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Keiser Soze
09-06-2011, 05:55 AM
@ OceanCat

Check out my signature. I have a very modest build and it performs fantastically. You might be able to get something similar to that for what you're willing to spend. I hope that helps!

Hi all,

I recently purchased pt 8 with an mbox pro. I need a new computer and I want one dedicated to pro tools. I will probably upgrade to 9 as soon as I get it up and running. I know there is a lot of great info in this thread but it is also 400+ pages and was wondering if anyone could help me put together a system for under $800. I just need a well balanced system that works seamlessly with my mbox pro.

OceanCat
09-06-2011, 06:38 AM
Thanks for all the help. I actually ran across an amazing deal on a 27" iMac yesterday that I could not pass up. The install went as smooth as silk and I am really loving the mac experience so far, amazing machines. I know it isn't as fast as most of the builds in this thread, but it is rock solid and so user friendly.

Keiser Soze
09-06-2011, 07:49 AM
Oh man, we lost another one... LOL. Enjoy, buddy! Whatever works for you is all that matters.

Thanks for all the help. I actually ran across an amazing deal on a 27" iMac yesterday that I could not pass up. The install went as smooth as silk and I am really loving the mac experience so far, amazing machines. I know it isn't as fast as most of the builds in this thread, but it is rock solid and so user friendly.

nekrophile
09-12-2011, 04:51 PM
I'm looking to build a new HD system. Can anyone comment on this build? Any feedback is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Asus P8Z68-V Pro Motherboard
Intel Core i7 QUAD CORE 2600K 3.4GHz 95W CPU
Kingston DDR3-1333 4096MB Ram - 16GB RAM each.
MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Twin Frozr II Video Card
Western Digital Caviar Black 1.0TB SATA 6 Gb/s
Intel 311 20GB SATA II 2.5inch SSD Hard Drive For Intel Smart Response Technology.
Lite-On 18x DVD-ROM SATA (black) CD / DVD Rom
Lancool PC-K7B Black Case
Antec TruePower New Series 650W Power Supply
Gelid Tranquillo Rev2 CPU Cooling

albee1952
09-12-2011, 08:19 PM
I'm looking to build a new HD system. Can anyone comment on this build? Any feedback is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Asus P8Z68-V Pro Motherboard
Intel Core i7 QUAD CORE 2600K 3.4GHz 95W CPU
Kingston DDR3-1333 4096MB Ram - 16GB RAM each.
MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Twin Frozr II Video Card
Western Digital Caviar Black 1.0TB SATA 6 Gb/s
Intel 311 20GB SATA II 2.5inch SSD Hard Drive For Intel Smart Response Technology.
Lite-On 18x DVD-ROM SATA (black) CD / DVD Rom
Lancool PC-K7B Black Case
Antec TruePower New Series 650W Power Supply
Gelid Tranquillo Rev2 CPU Cooling
I'm not the last word on this, but I would not go with a Z68 mobo(why pay for integrated graphics you won't/can't use). Also, I would skip the SSD(not really proven for PT use) and spend the money on triple WD Caviar Blacks(1-system, 1-samples and 1-recording). Due to info I have been told by a local PT system builder, I would go 8GB of RAM(word is that 16GB will not show any increased performance and might actually hurt). Just my 2 cents:D

mano111
09-13-2011, 12:50 AM
I'm looking to build a new HD system. Can anyone comment on this build? Any feedback is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Asus P8Z68-V Pro Motherboard
Intel Core i7 QUAD CORE 2600K 3.4GHz 95W CPU
Kingston DDR3-1333 4096MB Ram - 16GB RAM each.
MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Twin Frozr II Video Card
Western Digital Caviar Black 1.0TB SATA 6 Gb/s
Intel 311 20GB SATA II 2.5inch SSD Hard Drive For Intel Smart Response Technology.
Lite-On 18x DVD-ROM SATA (black) CD / DVD Rom
Lancool PC-K7B Black Case
Antec TruePower New Series 650W Power Supply
Gelid Tranquillo Rev2 CPU Cooling

I'm with albee on the chipset. Go with P67.

The video card is overkill. If you aren't gonna play games on this machine you will be much better off with a cooler+less power hungry+cheaper+quiet card.

About the SSD 20GB model is pointless. Either go with a ~60GB or more as a system disk, or just get a regular HDD. Intel or Crucial are the brands to get IMO.
Installing Windows on the SSD will make your system feel a bit faster with faster load times for PT and Pludings as well as the time it take to load windows. Its not a huge difference but at today's prices it seems to be worth it.

When you say HD you mean HD Native right?

nekrophile
09-13-2011, 02:16 PM
When you say HD you mean HD Native right?

Thanks for everyone's feedback. This is actually for an HD2 TDM system. I made a mistake and posted on the wrong forum :( but this is still very useful feedback. I'll look into a P67 system along with downgrading the graphics card. I do some development work on the side which is what the SSD would be used for.

Thanks again.

mano111
09-14-2011, 03:35 AM
Hi Albee,

I read your building a new SNB rig, care to share your choices, thoughts, anything?

rocketeer
09-18-2011, 12:34 PM
Hey guys, I just finished my build, I7 2600k, 8gb ram @ 1600, Gigabyte z68 board, Crucial M4 SSD, WD Blue as my session drive (temporarily, I've got a black that'll be in there too). No windows tweaks, no OC'ing, too many processes running in the background... :)

So my D-Verb 2 score (if I did it correctly) is 72 tracks, 360 D-verbs. I'm really happy with that score, though I'm sure I can do better. What do you guys think? I tried to compare it to some of the scores on the first page, but to be honest, the first page is so convoluted it's difficult to read... I'm just wondering if there's any glaring tweak or setting I omitted.

I gotta say though, I'm over the moon as compared to my Q6600, which was good but the Antec case issues were just terrible, and it was really odd sometimes under XP. This one's totally silent thanks to the NZXT case and the Antec water cooler (my CPU temp is 24 deg. C!). You guys have helped me so much, thanks!

o.

albee1952
09-18-2011, 12:48 PM
Hey guys, I just finished my build, I7 2600k, 8gb ram @ 1600, Gigabyte z68 board, Crucial M4 SSD, WD Blue as my session drive (temporarily, I've got a black that'll be in there too). No windows tweaks, no OC'ing, too many processes running in the background... :)

So my D-Verb 2 score (if I did it correctly) is 72 tracks, 360 D-verbs. I'm really happy with that score, though I'm sure I can do better. What do you guys think? I tried to compare it to some of the scores on the first page, but to be honest, the first page is so convoluted it's difficult to read... I'm just wondering if there's any glaring tweak or setting I omitted.

I gotta say though, I'm over the moon as compared to my Q6600, which was good but the Antec case issues were just terrible, and it was really odd sometimes under XP. This one's totally silent thanks to the NZXT case and the Antec water cooler (my CPU temp is 24 deg. C!). You guys have helped me so much, thanks!

o.
Looks like you are off to a great start. Clue us in on your BIOS settings(especially on the RAM) and see what happens after Windows tweaks:rolleyes: I will report on my 2500K rig after I get it assembled(maybe later this week):D

rocketeer
09-18-2011, 05:04 PM
Looks like you are off to a great start. Clue us in on your BIOS settings(especially on the RAM) and see what happens after Windows tweaks:rolleyes: I will report on my 2500K rig after I get it assembled(maybe later this week):D

Great! I feel good now... except my beloved Dolphins are terrible...

Anyway, my RAM is Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb, the mobo saw it as 1333 but I changed it manually and set the timings to 8-8-8-24. I hope I did that right, this is the first time I've ever had to do anything like that. Now the part I dread the most- re-installing my plug-ins and finding out which ones work on W7 and then finding the appropriate updates... this could be awhile...

It runs so cooly that I don't think I'll even hesitate to overclock if I should ever see the reason. The Antec Kuhler is just miles ahead of my old Arctic Freezer for not much more. Plus, it's not nearly as intrusive so it's much easier to get around inside the case.

And what a case it is. The front-loading drive bays and the extra hot-swappable bay on top (NZXT H2) are just brilliant. Not-so-brilliant is the fact that on this mobo the SATA ports are forward-facing, which is just bone-headed.

I've not upgraded to 9.0.5, I've heard not so nice things about it. Opinions? Should I wait another rev?

-o.

nailbrush
09-19-2011, 05:34 AM
Just picked up a Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R at a very good price :D

I know I need a socket 1366 processor but which one?

Keiser Soze
09-19-2011, 06:01 AM
@nailbrush

Any one you can afford. I have the 920 (bottom of the line), and it's fantastic. Of course it's overclocked, but being able to do that adds to the value. Just make sure to pick up a good third-party cooler, and you should be alright. Do your research, read carefully, and have fun!

Try starting here:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=22&sel=Detail%3B112_174_44818_44818

Doven
09-20-2011, 03:23 PM
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 w/ DualDDR3 2200, 7.1 Audio, etc.

Is this a worthwhile purchase? I like the triple crossfire. Want to use this machine for video editing also (different boot disc).

mano111
09-21-2011, 05:45 AM
Triple CF is only good for gaming (and even then it doesn't scale 1:1)

UD3 should be enough, I've used it for many Avid Media Composer builds. Its up to you and your $.
DDR3 is fine @ 1600. The difference to 2200 in terms performance is mostly for theoretical / benchmark / extreme overclock purposes.

All X58 boards are triple channel RAM not dual.

Doven
09-21-2011, 04:36 PM
Has anyone used a PNY Quadro 2000 1GBin their build with success? This would make a great video editing card but it also needs to get along with my DAW. Any conflicts?

filosofem
09-21-2011, 06:17 PM
7.1 Audio
Disable it, even at BIOS level, it can and most likely will cause Pro Tools playback errors.

filosofem
09-21-2011, 06:19 PM
PNY Quadro 2000
NVS 2000 is Avid Approved. Quadro FX 1800 is Avid Approved also FX 2000 shouldn't make any difference.

Doven
09-21-2011, 06:38 PM
Thanks guys I appreciate your help.

Has anyone had success with the GeForce GTX 560 Ti in these builds? It's a cheaper way to get CUDA performance.


So close now. ;-)

Malik
09-21-2011, 06:53 PM
Hi guys
I am going to build a new i7 PC for sound editing and music production using protools and other applications such as cubase, FL studio etc.

Need your advice guys to choose the suitable processor

I7 2600k (2ND Gen.), I7 980 or I7 960 (both previous Gen.) which one would you recommend me to get?
Also suggest to me a good motherboard actually my new pc is gonna be for sound only (no need for video features)

For RAM there are some options I don't know what to choose between
Kingston Hyper X
Corsair Dominator
Patriot

For HDD there are also two options I don't know what to choose between
WD caviar black
Seagate Barracuda

Any other suggestions?

filosofem
09-21-2011, 07:17 PM
I7 2600k (2ND Gen.), I7 980 or I7 960 (both previous Gen.) which one would you recommend me to get?
I would ask, how long are you thinking of keeping this DAW? A couple of years, three maybe four max? Personally, I would not waste good money on LGA1155 (i7 2600K), my pick would be to jump to X58 (LGA 1366) Intel Core i7 990X (6-Core). Soon these are going to drop in price once X79 (LGA 2011) is released Q4 2011. X79 will be way too expensive but X58 LGA 1366 990X will hit that sweet spot.
Also suggest to me a good motherboard actually my new pc is gonna be for sound only (no need for video features)
GA-X58A-UD3R Rev.2 this motherboard does support the new Intel 32nm 6-core processors (X58 LGA 1366).
For RAM there are some options I don't know what to choose between Kingston Hyper X Corsair Dominator Patriot
My pick would be Corsair. This will need to be Triple Channel Kits. Also grab as much as you can afford. 24GB that's 6 DIMM Slots x 4GB Triple Channel. 2x 12 GB Kits 1600 or 1333.
For HDD there are also two options I don't know what to choose between WD caviar black Seagate Barracuda
Again my pick WD Caviar Black.

Malik
09-23-2011, 11:21 AM
Filosofem
Thanks man I appreciate what you said
So Let me ask you a question
You would prefer I7-990x as a perfect processor
What about I7-960 do you think it will be enough for my purpose?
I mean I7-990x (6-cores), I7-970 (6-cores) or I7-960 (quad core) which one would be enough?
Thanks again

Doven
09-23-2011, 12:39 PM
What are your needs. Most people can do a quad core. if your doing video with effects crunching on the same computer then you want the max processing you can afford.

Keep in mind the 990X has hyperthreading so you can get 12 virtual cores. But the price...ouch.

filosofem
09-23-2011, 01:50 PM
I mean I7-990x (6-cores), I7-970 (6-cores) or I7-960 (quad core) which one would be enough?
Malik, great question, foremost, what are your current needs and what are your future wants? These considerations are key to purchasing a DAW. Second, would be budget. For instance, I run Virtual Instruments, I need a DAW that will meet those needs. My plan is to incorporate video, I would also like a DAW that will meet that plan of video. Now my budget allows me these choices.

Intel Core i7-990X 6-Core being top of the range for X58 LGA 1366.
Intel Core i7-970 6-Core being middle range for X58 LGA 1366.
Intel Core i7-960 4-Core being lowest range for X58 LGA 1366.

Personally, 6-Core would be the logical answer to secure the future. 990X would depend on your budget. And although that may seem a lot of processing power, since Native is where it is at, you will need every last cycle. Software developers are just soaking up native processing as fast as consumers demand more and more from software. That is a good thing.

Doven
09-23-2011, 04:50 PM
Are most people here still using sata 2 drives? Anyone using sata 3 drives and in hot swap bays? If so to the latter, which bays do you use?

Smokewagon
09-24-2011, 01:07 PM
I'm assembling parts for a PT9 based DAW. I'm currently using a 3 year old gaming computer with Sonar and a RME Babyface.

I was hoping someone here could quickly look at my parts list for any obvious oversights. This is for a project/ home studio for a singer-songwriter.



Case- Antec Performance One series p183 v3. ATX Mid Tower

Power supply- Cooler Master Silent Pro M600 RS-600AMBA-D3 600w ATX12v v2.3. modular active PFC

Motherboard- ASRock p67 Extreme4 Gen3 LGA 1155 (no Fire-wire port but given my )

Processor- i7-2600k Sandy Bridge 3.4GHZ

RAM- 4 x 4 G.SKILL Sniper Low Voltage Series 240pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 (PC3 12800) model # F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2

video card- ASUS EAH5450 Radeon HD 5450 512MB

Soundcard- RME Babyface

All parts from Newegg except HD's, monitors, and such...


Thanks,

Matt

Malik
09-28-2011, 08:39 AM
Hi everybody
I have a question about HDD
Actually I decided to go with gigabyte motherboard (GA-X58A-UD3R) which is compatible with I7 processors 960 (socket LG 1336) the processor that I would go with

This motherboard has

South Bridge:
6 x SATA 3Gb/s connectors (SATA2_0, SATA2_1, SATA2_2, SATA2_3, SATA2_4, SATA2_5) supporting up to 6 SATA 3Gb/s devices
Support for SATA RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10
Marvell 9128 chip:
2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (GSATA3_6, GSATA3_7) supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
Support for SATA RAID 0, and RAID 1
* SATA3 RAID 0 4x and SATA3 2x performance are maximum theoretical values. Actual performance may vary by system configuration.
* SATA3 SSDs are not recommended for use in RAID 0 mode on Marvell SE9128 ports.

