal and have an aluminum case and don't hear the fan. but then again, i'm not recording any vocals in the room either. hope you sort it out...

and FWIW, when i first turned on my rig i didn't think it had fired up it was so quiet...especially compared to my Q6600 w/Artic7 cooler...

[mykhal c]

At this point it might be time to see if another plug-in uses more CPU power.

well we'll have to pick an AAX plug when RTAS is no longer used in PT11. for now tho, users should remember to remove the AAX DVERB from the folder so the RTAS version will become visible for the test. AAX DVERB is much more of a hog than the RTAS DVERB!!! MUCH!!! when i get a chance i'll run my test usin' the AAX DVERB and post results on page 1 with the other dverb score.

[gavriil1]

Read all of the first page of this thread(its good education):D. Part of it explains the Dverb test clearly. The settings are primarily for consistency(so if you test your system with different settings, the results may NOT make sense when compared to other tests). Are you recording at 88.2 or 96K? I thought the 2048 buffer was only available at those higher sample rates(most of us work at 48k as the quality is adequate for most modern music, and it takes a lot of strain off the computer).:o

Thanks. I always set the sampling rates to the highest possible. Lol.

[gavriil1]

Thanks CME. Clearer now :)

[gavriil1]

Is there a way to get away with a fan-less CPU cooling method? I am OK with the 120mm case fans.

Specifically on a 3930k i7 on a Asus Sabertooth?

Also, what is "the best case" - regardless of cost for the above setup? Mid Tower or larger OK.

[CME]

Thanks. I always set the sampling rates to the highest possible. Lol.

Just out of curiosity. Why?