I'm gonna go with 3 HDDs (WD Caviar black)
1 for system files, 1 for protools sessions and 1 for sound libraries (samples)

my motherboard has only 2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors and I'm gonna buy 3 Hard disks which means that one hard disk will be SATA 3Gb/s

So what do you suggest to me do in this case
I mean the one that is SATA 3Gb/s what should I use it for
system files, protools sessions or samples in this

Thanks

EGS
09-28-2011, 08:59 AM
...3 HDDs (WD Caviar black)
1 for system files, 1 for protools sessions and 1 for sound libraries (samples)

my motherboard has only 2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors and I'm gonna buy 3 Hard disks which means that one hard disk will be SATA 3Gb/s

So what do you suggest to me do in this case
I mean the one that is SATA 3Gb/s what should I use it for
system files, protools sessions or samples in this

ThanksOn my build, I made the 3gb/s the system drive. Works great.

filosofem
09-28-2011, 07:41 PM
6 x SATA 3Gb/s connectors (SATA2_0, SATA2_1, SATA2_2, SATA2_3, SATA2_4, SATA2_5) supporting up to 6 SATA 3Gb/s devices
Support for SATA RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10
Marvell 9128 chip:
2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (GSATA3_6, GSATA3_7) supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
Running the System drive on GSATA makes very little noticeable difference. The same could be said for Samplers streaming audio. It's audio and audio doesn't reach the bandwidth of video for example. Seriously, SATA 2 0-5 will be fine. Besides, it's just only driver that needs installing. Speaking of drivers, do not install Intel INF Update Chipset driver. INF is a utility that checks for hardware and driver compatibility. GA-X58A-UD3R is Windows 7 supported meaning any chipset driver required is installed by Windows 7. Intel RST is not to be installed in IDE Mode. Both of these driver/utility combos will cause -909x Playback Errors.

albee1952
09-28-2011, 09:25 PM
Are most people here still using sata 2 drives? Anyone using sata 3 drives and in hot swap bays? If so to the latter, which bays do you use?
I use one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817990001
and a 3 slot version(keep the system drive in the single). My new build has a 4 slot, also from Kingwin(couldn't find it on newegg, even though I think I bought it there....or at tigerdirect.com). One thing to keep in mind is; if you want to hot swap(obviously not the system drive), you MUST have drives set to AHCI in BIOS. If you are set to IDE, you will need to shut down, swap and reboot. Also, for hot-swap, you should use the Safely Remove Hardware function.

giffinmike
09-30-2011, 06:22 PM
Hey guys,

I am looking to building a new computer. I built an Asus P5K Q6600 machine about 3 years ago that I have been using with really no problems since then. When I built it, I came here and gathered up info from other peoples builds, with the help of a friend as well. I am looking primarly to run Pro Tools 9 in windows 7 ultimate, a DIGI 003 and other DAW software with it. I have read through the forum and tried to piece together what I would want/need to achieve this. I really like to play it safe and am trying to model my future computer off of other peoples builds, to help ensure it would hopefully work without to many problems. I came across this build from Remis that interests me.

remis - PT9, Mbox 2 Pro, i7 950 @3.80GHz, Noctua NH-D14 CPU cooler, GA-X58A-UD3R, Corsair CMD12GX3M6A1600C8 12GB, SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X HD5770 1GB GDDR5 PCIE, W7 - 312 dverbs @ 64 buffer/ 403 dverbs @ 1024

I noticed that a number of the parts are out of stock in places and such and a little older. I run tons of vsts and sample libraries within pro tools. I was hoping to be able to install no less than 16 gigs of RAM, but could get away with 12 probably. Can anyone suggest a newer board or processor, etc. that would handle that amount of memory as well as being able to be overclocked and juiced up? I see tons of other configurations, but I am trying to figure out just the right combo of materials that would allow 16 gigs of ram, good overclocking abilities and still test well with dverbs and such. I am not to extremely knowledgable and don't understand as much as most about all the specific parts, etc.

Thanks so much guys!

filosofem
09-30-2011, 08:47 PM
I am looking to building a new computer.
Currently there are basically two choices LGA 1155 or LGA 1366. LGA 1366 is becoming long in the tooth but is still superior namely due to P67 and Z68 chipsets being under powered or otherwise supporting onboard graphics. Thus only leaving LGA 1366 Chipset X58 of which you have a more important choice between Bloomfield Core-i7 960 (Quad Core) and below or Gulftown Core-i7 970 and above (Six Core) including 990X. Both of these Nehalem processors support Triple Channel RAM meaning you'll either run one kit of 3x 4GB DIMM or 2 kits 3x of 4GB DIMM. Personally I would load up on as much RAM as you can afford. You may also like to check out Vienna Ensemble Pro where you can take full advantage of 24GB RAM (2 kits of 4GB DIMM) for hosting VSTi and RAM based sample libraries.

giffinmike
09-30-2011, 11:09 PM
Filosofem, you rock! Thanx that clears up alot and gets me much, much closer to ordering parts:-)....Ok, so bare with me here. If I understand what you said and went and found the right parts, does what I have below look like a good build for what I am trying to do? (Pro tools 9, DIGI 003, Windows ultimate 7 64 bit and be able to run tons of vsts and overclock it all)? I dont really care about great graphics, so what would be a bare minimum video card that would work well? Also, what type/power specs. of power supply would I need if I want to overclock this? I read that the cooler listed below should be good for overclocking. What do you think about any of it?

i7 960 = $299
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115224 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115224)

GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 = $199
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423&Tpk=GA-X58A-UD3R (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423&Tpk=GA-X58A-UD3R)

Kingston HyperX 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) XMP Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3K3/12GX = $85each (2) $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127)

CORSAIR CWCH50-1 High Performance CPU Cooler = $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010&Tpk=corsair%20cooling (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010&Tpk=corsair%20cooling)

PSU ???
Graphics card??

I'm trying to keep it all around $950 if possible.
Thanx guys!

filosofem
10-01-2011, 12:07 AM
Great pick processor, motherboard and RAM giffinmike. Try Noctua NH-U12P SE2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608014) CPU Cooler. I would also run Windows 7 Professional 64-bit OEM. No need for Windows Ultimate. Enermax Liberty Eco II (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194078) is the PSU I run, there maybe better Enermax power supplies but I would stick with Enermax. And a Radeon HD 6570 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102934) video card will work great too.

giffinmike
10-01-2011, 11:22 AM
Thanx again filosofem, you're the man!! I am going to order all those parts this weekend. I am also gonna check out the Vienna ensemble pro. That thing looks like a beast! I never even knew about it.... I was gonna use FX teleport to run vsts on my other computers. That may change! Part of what I was going to run was some of the East West software within Vienna perhaps. I saw that some of that companies software is on the incompatible list with vienna. So, I will demo it and see what works and what doesnt and we will see. Thanx a million again for helpin out!!:-)

filosofem
10-01-2011, 11:37 AM
You're welcome. Regarding VEP you will require an eLicense USB Key to demo.

filosofem
10-01-2011, 11:47 AM
Also giffinmike, when you install drivers for the Gigabyte board do not install Intel INF Chipset driver, perhaps stick to IDE Mode and therefore do not install Intel RST driver. Do not install any Utility and make sure you disable AMD External Event Utility in Run>msconfig>Services Tab. Doing so will most likely ensure no -909x playback errors. That includes disabling Azalia audio chip at BIOS level, so there is no reason to install that audio driver neither. Realtek LAN Driver is possibly the only driver you may require. Windows 7 will install any needed driver by default given that the board is supported by Windows 7.

filosofem
10-01-2011, 06:16 PM
ATI driver, giffinmike, only the display driver is needed. Make sure you grab the latest display driver from ATI.

giffinmike
10-02-2011, 11:54 AM
Awesome filosofem! I ordered all the parts plus a Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced case for it all. I will follow those instructions and hopefully wont have any problems and have to bother anybody. Thanks again and I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed.;) If you think of anything else feel free to let me know.

giffinmike
10-03-2011, 06:12 PM
Hey Filosofem,

I just got all my parts and was brushing up on your driver installation advice. I had a couple of questions. You had mentioned IDE mode. Would it cause any big problems if I ran AHCI mode from the BIOS? I don't know to much about it, but I have been running a dual boot machine on my ASUS P5K with no problem, Windows 7 and Snow leopard. I'm wondering if it would work well here on the Gigabyte? I looked on the Gigabyte driver website and it looks like if I did use AHCI, I would maybe have to download other drivers as well for the SATA2 and such?? Also I opened up the BIOS on the Gigabyte and poked around for a bit. Is there any place that you recomend for BIOS tweaks on this board that work the best? I looked on the first page of the forum and found Windows 7 optimizations tips and such for the operating system, but I want to overclock the board at some point and am trying to find the best info on BIOS tweaks and overclocking info.....Lastly, what BIOS revision is the best one to make sure I have? Thanks for your guys's help as always!!

filosofem
10-03-2011, 07:54 PM
Hi giffinmike, the only problem I found with AHCI was the associated drivers. Under AHCI these drivers and utilities would cause -909x playback errors. Uninstalling those drivers and utilities, switching back to IDE mode ceased -909x playback errors. I know a couple of people that have switched back to IDE because AHCI was messing them around.

Regarding BIOS, there is not a lot of tweaking to do, disable Azalia audio chip would be the most important. There are a few other minor tweaks but at this stage of need a working configuration. Just double check MIT that your Memory Freq is running at 1333 or higher depending on your spec.

giffinmike
10-04-2011, 12:10 AM
Hey Filosofem,

Man, I hope I didnt mess this up....probably..lol...I got all the stuff you recommended, except the Enermax Liberty Eco II (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194078) PSU. I was approaching my budget and was trying to save money. I though the place to do that would've been on the PSU... I ended up getting the Rosewill RV2-700 700W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Ready Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182173) from Newegg.com......Anyhow I cannot for the life of me get this Radeon HD 6570 graphics card to install and work properly. Everytime I try and install the drivers with both my monitors plugged in, either the installation fails (tried many different driver versions) or I can install the drivers with just one monitor plugged in and run just one monitor and everything sort of runs (ok). The moment I plug in both monitors with the ATI drivers installed, it freezes and keeps giving me a BSOD atikmpg.sys error. If the ATI drivers aren't installed, both monitors will show up, but as a mirrored display image. I tried taking half the memory out, also switching the video card from the PCI 16 slot to the PCI 8 slot. None of that worked. I googled and found some people having the same problem. One of the solutions was using a proper or different PSU, while others were using different driver versions, memory and a few others. Can using different PSU's really cause these problems. Do you have any ideas on this or have experienced this? Thankx!!!

giffinmike
10-04-2011, 12:44 AM
Hey Filosofem,

One more thing from last post...I tried puting my older Nvidia Geforce 8500 GT card into the Gigabyte board that I had in my ASUS P5K Q6600 computer. It works fine and does everything it should on the Gigabyte board, of course I'd like to use the new Radeon...Don't know if that helps you or makes a difference for my situation, but thought I would just add that to the situation. Thankx a million!!!

Norm Mix
10-04-2011, 09:36 AM
Hey You Guys ...... I need some advice please...
I want to upgrade from XP, to Windows 7, and upgrade to Pro Tools 9, and max out my ram... What should I do? ... Try to keep my old ram and add to it? Or or toss it and go with all new?... How much will my system hold? Is this good and, will it work in my Computer? ...
Kingston HyperX 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) XMP Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3K3/12GX = $85each (2) $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127)

I'm not a tech head.... I had this computer built for me ...
Any help from anyone is appreciated !!! Thanks!
Here is a Sandra report of part of my system........
SiSoftware Sandra

Computer
Manufacturer : Gigabyte
Model : EX58-UD3R
ID : 00000000-00000000-24000000-EDE1121D

Computer Chassis
Manufacturer : Gigabyte
Type : Desktop
Can be locked : No

Mainboard
Manufacturer : Gigabyte
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processing (MPS) Version : 1.40
Model : EX58-UD3R
Version : x.x
BIOS : 12/30/2008-X58-ICH10-7A89QG0AC-00
Chipset : A89Q

Computer Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 4
Maximum Installable Memory : 4GB
Bank0/1 - A0 : DIMM 1GB/256 @ 400MHz
Bank2/3 - A1 : Empty
Bank4/5 - A2 : DIMM 1GB/256 @ 400MHz
Bank6/7 - A3 : Empty

Chipset
Model : Giga-Byte X58 I/O Hub
OEM Device Name : Intel X58 I/O Hub
Revision : B3
Bus : Intel CSI (Quick Path)
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.4GHz (4.79GHz)
Maximum FSB Speed : 2x 3.2GHz (6.4GHz)
Width : 20-bit / 20-bit
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
SLI Technology : Yes
Crossfire Technology : Yes
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 18.7GB/s
Maximum Power : 24.10W

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : Hub-Interface
Version : 2.00
Number of Ports : 4
In/Out Width : 16-bit
Full Duplex : Yes
Multiplier : 2x

Chipset
Model : Giga-Byte Core Desktop (Bloomfield) UnCore
OEM Device Name : Intel Core Desktop (Bloomfield) UnCore
Revision : A5
Bus : Intel CSI (Quick Path)
Version : 1.00
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.4GHz (4.79GHz)
Maximum FSB Speed : 2x 16.76GHz (33.52GHz)
Width : 20-bit / 20-bit
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
I/O Queue Depth : 64 request(s)
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 18.7GB/s

Chipset 2 Hub Interface
Type : Intel CSI (Quick Path)
Version : 1.00
In/Out Width : 20-bit / 20-bit
Full Duplex : No
Multiplier : 18x
Speed : 2x 2.4GHz (4.79GHz)
I/O Queue Depth : 5 request(s)

Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 1GB DIMM DDR3 7-8-8-20 4-28-9-5 1T
Bank 3 : 1GB DIMM DDR3 8-8-8-20 4-28-9-5 1T
Bank 6 : 1GB DIMM DDR3 8-8-8-20 4-28-9-5 1T
Maximum Installable Memory : 48GB
Supported Memory Types : DIMM DDR3 Scrubbing
Channels : 3
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 532MHz (1GHz)
Maximum Memory Speed : 2x 2GHz (4GHz)
Multiplier : 4x
Width : 64-bit
Integrated in Processor : Yes
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 25GB/s

APIC 1
Model : Intel QPI I/O Hub I/O xAPIC Interrupt Controller
Revision : B3
Version : 2.00
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

APIC 2
Model : Intel Trusted Execution Technology Registers
Revision : B3
Version : 2.00
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

Memory Module
Manufacturer : Mushkin
Model : 991583 996583
Type : 1GB DIMM DDR3
Technology : 8x(1024Mx8)
Speed : PC3-10700U DDR3-1334
Standard Timings : 9-9-9-24 4-33-10-5
Version : 1.00
Timing @ 444MHz : 6-6-6-16 3-22-7-3
Timing @ 593MHz : 8-8-8-21 4-29-9-4
Timing @ 667MHz : 9-9-9-24 4-33-10-5

Memory Module
Manufacturer : Mushkin
Model : 991583 996583
Type : 1GB DIMM DDR3
Technology : 8x(1024Mx8)
Speed : PC3-10700U DDR3-1334
Standard Timings : 9-9-9-24 4-33-10-5
Version : 1.00
Timing @ 444MHz : 6-6-6-16 3-22-7-3
Timing @ 593MHz : 8-8-8-21 4-29-9-4
Timing @ 667MHz : 9-9-9-24 4-33-10-5

Memory Module
Manufacturer : Mushkin
Model : 991583 996583
Type : 1GB DIMM DDR3
Technology : 8x(1024Mx8)
Speed : PC3-10700U DDR3-1334
Standard Timings : 9-9-9-24 4-33-10-5
Version : 1.00
Timing @ 444MHz : 6-6-6-16 3-22-7-3
Timing @ 593MHz : 8-8-8-21 4-29-9-4
Timing @ 667MHz : 9-9-9-24 4-33-10-5

Sensors 1
Model : ITE IT8720F LPC
Version : 5.00
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Sensors 2
Model : Intel Core CPU [P0, C4, T100]
Version : 26.04
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Sensors 3
Model : ITE ITE820X SMB
Version : 0.18
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 34.00°C

giffinmike
10-04-2011, 01:05 PM
Hey Norm Mix. Some of your situation looks like what I am going through. I just upgraded from an old ASUS P5k Q6600 setup with winxp. I just changed to Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit and just ordered a gigabyte board with 24 gigs of the same RAMi believe. You can actually go a a few posts back and follow what I ordered. I also just upgraded to Pro Tools 9 as well. So far everything on my build seems to be fine, except my video card and PSU combination perhaps.....i am getting a better PSU as I type this today...Anyhow, I am not a super tech head as well, but Filosofem was kind enough to help me figure out what parts i need and such. I put all the parts together and with all the memory and everything it seems fine so far, except for that one hiccup with video and PSU, but that should be sorted out here in a little bit. I cant offer a ton of help so far, but with my trying my older video card, windows recognised the memory and pro tools launched just fine. I tried to stick with what other members configurations were and ones that were trusted. I can keep you abreast of my progress as I test everything out further if you would like. I didn't look at your whole configuration, but was seeing if I could offer any help. Lemme know if I can. Thanks and good luck to both of us!!!:-)

Norm Mix
10-04-2011, 05:40 PM
Hey Norm Mix. Some of your situation looks like what I am going through. I just upgraded from an old ASUS P5k Q6600 setup with winxp. I just changed to Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit and just ordered a gigabyte board with 24 gigs of the same RAMi believe. You can actually go a a few posts back and follow what I ordered. I also just upgraded to Pro Tools 9 as well. So far everything on my build seems to be fine, except my video card and PSU combination perhaps.....i am getting a better PSU as I type this today...Anyhow, I am not a super tech head as well, but Filosofem was kind enough to help me figure out what parts i need and such. I put all the parts together and with all the memory and everything it seems fine so far, except for that one hiccup with video and PSU, but that should be sorted out here in a little bit. I cant offer a ton of help so far, but with my trying my older video card, windows recognised the memory and pro tools launched just fine. I tried to stick with what other members configurations were and ones that were trusted. I can keep you abreast of my progress as I test everything out further if you would like. I didn't look at your whole configuration, but was seeing if I could offer any help. Lemme know if I can. Thanks and good luck to both of us!!!:-)

giffinmike
Thanks! Do you think my system will take 24 Gigs of Ram?

giffinmike
10-04-2011, 06:28 PM
Hey Norm Mix,

I looked up that board, and if it is a Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R like I saw in your config, the max memory that board supports is 16 gig. So no on the 24.

Norm Mix
10-04-2011, 08:52 PM
Hey Norm Mix,

I looked up that board, and if it is a Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R like I saw in your config, the max memory that board supports is 16 gig. So no on the 24.

Thanks... giffinmike !
Would this work for me too?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127)

Nightworker
10-05-2011, 09:34 AM
Looking at my specs, and this thread. I'm thinking it might be just time for me to upgrade :D

Soooo I saw this MB GA-X58A-UD3R Rev.2 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3449#ov), has dual cpu capabilities, 24 gb of DDR3 ram, and woohoo an integrated TI IEEE firewire capabilities.

I'd like to know if any one has successfully mounted a dual cpu rig with this mobo, using i7 9xx, or the xeon 6/8 cores?

Also does anyone know if you can disable a sli configuration with a dual boot system? This might make it even more worth the expenditure if I can have a dual use of this set up.

giffinmike
10-05-2011, 11:53 AM
Thanks... giffinmike !
Would this work for me too?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127)

Hey Norm Mix. I'm not for sure. I wouln't wanna tell ya any wrong information. I googled searched for a minute but didn't find an exact answer. Try googling the name of that memory with the name of your motherboard and see if you can find any links that mention it or mention it might be supported. I know it should only be able to take 16 gigs total. sorry, wish i could say for sure. Someone else may jump in and let ya know. :-)

Nightworker
10-05-2011, 12:47 PM
Well I just realized that the gigabite board was a single cpu slot.... d'oh.. anyone tried this one yet?

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=270-WS-W555-A2&family=Motherboard%20Family&series=All%20Motherboards&sw=5

filosofem
10-05-2011, 08:49 PM
Would this work for me too?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127)
That kit is triple channel which is supported by the EX58 board however I'd look up if you can populate three DIMM slots.

filosofem
10-05-2011, 08:54 PM
giffinmik, from time to time, I get BSOD directed at the video card but this said I've heard of others getting BSOD with Nvidia so perhaps the problem is with the motherboard, I'm not sure but if you have a working video card, roll with it. ;)

giffinmike
10-06-2011, 03:25 PM
giffinmik, from time to time, I get BSOD directed at the video card but this said I've heard of others getting BSOD with Nvidia so perhaps the problem is with the motherboard, I'm not sure but if you have a working video card, roll with it. ;)

Understandable, thank you again sir!! Everything else is flying along and this Vienna Ensemble idea, it's amazing. I'm able to load so much stuff, it's incredible. You're the man and thanks for your help.:D

filosofem
10-06-2011, 06:08 PM
I'm just the messenger, giffinmik, but I'm glad your new rig is working out fine for you. :cool:

philip888
10-07-2011, 06:26 AM
Hey guys!

My set up started having some problems this past week.
I pinned the problem down to a hard drive going bad and the Motherboard.

I have the GA-X58-UD3R. Which is bad.

I am replacing it with the GA-X58A-UD3R.

So my question is to All GA-X58A-UD3R Users.

Newegg could not tell me if the board I will get is REV 1.0 or REV 2.0.

REV 1.0 users what BIOS version are you using?

REV 2.0 users what BIOS version are you using?

Thanks

Philip

filosofem
10-07-2011, 11:14 AM
Hey Philip, BIOS revisions for Rev.1 are capital letter followed by a number and Rev.2 are two capital letters. Rev.1 F6 Rev.2 FF.

Doven
10-09-2011, 02:44 AM
I'd like to know if any one has successfully mounted a dual cpu rig with this mobo, using i7 9xx, or the xeon 6/8 cores?



It does?

Emcha_audio
10-09-2011, 03:55 PM
It does?

no it doesn't

philip888
10-10-2011, 10:28 PM
Thanks.

The new MB is in GA-EX58A-UD3R.

All is installed and running.

I am using PT 9.0.3.

All optimizations have been done.

But I am getting a system freeze using PT and the audio gets jammed into a loud BUZZZZ.

My 003R using the onboard firewire port is this a problem on this board?

It worked fine on the GA-EX58-UD3R.

Any ideas?

SiSoftware Sandra

Computer
Model : GigaByte X58A-UD3R
Workgroup : WORKGROUP
Host Name : AVW7
User : Philip

Processor
Model : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz
Speed : 4GHz
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 2 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
Integrated Data Cache : 4x 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L2 Cache : 4x 256kB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L3 Cache : 8MB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 16-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size, 16 threads sharing

Computer
Mainboard : GigaByte X58A-UD3R
BIOS : Award (OEM) FF 02/18/2011
Bus(es) : X-Bus PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : Yes
Total Memory : 12GB DIMM DDR3

Chipset
Model : Giga-Byte X58 I/O Hub
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 3.6GHz (7.2GHz)

Chipset
Model : Giga-Byte Core Desktop (Bloomfield) UnCore
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 3.6GHz (7.2GHz)
Total Memory : 12GB DIMM DDR3
Channels : 3
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 800MHz (1.6GHz)

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Mushkin 991776 998776 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Mushkin 991776 998776 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Mushkin 991776 998776 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5)

Video System
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT (64 SM4.0 1.5GHz, 512MB DDR3 1.8GHz 256-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT (64 SM4.0 1.5GHz, 512MB DDR3 1.8GHz 256-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor
OpenCL GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT (64SP 8C 1.5GHz, 512MB DDR3 1.8GHz 256-bit)
Compute Shader Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT (64SP 1.5GHz, 512MB DDR3 1.8GHz 256-bit)

Storage Devices
WDC WD7502AAEX-00Y9A0 (750.2GB, SATA, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 699GB (D:)
WDC WD5001AALS-00J7B1 (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 32MB Cache) : 466GB (E:)
Seagate ST31500341AS (1.5TB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 1TB (F:)
WDC WD6401AALS-00J7B0 (640.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 32MB Cache) : 596GB (C:)
Seagate ST31500341AS (1.5TB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 1TB (G:)
HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GH22NP20 (ATA66, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (H:)

Logical Storage Devices
Pro Tools (D:) : 699GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD7502AAEX-00Y9A0 (750.2GB, SATA, 3.5", 7200rpm)
AVW888 (E:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD5001AALS-00J7B1 (500.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 32MB Cache)
AVID (F:) : 1TB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST31500341AS (1.5TB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm)
AVW7 (C:) : 596GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD6401AALS-00J7B0 (640.1GB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 32MB Cache)
Avid Assets (G:) : 1TB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST31500341AS (1.5TB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm)
Optical Drive (H:) : N/A @ HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GH22NP20 (ATA66, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : Giga-Byte LPC Interface Controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : ITE IT8720F
Disk Controller : Giga-Byte 4 port SATA IDE Controller
Disk Controller : Giga-Byte 2 port SATA IDE Controller
Disk Controller : Giga-Byte 88SE91A3 SATA-600 Controller
Disk Controller : Giga-Byte JMB36X PCIE-to-SATAII/IDE RAID Controller
Disk Controller : Giga-Byte JMB36X PCIE-to-SATAII/IDE RAID Controller
USB Controller 1 : Giga-Byte USB UHCI Controller #4
USB Controller 2 : Giga-Byte USB UHCI Controller #5
USB Controller 3 : Giga-Byte USB UHCI Controller #6
USB Controller 4 : Giga-Byte USB EHCI Controller #2
USB Controller 5 : Giga-Byte USB UHCI Controller #1
USB Controller 6 : Giga-Byte USB UHCI Controller #2
USB Controller 7 : Giga-Byte USB UHCI Controller #3
USB Controller 8 : Giga-Byte USB EHCI Controller #1
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : Giga-Byte TSB43AB23 1394a-2000 OHCI PHY/link-layer Controller
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel ICH SMBus

Printers and Faxes
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Fax : Microsoft Shared Fax Driver (200x200)

Network Services
Network Adapter : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (Ethernet, 100Mbps)

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.01.7600
Platform Compliance : x64

Windows Experience Index
Current System : 5.9

filosofem
10-10-2011, 10:46 PM
Hey Philip, well you're running a GA-X58A-UD3R Rev.2 board. BIOS FF. What frequency is the RAM setting? 1333 MHz or 1600 MHz. Can you double check in BIOS MIT. Check once, reboot and check again.

Internal SATA in IDE Mode? What drivers have you installed regarding the motherboard.

And in regard to running Avid FW hardware with the onboard TI chip, I haven't read many if any problems.

philip888
10-10-2011, 10:53 PM
Bios FF
BCLK 200
CPU Freq 4000
MEM FREQ 1600

Vcore 1.296
DRAM Voltage 1.632

mano111
10-13-2011, 04:15 AM
Bios FF
BCLK 200
CPU Freq 4000
MEM FREQ 1600

Vcore 1.296
DRAM Voltage 1.632

Looks like your overclock to 4 ghz is unstable. This can be because of insufficient voltage or cooling. Try running at CPU's stock speed first.

AAD
10-15-2011, 09:50 AM
Hi all :)

Calling for any advice / help from Gigabyte X58A-UDR3 owners.

I've had a system custom built here in the UK, using a lot of the advice given on this forum so thanks all.

My only problem is, my 003R is not being seen or recognised at all when plugged into the on-board FW port, i also plugged in a Lacie d2 Quadro into the same FW port to see if it was seen and it wasn't, tried both combinations of the cable that worked on my old system yesterday and the new cable provided with the new Lacie Drive, neither even made any impression on the PnP system.

So far I've re-installed Win 7 x64 Pro with ACHI and put in the newest drivers only from the Avid site.

SiSoft below .. i can't understand what's in error atm, any advice appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
aaron.


SiSoftware Sandra

Computer
Model : GigaByte X58A-UD3R
Workgroup : WORKGROUP
Host Name : AADDAW
User : AAD

Processor
Model : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz
Speed : 3.33GHz
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 2 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
Integrated Data Cache : 4x 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L2 Cache : 4x 256kB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L3 Cache : 8MB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 16-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size, 16 threads sharing

Computer
Mainboard : GigaByte X58A-UD3R
BIOS : Award (OEM) FF 02/18/2011
Bus(es) : X-Bus PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : Yes
Total Memory : 12GB DIMM DDR3

Chipset
Model : Giga-Byte X58 I/O Hub
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.4GHz (4.79GHz)

Chipset
Model : Giga-Byte Core Desktop (Bloomfield) UnCore
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.4GHz (4.79GHz)
Total Memory : 12GB DIMM DDR3
Channels : 3
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 798MHz (1.6GHz)

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Corsair CM3X2G1600C9B6 2GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CM3X2G1600C9B6 2GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CM3X2G1600C9B6 2GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CM3X2G1600C9B6 2GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CM3X2G1600C9B6 2GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CM3X2G1600C9B6 2GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)

Video System
Video Adapter : ATI Radeon HD 5670 (400 SM5.0 775MHz, 1GB DDR5 4GHz 128-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor
OpenCL GP Processor : ATI Radeon HD 5670 (400SP 5C 775MHz, 1GB DDR5 4GHz 128-bit)
Compute Shader Processor : ATI Radeon HD 5670 (400SP 775MHz, 1GB DDR5 4GHz 128-bit)
STREAM GP Processor : ATI Radeon HD 5670 (400SP 5C 775MHz, 1GB DDR5 4GHz 128-bit)

Storage Devices
WDC WD5002AALX-00J37A0 (500.1GB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm, 32MB Cache) : 466GB (C:)
WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 932GB (E:)
WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 932GB (D:)
HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 (SATA150, BD-RE, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 4MB Cache) : N/A (F:)

Logical Storage Devices
Hard Disk (C:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD5002AALX-00J37A0 (500.1GB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm, 32MB Cache)
Hard Disk (E:) : 932GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm)
Hard Disk (D:) : 932GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm)
Optical Drive (F:) : N/A @ HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 (SATA150, BD-RE, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 4MB Cache)

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : Giga-Byte LPC Interface Controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : ITE IT8720F
Audio Device : PC Partner Redwood HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5600 Series]
Disk Controller : Giga-Byte 6 port SATA AHCI Controller
Disk Controller : Giga-Byte 88SE9128 SATA-600 Controller
Disk Controller : Giga-Byte JMB36X PCIE-to-SATAII/IDE RAID Controller
Disk Controller : Giga-Byte JMB36X PCIE-to-SATAII/IDE RAID Controller
Disk Controller : Giga-Byte JMB36X PCIE-to-SATAII/IDE RAID Controller
USB Controller 1 : Giga-Byte USB UHCI Controller #4
USB Controller 2 : Giga-Byte USB UHCI Controller #5
USB Controller 3 : Giga-Byte USB UHCI Controller #6
USB Controller 4 : Giga-Byte USB EHCI Controller #2
USB Controller 5 : Giga-Byte USB UHCI Controller #1
USB Controller 6 : Giga-Byte USB UHCI Controller #2
USB Controller 7 : Giga-Byte USB UHCI Controller #3
USB Controller 8 : Giga-Byte USB EHCI Controller #1
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : Giga-Byte TSB43AB23 1394a-2000 OHCI PHY/link-layer Controller
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel ICH SMBus

Printers and Faxes
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Fax : Microsoft Shared Fax Driver (200x200)

Network Services
Network Adapter : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (Ethernet, 100Mbps)

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.01.7601 (Service Pack 1)
Platform Compliance : x64

filosofem
10-15-2011, 01:00 PM
my 003R is not being seen or recognised at all when plugged into the on-board FW port
Does Device Manager display any Yellow Exclamation Marks? What FW Port are you using? What Drivers have you installed?

AAD
10-15-2011, 01:31 PM
Hi,

I have no exclamation marks, and everything is ENABLED in the bios as far as i can see.

Drivers, I've installed the NEC USB3.0, the Gigabyte ACHI and the realtek ethernet drivers.

I Installed the AVID 003/002 rack drivers from the website before turning my 003R on.

Besides my ATi drivers and windows updates, these were all I had on the system.

In Device Manager, it shows IEEE1394 host, which i updated to the legacy as shown on Avid's and this forums advice areas, the Bios shows Firewire as Enabled.

This is why i'm stumped :S .. all seems in order.

Any thoughts welcomed :)

Thanks,
aaron.

AAD
10-15-2011, 02:03 PM
oh .. and the Firewire port is the Motherboard's own, after others mentioned it worked well in the same board.

I have the SIIG PCi card in my old machine, i could try this out .. but i'm wondering why the mobo one isn't seeming active.


a.

filosofem
10-15-2011, 02:50 PM
I have the SIIG PCi card in my old machine, i could try this out .. but i'm wondering why the mobo one isn't seeming active.
Does seem odd. Have you tried the FW port on the front of your tower? Ummm... I'd use that SIIG card anyways. ;)

DSG LABEL
10-22-2011, 08:53 PM
So can a native system still out-perform the new HDX with 3 cards?

filosofem
10-22-2011, 08:54 PM
So can a native system still out-perform the new HDX with 3 cards?
What a silly question, of course it can. :p

albee1952
10-23-2011, 05:37 PM
oh .. and the Firewire port is the Motherboard's own, after others mentioned it worked well in the same board.

I have the SIIG PCi card in my old machine, i could try this out .. but i'm wondering why the mobo one isn't seeming active.


a.
It may just be a driver issue. If you select to update the driver, and then select to choose which driver you want, there should be 3 options listed; the Legacy driver, a TI driver and a 3rd choice I can't remember. Try the other 2(since the one you are using is not working). While Avid generally recommends using the Legacy driver, it turned my 003 into a midi note generator(each button would cause a note to play on any VI in the session). The TI driver is the one that works for me:rolleyes:

bonneybear
10-28-2011, 05:44 AM
Hi everyone, I need to build a new computer and upgrade to PT10. My old comp. is P4 2.8, 1 gig ram, 1 sata 120 gig hd, and 1 scsi 18 gig hd. running xp pro and PT 7.1 with Digi 003 rack
I called a local comp store and they put a quote for $1200 for a build. But after looking at the systems you guys build I think your components are better and more suited for recording.
My budget is around $1000, I would like a rack mount case. I also need firewire 400 to hook in my DM-4800 which will be my new interface replacing the Digi 002
Can you please list components that work together well and is stable? Thanks. I'm not computer illiterate just a little slow, so speak slowly,,, :?> Thanks

filosofem
10-28-2011, 01:27 PM
bonneybear, I'm going to be straight up, you have three choices, X58 LGA 1366 which was yesterdays processor, P67 LGA 1155 which is todays processor and then there is X79 LGA 2011 which is tomorrows processor.

The skinny on these processors is that X58 (Intel Core i7 9xx) first generation is becoming too long in the tooth. P67 namely Intel Core i7-2600K second generation host on-die graphics processing and isn't really suitable but workable for Pro Tools and finally X79 Intel Core i7-3xxx third generation. Not a lot is known about this combo as it should ship in about three weeks however Intel Core i7-3xxx combines the best of first generation and second generation processing.

Point is I wonder if you would be better off holding off for a few weeks til perhaps Intel Core i7-3820 or Intel Core i7-3930K ships?

bonneybear
10-28-2011, 06:53 PM
Thanks for the quick response, if I wait for the new processor should I then wait till it is proven to be a suitable candidate for pro-tools? or do you have that info already?

filosofem
10-28-2011, 07:30 PM
if I wait for the new processor should I then wait till it is proven to be a suitable candidate for pro-tools?
Excellent question, that is to be proven, yes. X79 Chipset is more then likely going to be successfully with Pro Tools given X79 is the decedent of X58. Unlike Intel Core i7-26xx series and it's related Chipsets, Intel Core i7-38xx and 39xx both do not host on-die graphic processors pointing to third generation being more successful over the second generation regarding Pro Tools.

Even though we do have users with Intel Core i7-26xx systems, there are not as many as Intel Core i7-9xx systems that still reign supreme. However, as old as the first generation is, personally, I think advising to go with a second generation system at this moment with a new system about to drop is not being very responsible.

Budget is going to be key, each day X58 LGA 1366 (Intel Core i7-9xx) is dropping in price and I'll make no bones about X79 LGA 2011 (Intel Core i7-38xx/39xx) is not going to be cheap. Even an Intel Core i7-3820 is going to knock you back $300 USD. Core i7-960 is about that same price.

Friend
11-06-2011, 07:37 PM
Thanks for the quick response, if I wait for the new processor should I then wait till it is proven to be a suitable candidate for pro-tools? or do you have that info already?

Alot of gamers will be selling their LGA 1366 rigs in the next month or so - as they prepare for new builds. You can pickup a complete pc, ready to go, between $500 & $700 on ebay & kijiji. The graphics card and power supply will most likely exceed your music production needs, but buying a used pc is easy and cheap. If you buy used, make sure to ask them to reset the bios to stock settings.

bonneybear
11-08-2011, 02:15 PM
Yes, thats what I was thinking, buying a used system rather then a new one that would be obsolete soon, or pay top dollar for new tech. When is the new stuff coming out again?

Friend
11-08-2011, 03:53 PM
Yes, thats what I was thinking, buying a used system rather then a new one that would be obsolete soon, or pay top dollar for new tech. When is the new stuff coming out again?


Nov 14th for the new X79 LGA 2011, around $583.00 for the Core i7 3930K.

bonneybear
11-09-2011, 04:18 AM
Nice, is there anyone on this forum looking to make that upgrade and sell me their old system? is there still marketplace buy/sell on this forum?

TOM@METRO
11-19-2011, 03:29 PM
I looks like I'm going with this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801) board.

filosofem
11-19-2011, 05:57 PM
I looks like I'm going with this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801) board.
Yep. Tom what after market CPU heat sink are you going with, air or liquid? These processors aren't supplied with factory heat sinks.

cstar610
11-19-2011, 07:14 PM
I'm sorry to jumping on the random forum, But I need help setting up my pro tools and everything I usually just go to my engineers house but since we're in different states I figured I buy everything myself, he's usually beyond busy and cannot come out and help I finally got sound coming out from the mbox into my krks but I can barely record the sound is HORRIBLE please help

soundmaster
11-20-2011, 02:23 AM
I looks like I'm going with this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801) board.
This has two active fans on it. Should be quiet noisy.
Does anyone know a similar board (with PCI) with passive cooling?
(I want to keep my 1820m)
THX

PS: got one :-) Gigabyte GA-X79-UD5

filosofem
11-20-2011, 06:04 PM
PS: got one :-) Gigabyte GA-X79-UD5
Can you keep us posted on how that Gigabyte board works for you, please? And what Avid I/O are you running?

soundmaster
11-21-2011, 01:17 PM
I don´t know if I start building this year. Just collecting parts and thoughts. But if so - I´ll be sharing :-)
No AVID I/O - EMU 1820m is fine for me.

TOM@METRO
11-22-2011, 03:58 PM
This has two active fans on it. Should be quiet noisy.
Does anyone know a similar board (with PCI) with passive cooling?
(I want to keep my 1820m)
THX

PS: got one :-) Gigabyte GA-X79-UD5
I doubt these are high speed fans, I'll let you know. I have a separate computer area so it won't matter much.

dstryrwiz
11-28-2011, 01:31 AM
Yep. Tom what after market CPU heat sink are you going with, air or liquid? These processors aren't supplied with factory heat sinks.

I was actually recommended on another forum to go with a Noctua NH-D14 air cooler even over a Corsair H100 water cooler, so maybe something to look into?

filosofem
11-28-2011, 05:45 PM
I was actually recommended on another forum to go with a Noctua NH-D14 air cooler even over a Corsair H100 water cooler, so maybe something to look into?
Yeah Noctua are top of the line and you can't go wrong with Noctua.

philip888
11-28-2011, 06:04 PM
Yeah Noctua are top of the line and you can't go wrong with Noctua.

+1 for the Noctua.

Have it and am Wowed by it.

nicnac712
11-30-2011, 07:45 PM
I JUST BOUGHT MY ASUS SABERTOOTH X79 BOARD AND i7 3930K JUST BUILT IT Will POST MY RESULTS AS SOON AS I GET IT UP AND RUNNING I HOPE THIS IS BETTER THAN MY i7 2600 GYGABYTE BOARD BUILD :( ANY SUGGESTIONS ON INSTALL PROCEDURE?

dstryrwiz
11-30-2011, 08:10 PM
Out of curiosity, besides the PCI slot in the Sabertooth, what appeal does it have over the other motherboards? I've been considering the ASUS P9X79 DELUXE and the ASRock X79 Extreme9, but I didn't know if there's something I should be looking for that would set all of these motherboards more apart?

dstryrwiz
12-02-2011, 02:46 AM
I did a bit of research into RAM speeds and timings and it appears that there could actually be an advantage by going with much higher speed RAM (assuming overclocking) as there was supposedly a noticed difference between the 1066MHz RAM and the 1333MHz RAM in practical usage. For example this is a list I derived of the latencies caused by each of a handful of types of RAM (going off of their rated ability assuming overclocking on the higher speed RAM to hit the manufacturer's stock ratings). I don't know if it just goes into the realm of unnecessary headroom, or maybe it may be useful for other Pro Tools users.

Speed (in MHz)/CAS Latency = RAM Latency (in nanoseconds)
1066/7=13.1
1333/9=13.5
1333/7=10.5
1600/9=11.3
1600/7=8.8
2133/11=10.3
2133/9=8.4

This is more geared towards the Sandy Bridge-e series, although I included the prior ratings for a comparison, so it's worth noting that currently the only 1600MHz RAM supporting the 7 CAS Latency rating I could find supporting quad channel RAM was a set by Mushkin Enhanced that is currently priced right around the same price, if not slightly higher, than G Skill's 2133MHz kits with 9 CAS Latency (which for like the next week newegg is selling at $150 with a promo code for the 4x4 kits vs the Mushkin at $190-200). I don't know if in practical usage these numbers will make much of a difference, however when moving from 1066/7 to 1333/7 there was a roughly 2.6ns speed increase, then when moving from 1333/7 to 2133/9 and having a 2.1ns speed increase, I'd assume that may be noticeable. Also with having the stock timings higher on the higher speed RAM, they may possibly be able to be decreased even by 1 over their ratings, making the latency be 7.5ns, therefore a difference of 3ns over the 1333/7 time. All of this may be unnecessary once you reach speeds in this range, but it's something to think about. If anyone may be able to weigh in on this more, I would gladly hear your thoughts, especially as I'm still a little on the fence about whether going with the 2133/9 RAM will be worth it or not, and if so, I'd like to order it at the current $30 discount (that is unless there's a specific reason I should be avoiding G Skill and their Ripjaw lines).

filosofem
12-02-2011, 03:01 PM
so it's worth noting that currently the only 1600MHz RAM supporting the 7 CAS Latency rating I could find supporting quad channel RAM was a set by Mushkin Enhanced that is currently priced right around the same price, if not slightly higher, than G Skill's 2133MHz kits with 9 CAS Latency (which for like the next week newegg is selling at $150 with a promo code for the 4x4 kits vs the Mushkin at $190-200). I don't know if in practical usage these numbers will make much of a difference
I stand corrected, the 7 CAS Latency rating would be most beneficial with 32 GB and greater, like 8x8.

dstryrwiz
12-02-2011, 05:16 PM
I stand corrected, the 7 CAS Latency rating would be most beneficial with 32 GB and greater, like 8x8.

The problem with the CAS figure is that it's not a constant, it's based off of the clock speed, as it's rated by the latency in regards to clock cycles, therefore even if a higher speed RAM has a higher CAS latency, it's true latency in regards to how long it would take to process would be lower. It also depends on how much higher the latency is, as for example with what I pointed out, the 1600/7 Mushkin chip still performed with higher latency than the 2133/9 G Skill chip, even though the Mushkin chip offered a lower CAS rating. They are close, I'll give them that, but technically the calculations still put the G Skill as lower overall latency, and cheaper than the Mushkin, but are there advantages with going with Mushkin over G Skill that I'm missing?

RQQST3R
12-22-2011, 04:11 PM
The wealth of knowledge here is nothing short of epic. Big thanks to everyone who knows what they knows

SUPER_STEVE
12-24-2011, 12:11 PM
Hello, knowledgeable and experienced people :-)
I have scanned through many of the posts in here and have been unable to really figure out what I want, so I decided to create an account and post myself. I hope that I am posting in the right place :confused: I am also unsure where people are able to find out if hardware is digi approved... I bought a Digirack 003+ about one year ago. I was able to run Pro Tools 8.0 with it on the laptop that I already had, but not really all that well. It recently crashed and it is now time to get a new computer. I decided that I want to build a desktop pc this time around and would like to ask for advice from folks that know more than I do :D I just want to run the latest update of Pro Tools 8.0. It only needs to work for me decently well for the next year and a half to two years, so I would like to keep the price around $600. At that point I am hoping to be going to grad school, so I would like to wait until then to get something really nice. Please provide me with some guidelines and recommendations on building this new pc! :D

lorudess
12-26-2011, 10:34 AM
Nice thread!!!

filosofem
12-27-2011, 01:28 PM
Hello
Well super steve, you leave no room for movement and you have one of two choices. Intel Core i7-2600K with a P67 Chipset or Core i7-9xx with a X58 Chipset. Some people have had success with 2600K, personally I would not recommend 2600K and prefer to go with i7-9xx with X58 Chipset. It's older but it's stable.

cfinch
12-28-2011, 06:19 PM
So I am think about getting my buddy to build me a computer. And this will be the last big purchase I make in a long time, so I want it to be right. If anyone can answer a few question, and take a look at a few of the pieces of harward, etc, for compatability issues etc...

motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128440 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813128440) GIGABYTE GA-880GM-USB3 AM3+ AMD 880G HDMI USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

Quiet running tower: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811163166 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811163166) SILVERSTONE Black Aluminum / 0.8mm SECC Grandia Series GD05B micro-ATX / Mini-DTX / Mini-ITX MB, 1x5.25", 2x3.5"+1x2.5"HDD or 1x3.5"+2x2.5"HDD, 3x120mm golf bladed fan, 11" expansion card capable HTPC Case

Internal drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147134 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147134) SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128D/AM 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Desktop Upgrade Kit

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116986 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16832116986)

Power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139027 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817139027) CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

usb 3.0 External hard drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822149186 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822149186) TOSHIBA Canvio 3.0 750GB USB 3.0 Black/White Portable External Hard Drive E05A075CAU3XW

Cd/DVD drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151236 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16827151236) SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model SH-222AL/RSBS LightScribe Support

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220484 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820220484) Patriot G series ‘Sector 5’ Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PGV38G1600ELK

Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103962 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819103962) AMD FX-6100 Zambezi 3.3GHz Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor FD6100WMGUSBX

It's either this or a very exspensive I-mac... I would rather get a more powerful dependable pc if all possible though...


Thank you for your time... any help would be great.

thanks,
chris

SUPER_STEVE
12-29-2011, 10:35 AM
@ filosofem
Thank you, Aaron. I'm thinking the i7-960 (which is currently out of stock at new egg...) would probably work best for my current price range, which I would be willing to push up a hundred dollars or so if needed. I'm not a really computer savvy guy, so I'd like to ask if this would be a good motherboard. It has the x58 chipset like you said:
GIGABYTE GA-X58-USB3 LGA 1366 Intel X58 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128456

After that, are things like ram, hard drives, etc. more personal preference and will generally work with pro tools? I do have a friend who will be helping me to build the computer, so he can advise me on some of these things.

filosofem
12-29-2011, 01:02 PM
GIGABYTE GA-X58-USB3 LGA 1366 Intel X58 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Gigabyte boards are cheaper but some of us have found them to be a little problematic and I would suggest finding an ASUS P6T6 WS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131358R) motherboard.

RAM needs to be Triple Channel 1333 and Corsair XMS3 12GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145332) 3 x 4GB is bang on the money. You could populate all slots by grabbing another kit of 3 x 4GB Corsair XMS3 12GB.

Hard Drive Western Digital Caviar Black (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136793). I picked 1.5 TB because it supports 64 MB Cache and secondly it's cheap. You would need two maybe three. One for Operating System, one for recording and the other for samples, maybe.

Can I also suggest that you use Casper (http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/) as a backup solution. This cheap as software creates partitions and clones hard drives. With 1.5 TB drives, you can partition the system drive into a size that you need, clone that partition for backup and save it to another created partition on another drive. From here you can have an Internet partition, a Pro Tools only partition, etc., and using EasyBCD (http://%22http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/) to create and edit boot.ini so you can get into those created partitions on the system drive. EasyBCD is free for private/non commercial use.

mano111
12-29-2011, 11:40 PM
So I am think about getting my buddy to build me a computer. And this will be the last big purchase I make in a long time, so I want it to be right. If anyone can answer a few question, and take a look at a few of the pieces of harward, etc, for compatability issues etc...

motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128440 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813128440) GIGABYTE GA-880GM-USB3 AM3+ AMD 880G HDMI USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

Quiet running tower: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811163166 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811163166) SILVERSTONE Black Aluminum / 0.8mm SECC Grandia Series GD05B micro-ATX / Mini-DTX / Mini-ITX MB, 1x5.25", 2x3.5"+1x2.5"HDD or 1x3.5"+2x2.5"HDD, 3x120mm golf bladed fan, 11" expansion card capable HTPC Case

Internal drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147134 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147134) SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128D/AM 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Desktop Upgrade Kit

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116986 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16832116986)

Power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139027 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817139027) CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

usb 3.0 External hard drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822149186 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822149186) TOSHIBA Canvio 3.0 750GB USB 3.0 Black/White Portable External Hard Drive E05A075CAU3XW

Cd/DVD drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151236 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16827151236) SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model SH-222AL/RSBS LightScribe Support

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220484 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820220484) Patriot G series ‘Sector 5’ Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PGV38G1600ELK

Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103962 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819103962) AMD FX-6100 Zambezi 3.3GHz Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor FD6100WMGUSBX

It's either this or a very exspensive I-mac... I would rather get a more powerful dependable pc if all possible though...


Thank you for your time... any help would be great.

thanks,
chris

Hi,

Nice build for an HTPC, But seriously at some point one has to decide what the build is intended for. This build, while it might be able to run PT is far from ideal.

Start with an Intel CPU, go with a well tested motherboard, and a dedicated GPU.

For some examples of working builds that run Protools well check out the first page of this thread.

filosofem
12-30-2011, 05:58 PM
This build, while it might be able to run PT is far from ideal. Start with an Intel CPU, go with a well tested motherboard, and a dedicated GPU.
Second that, unless of course, you are a trailblazer.

SUPER_STEVE
12-31-2011, 09:49 AM
@filosofem

I was able to find the Asus motherboard on amazon for about $340. It seems to me though that to do this right, I'll need to spend at least $1000 dollars... possibly more. I'm just worried that this computer could be obsolete within the next couple of years, before I get done with my undergrad. Do you think this computer could last me at least 3 to 4 years? And at this point, I might as well ask you, do you have any recommendations on cases, cooling units, power supplies, graphics cards, and firewire ports? I think that would cover everything needed. And please remember I am trying to build sort of a budget computer :o
Also, how do you feel about purchasing used parts, say off of ebay?

Thanks again, Aaron. Your help is extremely appreciated.

guitardom
12-31-2011, 12:29 PM
@filosofem

I was able to find the Asus motherboard on amazon for about $340. It seems to me though that to do this right, I'll need to spend at least $1000 dollars... possibly more. I'm just worried that this computer could be obsolete within the next couple of years, before I get done with my undergrad. Do you think this computer could last me at least 3 to 4 years? And at this point, I might as well ask you, do you have any recommendations on cases, cooling units, power supplies, graphics cards, and firewire ports? I think that would cover everything needed. And please remember I am trying to build sort of a budget computer :o
Also, how do you feel about purchasing used parts, say off of ebay?

Thanks again, Aaron. Your help is extremely appreciated.

see you are in portales....poor guy :D i live up in the farmington area, but hanging out in albuq this week..

no matter what you do the machine will be outdated in a year or 2 anyway you look at it. the deal is though, it should still be working and capable of everything that it is capable of today.

i personally would not buy parts of ebay. maybe craigslist as you can actually go see it and check it out before you buy, but i would do nothing but maybe vid card and case. everything else i would want new for the most part.

i personally have no issue with gigabyte and have used them for years and personally prefer them. i have had one issue out of about 4 boards and the board was over 2 years old and not sure if it was my fault when swapping vid cards or not. the 1366 socket has proven to work very well and i actually dont know of any boards that are not working, but we have many that are proven. i would not hesitate if money was a serious issue to get a cheaper asus or gigabyte 1366 board.

ram is cheap!! i would not get less than 3-4gb sticks. the faster you can afford the better. i am using this combo now ram (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127) board (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423) and is flawless. a comparable asus board would be asus (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131755). but the board manufacturer should have a list of approved ram and i would ONLY buy what is on that list.

cooler (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057)

do not skimp on psu. i personally use corsair (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012) or ocz (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341051).

skimp on the vid card. also prefer fanless myself for less noise. asus, gigabyte, evga, have all been good cards. but simpler the better and avid is saying to use nvidia based cards now as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121473
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130606

for a couple.

cases is total preference. i use rackmount. others prefer standard case. look for one that will have multiple fan spots including in the door, couple on back, possibly one on the top. need cooling!!! and prepare to buy fans to install in these spots if the case does not include them. few i found real quick on cheap.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156226
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156237
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811103035

would go w 2 of these for hard drives (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136922). one for audio, one for os.

cfinch
12-31-2011, 03:47 PM
Mano, what do u mean by HTPC? And also I will tell my biilder to check out that page. Thanks for the reply bro..

mano111
01-01-2012, 04:32 AM
Mano, what do u mean by HTPC? ..

Home Theater PC.

And also I will tell my biilder to check out that page. Thanks for the reply bro

Thats a good idea. Tell to copy one of those builds to the letter and you'll be good to go.

SUPER_STEVE
01-01-2012, 06:19 PM
see you are in portales....poor guy :D i live up in the farmington area, but hanging out in albuq this week..

no matter what you do the machine will be outdated in a year or 2 anyway you look at it. the deal is though, it should still be working and capable of everything that it is capable of today.

i personally would not buy parts of ebay. maybe craigslist as you can actually go see it and check it out before you buy, but i would do nothing but maybe vid card and case. everything else i would want new for the most part.

i personally have no issue with gigabyte and have used them for years and personally prefer them. i have had one issue out of about 4 boards and the board was over 2 years old and not sure if it was my fault when swapping vid cards or not. the 1366 socket has proven to work very well and i actually dont know of any boards that are not working, but we have many that are proven. i would not hesitate if money was a serious issue to get a cheaper asus or gigabyte 1366 board.

ram is cheap!! i would not get less than 3-4gb sticks. the faster you can afford the better. i am using this combo now ram (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127) board (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423) and is flawless. a comparable asus board would be asus (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131755). but the board manufacturer should have a list of approved ram and i would ONLY buy what is on that list.

cooler (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057)

do not skimp on psu. i personally use corsair (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012) or ocz (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341051).

skimp on the vid card. also prefer fanless myself for less noise. asus, gigabyte, evga, have all been good cards. but simpler the better and avid is saying to use nvidia based cards now as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121473
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130606

for a couple.

cases is total preference. i use rackmount. others prefer standard case. look for one that will have multiple fan spots including in the door, couple on back, possibly one on the top. need cooling!!! and prepare to buy fans to install in these spots if the case does not include them. few i found real quick on cheap.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156226
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156237
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811103035

would go w 2 of these for hard drives (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136922). one for audio, one for os.

That's funny guitardom because I just left Albuquerque today! I was visiting my girlfriend there since Wednesday...
Though I'm sure yours and filosofem's advice are equally good, I think I probably will have to go with some of your suggestions to help bring price down. I think at this point I'll start putting together a list. I'll want to run it by you guys, and I'm sure I'll have more questions!
Thanks a bunch :D

Questions already! What processor do you have guitardom? I also found the 750 gb hard drive new on amazon for $130. Would that be better than recertified? And any recommendations on a firewire card and DVD drive?

guitardom
01-02-2012, 08:43 AM
That's funny guitardom because I just left Albuquerque today! I was visiting my girlfriend there since Wednesday...
Though I'm sure yours and filosofem's advice are equally good, I think I probably will have to go with some of your suggestions to help bring price down. I think at this point I'll start putting together a list. I'll want to run it by you guys, and I'm sure I'll have more questions!
Thanks a bunch :D

Questions already! What processor do you have guitardom? I also found the 750 gb hard drive new on amazon for $130. Would that be better than recertified? And any recommendations on a firewire card and DVD drive?

i hate that drive! i worked down in clovis off and on for about a year and from 40 south was terrible!! my wife works at a hopital in albuq so she is down there a lot and i am back and forth depending on my work schedule.

i use an i7 920. i did not realize the drive i linked were recertified. i would go new. they have shot up massively in price!! i would get a 750 for audio and partition it, but can get a smaller 500 or something for the os drive. my i7 computer will be 3 years old this feb!!! i did have to replace the motherboard a few months back and upgraded the ram. but has been great. never kept a daw machine this long before! typically 2 years max.

firewire card will be dependent on the board. the gigabyte board i use, the onboard firewire works fine. i still have some old dynex i got from best buy years ago that works as well. dvd burner, dont matter much. just get one that is sata and NOT ide. no need to spend over 50$, heck i would be trying to spend 35-40$ on it.

mykhal c
01-02-2012, 09:51 AM
Happy new year guys!!! Continued success in 2012!!!:-)

filosofem
01-02-2012, 11:49 AM
Happy new year guys!!! Continued success in 2012!!!:-)
...and to you, MC. Wonder what fun and games the year a waits a head. Bring it on! :cool:

SUPER_STEVE
01-02-2012, 10:48 PM
Alright guys... this is what I'm currently thinking of ordering. If there aren't any objections I'll probably go for it.

PC Build Parts List- Prototype:

Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115224
Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423 or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131755
Ram (possibly x2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127
Hard drive x2 http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-Desktop/dp/B0036Q7MV0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325572493&sr=8-1
Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057
Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341051
Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121473
Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156237
DVD drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

mano111
01-03-2012, 10:28 AM
Alright guys... this is what I'm currently thinking of ordering. If there aren't any objections I'll probably go for it.

PC Build Parts List- Prototype:

Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115224
Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423 or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131755
Ram (possibly x2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127
Hard drive x2 http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-Desktop/dp/B0036Q7MV0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325572493&sr=8-1
Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057
Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341051
Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121473
Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156237
DVD drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204


Good choices for the most part and good advice from filosofem and guitardom. I've used the Giga X58A motherboard on many builds, one just last week.

I do have some of my own $0.02 for ya

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096
IMO better and slightly cheaper

CPU cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
for about the same price its a better performer and quieter option
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608014
if you want to spend a few $ more. This is a top cooler.


For a case there are tons of valid options. Antec still my favorite mostly for their build quality and silent operation.

Solo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129018
or
P280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129179

Lian lee or Fractal Design are also valid choices
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112351

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352015


I will will never go near a Raidmax or Termaltake and the likes (recently got rid of a Coolermaster 690 that was about 2 years old and looked like its was 10) that thin metal, poor construction quality, bright colors and flimsy plastic parts are just not up to par. A better case will not only last longer and look better but also run quieter, cooler and cleaner (with decent removable filters rubber mounts etc.)


Happy building

and a Happy new year

albee1952
01-03-2012, 05:52 PM
Whatever power supply you go with, make sure that the 12V rail is at least 20 amps(split) or over 50 amps(single). My i7 950 can pull 18 amps at full tilt, so you don't want to starve it, which may have been an issue on my 950 system on the Gigabyte mobo as the old PSU was split rails at 16 amps(expect the 960 to pull a tad more). Now running a Corsair 700 watt(54 amp 12V single rail) and its working pretty damn nice(Dverb2 count went over 500:D). Able to pull almost 300 Dverbs at the 64 buffer:p

SUPER_STEVE
01-03-2012, 07:25 PM
Thanks, mano111 and albee1952. I think I will definitely upgrade the case to the Antec Solo and probably go with the newer heat sink and different power supply. Does the Sea Sonic meet up with what you were saying, albee1952? I'm not too knowledgeable on the subject...

albee1952
01-05-2012, 07:29 AM
Thanks, mano111 and albee1952. I think I will definitely upgrade the case to the Antec Solo and probably go with the newer heat sink and different power supply. Does the Sea Sonic meet up with what you were saying, albee1952? I'm not too knowledgeable on the subject...
I could not find that info thru the link, which is why I laid out a general advice recommendation. Maybe poke around newegg as some items show more details than others:rolleyes:

mano111
01-05-2012, 09:21 AM
I could not find that info thru the link, which is why I laid out a general advice recommendation. Maybe poke around newegg as some items show more details than others:rolleyes:


http://www.seasonicusa.com/S12II-Bronze.htm

The S12 II 620 delivers 48 Amps on the 12V rail (576W). This should be more than enough to power the proposed system.

I estimate up to ~250W at full synthetic load and a typical mix session should draw no more than 150-200W. Still plenty of headroom for OC and what not...

SUPER_STEVE
01-06-2012, 07:47 AM
Cool, man. Thanks for finding that out for me. I feel pretty good about all of my current part selections, so I think I'll probably order tonight. I'm going to switch to the Antec P280. The solo just was not very attractive in my opinion, though it was cheaper...
I'm kind of a sucker for pretty lights and windows, so I kinda dig these cases too:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066
I imagine they wouldn't run as quietly as the P280 though, so I guess I'll probably still go with it.

filosofem
01-06-2012, 01:20 PM
Give us an update when you have her all running. Super Steve.

SUPER_STEVE
01-09-2012, 07:29 AM
Will do! Parts are ordered and should ship soon! :D What version of Windows 7 is preferrable? I think I read home premium somewhere... Also, do you guys recommend doing all of the Pro Tools optimizations that the Avid website recommends? I think one of them might be part of the reason why my laptop is fried now, so I was wondering...

EGS
01-09-2012, 09:18 AM
...do you guys recommend doing all of the Pro Tools optimizations that the Avid website recommends? ...yes

Dantesjuice
01-09-2012, 06:23 PM
Im looking to do a new build very soon but my dilemma is between AMD or Intel...960, 2600k quad cores, or the 8150 fx eight core. Iv been a big supporter of both chips and was going to go intel but i can get twice the processing and more ram for cheaper if i go AMD. (not to mention the AMD chip comes unlocked for overclocking) My biggest concern is compatibility with pro tools 8LE though with the AMD or the Sandy Bridge.

Intel Build No.1

Intel 960 3.2 quad core
Asus Rampage III Formula or Gigabyte UD3R
Corsair Vengance 12gb DDR3 2000 triple channel
~$1700

Intel Build No.2

Intel 2600k quad core (Turbo Boost)
Asus P8P67 Delux
G.Skill Sniper 16gb DDR3 2133 quad channel
~$1650

AMD Build

AMD 8150 FX 3.6 eight core
Asus Crosshair V Formula
G.Skill Sniper 16gb DDR3 2133 quad channel
~$1600

All the other parts are identical, drives, video card etc...

Anyone have any advise... or more helpful would be if anyone is currently running protools on an AMD or Sandy Bridge system?

Thanks =)

guitardom
01-09-2012, 06:46 PM
Will do! Parts are ordered and should ship soon! :D What version of Windows 7 is preferrable? I think I read home premium somewhere... Also, do you guys recommend doing all of the Pro Tools optimizations that the Avid website recommends? I think one of them might be part of the reason why my laptop is fried now, so I was wondering...

what optimization do you think could have caused that??
home premium is fine. all flavors of it are used with success. i use ultimate.

Sawllkwa
01-11-2012, 05:01 AM
Hi Guys,

I’m upgrading to ‘PT9+’ and I’m at a stage where have to build a new computer. Over the past years I’ve ran PTLE on ‘off the shelf’ machines that I’ve bought, and spent hours/days making them work. My pockets have bottoms so I kinda have to get it right the first time with this build.

I’m at the stage were I’m reading and researching this forum and other builder websites. I’ve read a few posts warning to (if possible) stay away from the P67: Intel Core i7-2600 builds, and lean towards the X58 and possibly next gen X79. I’m now considering one of two options:

Option 1 – old and safe

ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution, Socket-1366;
Intel Core i7-970 Processor; and
Corsair Dominator DHX DDR3 1600MHz, 2 x (12GB)

Option 2 – possible trail blazer

ASUS P9X79 WS, Socket-2011;
Intel Core i7-3930K Processor;
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz, 2 x (16GB) CL8

Option 1 is cheaper than 2, and from what I understand more proven. I haven’t seen too many builds on the newer X79 - i7 3xxx generation. I’d love to be a ‘trail blazer’ but like I said ‘my pockets have bottoms’ :P Does anyone have any new insight on the X79, or should a lean towards the safer X58 generation?

I started by looking at the MB and CPU first, still undecided with the RAM. The rest will follow (HDs, Graphics, Case, etc.).

Thanks for your time,

Roger

filosofem
01-11-2012, 05:58 PM
Hey Roger, what's apparent reading through your post is that you have your sh*t together and there is not a lot any one can add to what you have said as the choice is solely yours to make. Personally, since you are really looking for opinion, if you can afford Core i7-3930K then Core i7 3930K is the smart money. Core i7-39xx is newer and offers more punch for your buck given that it blends the best of Core i7-9xx and Core i7-2600. The Core i7-39xx architecture is more suited for Digital Audio Workstations and Non-Linear Editors. Plus the added bonus too is that LGA 2011 Socket is going to be compatible with Ivy Bridge Extreme processes in the future.

TOM@METRO
01-13-2012, 10:49 AM
if you can afford Core i7-3930K then Core i7 3930K is the smart money. I fully agree.

bigfryman
01-19-2012, 11:51 PM
Hey guys,

Has anybody been successful with Z68 chipsets and Pro Tools 9??
I have googled the duc a bit, but haven't found much information.

I am in Australia and usually buy my computer parts through Mwave and they don't keep so many of the older motherboards any more, hence z68.
I need a motherboard, ram, CPU and a couple of hard drives for $1k or less.

This is my current purchasing plan:

Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 2600K
G.Skill Ripjaws-X 16GB(4x 4GB) Memory Kit - 240pin DIMM - PC3-12800 / DDR3-1600 - CL9 - 1.5v - Unbuffered - Non-Ecc
2x Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB as a RAID pair for audio

I also have already bought a 120GB OCZ SSD drive for the system drive and own a decent antec case, power supply and decent fans. I have a NVIDIA GeForce 7100 GS for a video card.

I have built a few pro tools machine and been quite successful with stable builds. About to retire my quad pentium 4, it's getting tired.

Can anybody spot any issues there?? The motherboard doesn't have onboard video support, so i'm assuming all should be well.

Appreciate all your expertise!

Thanks

filosofem
01-20-2012, 12:46 AM
Hey bigfryman, any reason why Core i7-2600K and Z68 Chipset? There has been a few and only a few success stories on the DUC. The problem is that 2600K supports on-die graphic processing and little is known about the Z68 chipset. Users that have opted for 2600K have done so with P67 chipset. Have you considered Core i7-3930K and X79 chipset?

Also Pro Tools 9 does not support RAID. And Avid do not recommend SSD for system nor audio drives.

bigfryman
01-20-2012, 12:57 AM
Thanks for the reply filosfem,

The reason I didn't go for P67 chipset was that they seem a little harder to get, mwave don't stock any. I haven't considered the 3930K and X79 as it's outside my price range unfortunately and also don't know how much success people have had.

I had heard Pro Tools doesn't 'support' RAID, but I haven't heard any of the issues people have had. Do you know what they are?? I was going to set up RAID 1, as I am only interested in RAID for data redundancy, not performance. I would have thought that pro tools would not even see it as a RAID drive, but just a drive.

Also, are people having issues with SSD's?? I had heard that pro tools don't recommend them, but haven't seen any of the issues. Have read a few success stories with them though.

Thanks for you expertise!

filosofem
01-20-2012, 01:04 PM
RAID, SSD, Z68 and 2600K I'll tell you what, you're a gambling man. None of this is recommended nor qualified with Pro Tools 9. Pro Tools 10 supports RAID. You are going to do what you want to do. Yes, some users have had success, there are also those that have not. I guess you will be flipping a coin. Your build from the outset looks okay, just make sure that that RAM is listed on the motherboards qualified vendor list. And good luck.

knandermueller
01-22-2012, 09:59 AM
Hey Guys,

I originally posted on here when everyone was just started building their i7 boxes. Based on everyone's help and advice I got a sweet i7 build up and running without too much issue, and it has served me well for over two years. That build was XP based with PTLE 7.3

I finally decided to upgrade so I could take full advantage of all my RAM (and upgrade to 16GB), a 64bit OS, and newer software, so I installed Win7 and PTLE8 ( I know 9 is better, but I gotz no cheddar)

My system that was running pretty flawlessly on XP after the initial debugging, but now when I try to run PTLE8, I bluescreen (errors vary each time) and the whole system crashes. When I reboot I have a dialogue that states DAE error 1115.

I researched the 1115 error here and on the net and saw that it can be due to USB controllers (not likely as I am using FW) or FW issues. I have done some debugging on my end (BIOS tweaks, checked both firewire ports, and firewire cord, etc) but still getting the same results. Most people that I read had DAE 1115 errors did not also have bsod issues. I suspect the mobo, but before I start ripping my system down or revert back to the old install, I thought I would check here.

Since I figure many of you on here have the same hardware as I do (since I picked my specs based on advice on this forum) I was hoping that some of you have had the same issue and were able to resolve it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I left my XP install standing on a different partition, but I'd really like to upgrade if possible.

My specs:

DIGI002
PTLE 8.0
Mobo: GIGABYTE EX58-UD3R
CPU: i7 920 DO Stepping (Batch B)
6GB OCZ Gold DDR3 1600 GIGABYTE EX58-UD3R mobo
i7 920 DO Stepping (Batch B)
RAM: 6GB OCZ Gold DDR3 1600
Storage: System HDD, WD Velociraptor 300GB partitioned into 2 drives, one 60GB for OS and Protools app, remainder for data.
2nd HDD WD Caviar Black 1TB partitioned into 4 +/-250GB drives
CDROM: 2 Samsung DVD-RW's
VIDEO: Sparkle GeForce 9500GT
CASE: Antec 900
PSU: Corsair HX620 620W PSU

bigfryman
01-22-2012, 05:13 PM
RAID, SSD, Z68 and 2600K I'll tell you what, you're a gambling man. None of this is recommended nor qualified with Pro Tools 9. Pro Tools 10 supports RAID. You are going to do what you want to do. Yes, some users have had success, there are also those that have not. I guess you will be flipping a coin. Your build from the outset looks okay, just make sure that that RAM is listed on the motherboards qualified vendor list. And good luck.


I have managed to find myself a DP67BG so I would think this would be a safer option than a Z68 chipset. As for the RAID, I have done a little bit more research and found that most users that are having issues are using software RAID rather than hardware. I will be using hardware RAID 1, just for data redundancy sake on my audio drives. If I have issues with RAID, I'll just use the second hard disk as a plain old back up drive. I'll take my chances with SSD boot up drive, but from reading through the forums a little more, there are plenty of success stories.

Anybody have good/bad experiences with a DP67BG?? I see there is one in the header at the start of this sticky.

Cheers!

mano111
01-24-2012, 03:59 AM
I have managed to find myself a DP67BG so I would think this would be a safer option than a Z68 chipset. As for the RAID, I have done a little bit more research and found that most users that are having issues are using software RAID rather than hardware. I will be using hardware RAID 1, just for data redundancy sake on my audio drives. If I have issues with RAID, I'll just use the second hard disk as a plain old back up drive. I'll take my chances with SSD boot up drive, but from reading through the forums a little more, there are plenty of success stories.

Anybody have good/bad experiences with a DP67BG?? I see there is one in the header at the start of this sticky.

Cheers!

Motherboard is a good choice. Nothing wrong with an SSD for a system disk, regardless always keep a system image to be safe.
RAID? Even though Hardware RAID1 might work I haven't tested it for audio recording. Just so you know, the rule is no RAID.

filosofem
01-24-2012, 05:02 PM
RAID? Even though Hardware RAID1 might work I haven't tested it for audio recording. Just so you know, the rule is no RAID.
Unless you're running Pro Tools 10 that supports RAID but does not guarantee performance.

Sawllkwa
01-29-2012, 09:42 PM
Hey Roger, what's apparent reading through your post is that you have your sh*t together and there is not a lot any one can add to what you have said as the choice is solely yours to make. Personally, since you are really looking for opinion, if you can afford Core i7-3930K then Core i7 3930K is the smart money. Core i7-39xx is newer and offers more punch for your buck given that it blends the best of Core i7-9xx and Core i7-2600. The Core i7-39xx architecture is more suited for Digital Audio Workstations and Non-Linear Editors. Plus the added bonus too is that LGA 2011 Socket is going to be compatible with Ivy Bridge Extreme processes in the future.


Thanks guys!! :D

These are the components I went with:


Intel Core i7-3930K 3,2GHz / 12MB / Socket 2011
ASUS P9X79 WS
Corsair Hydro H80
2 - Corsair XMS3 Vengeance 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (4x4GB), 32 GB total
Intel Intern SSD 120GB 320 Series Intern SATA 2.5" (for OS)
Cooler Master HAF tower (the MB is big..)
I reused my SATA HD's (500 GB for programs, and 2 - 200 GBs for PT files), installed WIN7 64 corporate, nVidia GPU, etc.
I installed PT8 last night to test, and it ran like a wet dream. There was a little issue when I got the 'Audio Record Volume' error, but that was a quick fix by changing the drives to 'R' from 'T'.
I was running Melodyne and strike and she purr'ed along.
I'll install PT9 as soon as it's delivered.
Just so I got it right, I had my buddy that works at a nuclear plant as a system engineer help me. He's also a tube amp wizard. I think he had multiple geek orgasms the whole time we assembled it. :eek:

filosofem
01-30-2012, 05:51 PM
These are the components I went with:


Intel Core i7-3930K 3,2GHz / 12MB / Socket 2011
ASUS P9X79 WS
Corsair Hydro H80
2 - Corsair XMS3 Vengeance 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (4x4GB), 32 GB total
Intel Intern SSD 120GB 320 Series Intern SATA 2.5" (for OS)
Cooler Master HAF tower (the MB is big..)

I reused my SATA HD's (500 GB for programs, and 2 - 200 GBs for PT files), installed WIN7 64 corporate, nVidia GPU, etc.
I installed PT8 last night to test, and it ran like a wet dream. There was a little issue when I got the 'Audio Record Volume' error, but that was a quick fix by changing the drives to 'R' from 'T'.
I was running Melodyne and strike and she purr'ed along.
I'll install PT9 as soon as it's delivered.
Our first confirmed Intel Core i7-39xx X79 build! Excellent! If you have time can you post a Dverb test results, please?

mano111
02-01-2012, 06:20 AM
Thanks guys!! :D

These are the components I went with:


Intel Core i7-3930K 3,2GHz / 12MB / Socket 2011
ASUS P9X79 WS
Corsair Hydro H80
2 - Corsair XMS3 Vengeance 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (4x4GB), 32 GB total
Intel Intern SSD 120GB 320 Series Intern SATA 2.5" (for OS)
Cooler Master HAF tower (the MB is big..)
I reused my SATA HD's (500 GB for programs, and 2 - 200 GBs for PT files), installed WIN7 64 corporate, nVidia GPU, etc.
I installed PT8 last night to test, and it ran like a wet dream. There was a little issue when I got the 'Audio Record Volume' error, but that was a quick fix by changing the drives to 'R' from 'T'.
I was running Melodyne and strike and she purr'ed along.
I'll install PT9 as soon as it's delivered.
Just so I got it right, I had my buddy that works at a nuclear plant as a system engineer help me. He's also a tube amp wizard. I think he had multiple geek orgasms the whole time we assembled it. :eek:


+1 Congrads on first known working PTLE 8+ X79 build :-). Please keep us posted on performance and issues (if you ever have any...). Proper D-verb test is detailed on the first page of this thread. Please test 64 and 1024 sample playback buffers.

Sawllkwa
02-01-2012, 08:14 AM
Thanks, I actually didn't want to be the trailblazer (guinea pig), but oh well, hehe.
The system is stock and I'll try and do a dverb tonight.

mykhal c
02-03-2012, 11:38 AM
Thanks, I actually didn't want to be the trailblazer (guinea pig), but oh well, hehe.
The system is stock and I'll try and do a dverb tonight.

congrats!!! post back with your dverb results and i'll post build and results on page 1;)

Sawllkwa
02-04-2012, 03:33 AM
Ok Tests Completed.

Just a background. To save money on the build I used a combo of new and old. Not the best, but will replace when the wife's shock is abated.

Operating system - Win7 64-bit, corporate version
Protools - PT8.0.5 on a 002R. Probably move to PT10 in a week or so.

The new componenets:


Intel Core i7-3930K 3,2GHz / 12MB / Socket 2011
ASUS P9X79 WS
Corsair Hydro H80
2 - Corsair XMS3 Vengeance 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (4x4GB), 32 GB total
Intel Intern SSD 120GB 320 Series Intern SATA 2.5" (for OS)
Cooler Master HAF tower (the MB is big..)
Here are the reused components:


2 - 200 GB SATA drives: WDC WD 2000JD-22HBB0 (for PT files);
500 GD SATA drive: WDC WD 5000AAKS-65YGA0 (for programs);
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS;
DVD w/lightscribe; and
700W Rocketfish PSU
I haven't over-clocked yet. Don't really know enough to do myself.

I did two set of test. The first is without any of the Win7 optimization (listed one first page), and the next was with the optimization except: 'disable system start-up items', 'HD optimization' (newly formatted drives), 'Install latest device drivers (PT9 only)', 'disable USB power mgnt', 'not hearing input/output' (not an issue), 'disable network adapters', or any of the others listed after.

Dverb 1024 (without optimizations) = 484 with CPU(RTAS) at 89%

Dverb 1024 (with selected optimizations) = 621 with CPU(RTAS) at 89%
Dverb 64 (with selected optimizations) = 473 with CPU(RTAS) at 86%

I was floored how much the dverb jumped after the optimizations :P
I guess putting the PT files on my 'oldest' HDs isn't the best. That'll be one the first changes. I used to have to run my old system in 'disable system start-up items' all the time, so I'll use that for big mixes.

I'm still open to impoving now that the MB and cpu are ok.

Cheers :-)

albee1952
02-04-2012, 09:04 AM
:eek::eek::eek:nice numbers!!! I would skip the overclocking. You don't need it:D. Double-check the BIOS settings for your RAM to make sure all numbers are correct for the RAM you have(timing AND voltage). Take notes on anything that you change(so you can restore if it makes things worse). I bet you just made a bunch of DUC users jump to the newegg site:p

filosofem
02-04-2012, 12:45 PM
I bet you just made a bunch of DUC users jump to the newegg site:p
Indeed Dave. With a Dverb count of 621 at 1024 I think it's safe to say we have a new monster on the block. :cool:

mykhal c
02-04-2012, 01:49 PM
yep...now that the quad channel memory is here along with the PCIe (version 3.0), native SATA3, and USB3...i think it's time for the lil ole oc'd Q6600 to become the VEPro server!!!:eek::D

filosofem
02-04-2012, 06:21 PM
yep...now that the quad channel memory is here along with the PCIe (version 3.0), native SATA3, and USB3...i think it's time for the lil ole oc'd Q6600 to become the VEPro server!!!:eek::D
:eek: No! Get out of town! Ohhh... no you don't, go buying yourself a Core i7-39xx monster! :cool:

mykhal c
02-04-2012, 07:27 PM
:eek: No! Get out of town! Ohhh... no you don't, go buying yourself a Core i7-39xx monster! :cool:

i'll have to go with the mini-monster...i7 3820!!!:(:D

filosofem
02-04-2012, 08:44 PM
mini-monster...i7 3820
Mini-monster. :D

guitardom
02-04-2012, 08:48 PM
yep...now that the quad channel memory is here along with the PCIe (version 3.0), native SATA3, and USB3...i think it's time for the lil ole oc'd Q6600 to become the VEPro server!!!:eek::D

dont go blowing the converter savings!!!! :D

mykhal c
02-04-2012, 10:32 PM
dont go blowing the converter savings!!!! :D

daaammmnnnn...you're right bro!!!:eek::D you need to talk to Key about those cables i was tellin' you about;)

graveleye
02-05-2012, 12:34 PM
OK folks, I am ready. Here is what I'm looking at for my new build. Much of this was taken from several pages back, but I am looking for further reassurance that I'm doing the right thing.

mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423&Tpk=GA-X58A-UD3R

processor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115224

cooler - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608014

video card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102934

memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127

power supply - ________???________
(looking for something quiet of course. Ideas?)

Weendurs - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006816&IsNodeId=1&Description=windows%207&name=Operating%20Systems&Order=BESTMATCH

Hopefully, this is to be my interface - http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SaffirePro40/

lastly el Pro Tools - http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PT10LEup/


How's that look? Do you think it will work? Or better yet, do you know it will work?? Throwing a bunch of money down on something that won't work....sucks.

Let me know what you think!

williamcross
02-07-2012, 06:42 AM
Here is my proposed build. Please let me know what you think. Pro Tools 9 w/002r here.

GIGABYTE GV-R687OC-1GD Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 6870 GV-R687OC-1GD Video Card with Eyefinity (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814125357)




Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822136769)


CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ32GX3M4X1600C10
CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820233232)


GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813128512)


Intel Core i7-2700K Sandy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623i72700K
Intel Core i7-2700K 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 Quad-Core Desktop Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819115095)


Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835608018)


COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Hybrid RS-850-SPHA-D3 850W Intel ATX 12V V2.3 & SSI EPS 12V V2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Hybrid RS-850-SPHA-D3 850W Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817171061)



COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper SGC-6000-KXN1-GP Black Steel, ABS Plastic, Mesh bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper SGC-6000-KXN1-GP Black Computer Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811119194)

albee1952
02-07-2012, 06:45 PM
Z68 motherboards have onboard graphics. They are totally a crap shoot for Pro Tools:rolleyes:

guitardom
02-07-2012, 10:40 PM
OK folks, I am ready. Here is what I'm looking at for my new build. Much of this was taken from several pages back, but I am looking for further reassurance that I'm doing the right thing.

mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423&Tpk=GA-X58A-UD3R

processor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115224

cooler - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608014

video card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102934

memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127

power supply - ________???________
(looking for something quiet of course. Ideas?)

Weendurs - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006816&IsNodeId=1&Description=windows%207&name=Operating%20Systems&Order=BESTMATCH

Hopefully, this is to be my interface - http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SaffirePro40/

lastly el Pro Tools - http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PT10LEup/


How's that look? Do you think it will work? Or better yet, do you know it will work?? Throwing a bunch of money down on something that won't work....sucks.

Let me know what you think!

i would be looking for a vid card with less overhead. instead of a 1gb ram card, i would be looking for about 1/2 that.

psu's i like corsair or ocz. about 750w is overly safe for most of us.

williamcross
02-08-2012, 08:47 AM
Z68 motherboards have onboard graphics. They are totally a crap shoot for Pro Tools:rolleyes:

Do you have any suggestions on a mobo for LGA1155?

jello
02-08-2012, 03:00 PM
I am moving my I7 970/gigabyte build to the the studio I am working at, and are building another Pc for my homestudio. I am really looking forward to this build.

swallkwa did an interesting build that I will try out.

Here are the parts:

Intel® Core i7-3930K Processor (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=648701)

ASUS P9X79 WS, Socket-2011 (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=656337)

Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 16GB CL9 (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=618011) (2x 32gig total)

Corsair H80 Hydro Series

ASUS Radeon HD 6450 512MB DDR3 Silent (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=632747)

Corsair AX 850W PSU (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=600426)

Corsair Obsidian 800D Big Tower


Its alot of ram, it will be used with VEPro5 that I will use one the same machine as PT10

Does this look like something that will work?

Do I need the sata upgrade kit from corsair? http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/corsair-computer-case-accessories/obsidian-series-800d-sata-6gbps-upgrade-kit.html

And maybe this qualifed graphic card: Quadro FX 580 512MB http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=448603

Cheers from Norway:-)

graveleye
02-08-2012, 03:13 PM
i would be looking for a vid card with less overhead. instead of a 1gb ram card, i would be looking for about 1/2 that.

psu's i like corsair or ocz. about 750w is overly safe for most of us.

when you say less overhead, what do you mean? Is the one I have too much power? Too much money?

filosofem
02-08-2012, 05:09 PM
Z68 motherboards have onboard graphics. They are totally a crap shoot for Pro Tools:rolleyes:
That is not true Z68 supports LGA 1155 Socket for Intel Core i7-26xx series processors and it's these processors that support on-die graphic processing.

filosofem
02-08-2012, 05:09 PM
Do you have any suggestions on a mobo for LGA1155?
No. You would be better moving to LGA 1366 or LGA 2011.

filosofem
02-08-2012, 05:14 PM
Here are the parts:

Intel® Core i7-3930K Processor (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=648701)

ASUS P9X79 WS, Socket-2011 (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=656337)

Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 16GB CL9 (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=618011) (2x 32gig total)

Corsair H80 Hydro Series

ASUS Radeon HD 6450 512MB DDR3 Silent (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=632747)

Corsair AX 850W PSU (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=600426)

Corsair Obsidian 800D Big Tower

These components look right. Make sure that that RAM is Quad Channel. If you can afford a Qualified Graphic card buy it but if you cannot Radeon should be fine.

guitardom
02-08-2012, 06:24 PM
when you say less overhead, what do you mean? Is the one I have too much power? Too much money?

the amount of ram it will take from your system to use this card. getting a card that requires less ram will take less ram away from your system overall. a 512mb card is plenty for pt.

filosofem
02-08-2012, 06:46 PM
the amount of ram it will take from your system to use this card.
That isn't wholly true Steve, on-die or on-board graphic processing taxes the system memory however dedicated graphic processing units host it's own processing and memory on the card.

mykhal c
02-08-2012, 08:08 PM
That isn't wholly true Steve, on-die or on-board graphic processing taxes the system memory however dedicated graphic processing units host it's own processing and memory on the card.

yo Aa...actually Steve is on-point. the larger the video card ram foot print (dedicated ram too) the more of a foot print it creates in HAL (hardware abstraction layer). so while this might not be a biggie on systems with huge amounts of ram, it still requires that the hardware makeup on each system be accurately reflected in the HAL.;)

Vegadark
02-08-2012, 09:06 PM
Hey all,

It's time for me to build a new PC for PTLE 8. My current PC has become unusable, constant freezes, even with a fresh install of win XP and nothing else connected. I believe the motherboard has seen it's better days.You can see in my sig what I have been using. So as you can see, a new build means I wont really be able to use a single thing from the current PC in a new one, except for maybe the case. So lots of research to be done.

Anyway, I will be going with an Intel system, as has been pretty popular for a while now. Problem is, it seems like there are a hundred chipsets, followed by a hundred socket types, followed by...

So here are my questions:

What currently available / modern CPU socket types are ideal and WHY? 2011, 1155, 1156, :confused:

What CPU socket types should be avoided, and WHY?

Ideal chipsets, and WHY?

Avoidable chipsets, and WHY?

CPU: Sandybridge, Ivybridge, whateverbridge? Why?

Are i3 usable? I know they are not going to be the fastest, or run the most plugins, but will they be just stable as the i5 or i7? I can always change out the CPU later on if I need more horsepower...

Obviously I want to understand why things are recommended or not for this application, not just that they are or are not.

I really dont want to spend alot of money on this (who does, lol) and in fact, was up until 3 days ago, considering a Mac Mini. Unfortunately, I discovered that would require me to upgrade to PT10 at $500 because of the Lion OS not being compatible with 8.

I also don't want to go with older technology, even though it's proven, as it will undoubtedly become unavailable sooner, should a part need replacement.

Thanks for your insights!

filosofem
02-08-2012, 09:12 PM
The larger the video card ram foot print (dedicated ram too) the more of a foot print it creates in HAL (hardware abstraction layer).
Hey MC, okay, explain to me how that works cause I hit Wikipedia up on HAL. This is what Wiki said: A hardware abstraction layer (HAL) is an abstraction layer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction_layer), implemented in software, between the physical hardware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_hardware) of a computer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer) and the software (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_software) that runs on that computer. Its function is to hide differences in hardware from most of the operating system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system) kernel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computer_science%29), so that most of the kernel-mode code does not need to be changed to run on systems with different hardware. On a PC, HAL can basically be considered to be the driver for the motherboard and allows instructions from higher level computer languages to communicate with lower level components, such as directly with hardware.

guitardom
02-08-2012, 09:25 PM
Hey MC, okay, explain to me how that works cause I hit Wikipedia up on HAL. This is what Wiki said: A hardware abstraction layer (HAL) is an abstraction layer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction_layer), implemented in software, between the physical hardware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_hardware) of a computer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer) and the software (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_software) that runs on that computer. Its function is to hide differences in hardware from most of the operating system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system) kernel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computer_science%29), so that most of the kernel-mode code does not need to be changed to run on systems with different hardware. On a PC, HAL can basically be considered to be the driver for the motherboard and allows instructions from higher level computer languages to communicate with lower level components, such as directly with hardware.

Ok.....again in English!!!! ;)

guitardom
02-08-2012, 09:30 PM
That isn't wholly true Steve, on-die or on-board graphic processing taxes the system memory however dedicated graphic processing units host it's own processing and memory on the card.
I have also always known the system to set aside half the amount of the vid card
Onboard memory. Sorry answers have been short. No time today!!!!

filosofem
02-08-2012, 09:44 PM
Sorry answers have been short. No time today!!!!
Yeah you're right, you even snubbed me on Skype today. :D

mykhal c
02-08-2012, 10:10 PM
Hey MC, okay, explain to me how that works cause I hit Wikipedia up on HAL. This is what Wiki said: A hardware abstraction layer (HAL) is an abstraction layer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction_layer), implemented in software, between the physical hardware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_hardware) of a computer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer) and the software (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_software) that runs on that computer. Its function is to hide differences in hardware from most of the operating system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system) kernel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computer_science%29), so that most of the kernel-mode code does not need to be changed to run on systems with different hardware. On a PC, HAL can basically be considered to be the driver for the motherboard and allows instructions from higher level computer languages to communicate with lower level components, such as directly with hardware.

Aa, all i can say is the info is out there on the internets!!!:D the best example i can give is if you go to Resource Monitor and look at how much ram is allocated for hardware with your current hardware config then swap out your video card with one that has a different amount of ram on it, you will see that difference reflected in Resource Monitor under hardware memory allocation.;)

filosofem
02-08-2012, 10:21 PM
Well gamers must have a hard time of it with 3GB DDR5 four way SLI/CrossFireX multiple GPU configurations. :D

filosofem
02-08-2012, 10:25 PM
the best example i can give is if you go to Resource Monitor and look at how much ram is allocated for hardware with your current hardware config then swap out your video card with one that has a different amount of ram on it, you will see that difference reflected in Resource Monitor under hardware memory allocation.;)
Okay in real terms under a 64-bit Operating System with 24 GB plus seated RAM what difference is a 512 MB card over a 1 GB card going to make to Pro Tools?

mykhal c
02-08-2012, 10:35 PM
Okay in real terms under a 64-bit Operating System with 24 GB plus seated RAM what difference is a 512 MB card over a 1 GB card going to make to Pro Tools?

from my 1st reply...;)

so while this might not be a biggie on systems with huge amounts of ram, it still requires that the hardware makeup on each system be accurately reflected in the HAL.;)

filosofem
02-08-2012, 10:43 PM
so while this might not be a biggie on systems with huge amounts of ram
So, we shouldn't be pinging users for choosing 1GB dedicated GPU's.

mykhal c
02-08-2012, 10:54 PM
So, we shouldn't be pinging users for choosing 1GB dedicated GPU's.

just depends how optimized one wants to be...

djmichaelwenz
02-09-2012, 09:46 AM
I am with Vegadark... I need some up to date suggestions???

Do you have any recommendations for a Motherboard and Processor currently on www.Newegg.com that works well?

I wish to get both for around 3-350....

jello
02-09-2012, 09:56 AM
Intel® Core i7-3930K Processor (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=648701)

ASUS P9X79 WS, Socket-2011 (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=656337)

Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 16GB CL9 (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=618011) (2x 32gig total)

Corsair H80 Hydro Series

Quadro FX 580 512MB

Corsair AX 850W PSU (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=600426)

Corsair Obsidian 800D Big Tower



Cheers from Norway:-)


The parts are ordered:D

albee1952
02-09-2012, 12:52 PM
My personal opinion, but $350 is simply not enough for a solid Pro Tools motherboard and cpu:rolleyes: I would look at any X58 motherboard and a socket 1366 i7. I bet with a 920 cpu and an x58 mobo on sale, you could get in under $500(and its a proven combo). Most likely you will also need new RAM as the x58 mobo's are all DDR3 and triple channel(so you want a 6 GB or 12GB RAM kit with 3 matching sticks). You also want a beefy power supply that has a single 12V+ rail that can handle 50 amps, or split rails at 18 amps minimum(The +12v is what powers the cpu and the i7 950 can pull 18 amps by itself, then add all the drives and fans and your 12V gets chewed up fast). The i5/i7 Sandybridge(socket 1155) setups are not nearly as well proven as the socket 1366/x58 systems, and the new Sandybridge E(socket 2011) is way more money.

graveleye
02-09-2012, 02:55 PM
the amount of ram it will take from your system to use this card. getting a card that requires less ram will take less ram away from your system overall. a 512mb card is plenty for pt.

OK, can you recommend a video card for me then?

Also, how does the rest of my rig look? I'm not a noob, but not a techie either so I'm looking for some reassurance before I throw down the dough.

guitardom
02-09-2012, 07:35 PM
OK, can you recommend a video card for me then?

Also, how does the rest of my rig look? I'm not a noob, but not a techie either so I'm looking for some reassurance before I throw down the dough.

i would guess a simple card like this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121483) would be fine.

your parts list looked good to me. i am not sure if you had a psu picked out yet. imo the psu is the one part to not skimp on. i am a fan of either corsair (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010) or ocz.

dstryrwiz
02-10-2012, 12:22 AM
I sort of forgot to stop back in here once I finished building my system. I still have a little fine tuning to do (such as finishing customizing everything on one drive before cloning it to my SSD), but here's what I have:

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K

Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme9

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (8 x 4GB) DDR3 1600

GPU: MSI GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores

Monitor: HP LP3065 30" 2560x1400 resolution

Storage:
Kingston HyperX 120GB (Boot)
x4 Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB

PSU: Corsair AX850

Case: Fractal Design Define XL

Cooling:
Thermalright Silver Arrow
x1 180mm case fan
x3 140mm case fans
x2 120mm case fans

Firewire: SIIG FireWire 2-Port PCIe

Fan Controller

I think that's about it. I overclocked the system to 4.6GHz and overclocked the video card to 930MHz, but I don't know what everyone's opinion is on that in regards to audio recording. Does overclocking go over well in these applications, and if so, what should I be watching out for in regards to potential complications. One anomaly I've been dealing with has been random files either vanishing or getting corrupted and I don't know if that may or may not be related to the overclock, or if something else can be going wrong that needs to be addressed. If anyone has any recommendations for me at this point, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. Also if anyone is familiar with setting up RAM caching/RAM disk and can give some input on its effectiveness, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks again!

mykhal c
02-10-2012, 01:05 AM
my 2cents...no need to OC your rig. i'd play with it stock for awhile and then toy with OC'g it. but a rig like this, no need to...really. as far as your ram cache...with 32gb, you will be allowed to assign as much as 28gb to ram cache. take your biggest session and add to it. if it's 12gb then maybe set it to 16gb. up to you really...if you are usin' VEPro then you'll definitely wanna leave as much for that as you need. it really comes down to tryin' 'em and seein' what works best.;) congrats on your build:cool:

mano111
02-10-2012, 04:55 AM
I sort of forgot to stop back in here once I finished building my system. I still have a little fine tuning to do (such as finishing customizing everything on one drive before cloning it to my SSD), but here's what I have:

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K

Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme9

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (8 x 4GB) DDR3 1600

GPU: MSI GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores

Monitor: HP LP3065 30" 2560x1400 resolution

Storage:
Kingston HyperX 120GB (Boot)
x4 Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB

PSU: Corsair AX850

Case: Fractal Design Define XL

Cooling:
Thermalright Silver Arrow
x1 180mm case fan
x3 140mm case fans
x2 120mm case fans

Firewire: SIIG FireWire 2-Port PCIe

Fan Controller

I think that's about it. I overclocked the system to 4.6GHz and overclocked the video card to 930MHz, but I don't know what everyone's opinion is on that in regards to audio recording. Does overclocking go over well in these applications, and if so, what should I be watching out for in regards to potential complications. One anomaly I've been dealing with has been random files either vanishing or getting corrupted and I don't know if that may or may not be related to the overclock, or if something else can be going wrong that needs to be addressed. If anyone has any recommendations for me at this point, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. Also if anyone is familiar with setting up RAM caching/RAM disk and can give some input on its effectiveness, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks again!

Very nice build,

I'd stay away from overclocking your video card. The amount of added heat and power consumption is gonna shorten its life and may affect other components as well (PSU, MOBO...). If your not an extreme gamer looking for the absolute highest frame rate benchmarks you will see no gain at all.

OCing the CPU is acceptable especially when dealing with SNB or SNB-E. These chips beg to be OCed. If your voltage stays around 1.2-1.3 when moderate load and it doesn't go over 1.4 when maxed out your good in my book. I prefer a bit lower OC and lower voltages as these CPUs are super-fast anyway.

With that much RAM and a SSD boot drive I'd recommend disabling swap file. I do it on any system with more than 8GB and a SSD boot drive. SSDs are write limited and swap files tend to shorten their life significantly.

graveleye
02-10-2012, 11:40 AM
i would guess a simple card like this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121483) would be fine.

your parts list looked good to me. i am not sure if you had a psu picked out yet. imo the psu is the one part to not skimp on. i am a fan of either corsair (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010) or ocz.

Thanks and I truly appreciate it. I was looking for a PSU as well, so you've really helped me out.

Time to shop!!

graveleye
02-10-2012, 02:51 PM
One last thing.... I need a box to put it all in. Probably this is the simplest part of it all....suggestions? I don't need a rackmount or anything fancy.

filosofem
02-10-2012, 03:21 PM
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme9
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (8 x 4GB) DDR3 1600
GPU: MSI GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores
Monitor: HP LP3065 30" 2560x1400 resolution
Storage: Kingston HyperX 120GB (Boot)
x4 Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
PSU: Corsair AX850
Case: Fractal Design Define XL
Cooling: Thermalright Silver Arrow
x1 180mm case fan
x3 140mm case fans
x2 120mm case fans
Firewire: SIIG FireWire 2-Port PCIe
Nice rig dstryrwiz. How is Pro Tools operating for you? Dverb count? And that's a pretty powerful graphics card.

Sawllkwa
02-10-2012, 11:42 PM
I sort of forgot to stop back in here once I finished building my system. I still have a little fine tuning to do (such as finishing customizing everything on one drive before cloning it to my SSD), but here's what I have:
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme9
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (8 x 4GB) DDR3 1600
GPU: MSI GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores
Monitor: HP LP3065 30" 2560x1400 resolution
Storage:
Kingston HyperX 120GB (Boot)
x4 Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
PSU: Corsair AX850
Case: Fractal Design Define XL
Cooling:
Thermalright Silver Arrow
x1 180mm case fan
x3 140mm case fans
x2 120mm case fans
Firewire: SIIG FireWire 2-Port PCIe
Fan Controller
I think that's about it. I overclocked the system to 4.6GHz and overclocked the video card to 930MHz, but I don't know what everyone's opinion is on that in regards to audio recording. Does overclocking go over well in these applications, and if so, what should I be watching out for in regards to potential complications. One anomaly I've been dealing with has been random files either vanishing or getting corrupted and I don't know if that may or may not be related to the overclock, or if something else can be going wrong that needs to be addressed. If anyone has any recommendations for me at this point, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. Also if anyone is familiar with setting up RAM caching/RAM disk and can give some input on its effectiveness, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks again!

Yeah nice video card, was actually thinking the same one. I also went with a large case. I was told it would need very good airflow and lots of fans, but my cpu hovers around 40C

Blissful World
02-11-2012, 10:57 AM
After overcoming a few roadblocks, here is my now happy Win7 box designed for a composer who doesn't do final mixes [in other words, more than fast enough for composing and most tasks short of running a commercial studio]

Win7 64-bit
Intel i2500k stock, no OC
Asus P8P67 mobo [no need for Deluxe]
Coolermaster V6GT CPU Cooler [overkill gaming cooler I inherited when I bought a guy's two-month old PC for half retail price; you don't need this, but it's high quality and quiet enough]
16 GB Corsair 1600 RAM running at 1333 [fast enough for PT]
Gigabyte Radeon 6770 Silent Cell video card [featuring the world's most humongous heat sink! I have to do some moderate video editing, too]
OS HD = Seagate 500 GB
Audio HD = Hitachi 1 TB [is it too big? Not sure, some old-timers like really small drives . . . and have heard some say you need TWO Audio drives to make PT most happy? I'll start with one, since I rarely record more than one or two tracks at a time]
Samples HD = Older WD 160 GB with minimal use [it's not a great time to buy hard drives right now after floods in Thailand]
Backup HD = WD Green 2 TB
SIIG PCI FW 400 card [the recommended one, NN440122, or a number close to that, although this one's a ten year old craigslist special I bought for $5 -- it runs with Win7 64 bit drives!]
Coolermaster Storm Scout case [inherited gaming case; HOWEVER, it has so much air flow you hardly need any noisy fans, especially with my CPU cooler and passive video card. And the looks and carrying handle are great.]
Generic LG DVD

Running with Mackie Onyx Blackbird firewire interface which PT detected and seems simpatico with. I don't want to jinx myself, and I'm psychologically prepared for some rebellion here and there, but it would appear the folklore is correct: on the Windows side, it may take some trial and error and standing on your head to find a configuration PT likes, but, once it does, you're golden :-)

filosofem
02-11-2012, 12:10 PM
SIIG PCI FW 400 card [the recommended one, NN440122
The Avid Qualified SIIG FireWire 400 PCI adapter Part Number is NN440012 Sx.

dstryrwiz
02-11-2012, 06:18 PM
Nice rig dstryrwiz. How is Pro Tools operating for you? Dverb count? And that's a pretty powerful graphics card.

Once I finish with customizations (which at this point may include needing to reinstall Windows 7 due to files randomly vanishing on me, but that may have had to do with temporarily setting up a RAM cache for some temp files and I think some files that weren't temp files may have somehow ended up there by mistake, thus on restart becoming missing, but I'm not sure yet), and once I clone my boot drive to my SSD to take advantage of that. I have yet to experiment with Pro Tools yet, but as soon as I do I will be sure to report back.

Blissful World
02-12-2012, 01:19 PM
The Avid Qualified SIIG FireWire 400 PCI adapter Part Number is NN440012 Sx.

That be it. Except I don't think it needs the Sx -- as of a few weeks ago the Avid recommended part did not call for the extra two characters. There have been some minor tweaks over a decade, but apparaently SIIG had it right in 2002. The funny thing is Mackie Onyx Control reports that the onboard VIA firewire controller has been tested, and the SIIG hasn't, lol! I'm not sure I want to find out if that's true . . . Of course elsewhere Mackie constantly sings the praises of TI FW. Things seem happy so far, but I haven't torture tested anything, I'm new to PT and feeling my way around.

Speaking of "being psychologically prepared for some rebellion here and there," today PT wouldn't launch because it couldn't find the iLok which was in the same USB2 port it's been for the last three days. I had been poking around Mackie Control panel a bit before. I had to reboot and put the dongle in and out a few times. Now all is well again. "Getting to know you, getting to know all about you . . . "

philip888
02-13-2012, 08:29 PM
Is this an acceptable SIIG Firewire card?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250989427698?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649#ht_3197wt_1145

filosofem
02-13-2012, 10:20 PM
Is this an acceptable SIIG Firewire card?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250989427698?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649#ht_3197wt_1145
Hey Philip

That SIIG adapter looks safe, there are only two PCIe 400 type cards available NN-E20012-S2 and NN-E20112-S2 (with Ulead VideoStudio DV editing software) and given that the auction details does not mention including the Ulead VideoStudio DV editing software, you would assume the Part Number of that SIIG Adapter is the Avid Qualified NN-E20012-S2.

philip888
02-13-2012, 10:36 PM
Thanks Arron.

philip888
02-14-2012, 10:32 PM
Helping a friend with a new Pro Tools build for them.

Need some suggestions on a case.

I have a Cooler Master Cosmos but I want something not as exspensive for them.

This is an i7 Giga board build. Any suggestions. Thanks

mano111
02-15-2012, 03:54 AM
Philip, how about Antec p183? The new p280 also looks good though I haven't used it.

philip888
02-15-2012, 11:48 PM
Philip, how about Antec p183? The new p280 also looks good though I haven't used it.


Yep, went with the Antec p280 for her build. Thanks for the suggestion.

Philip S.

graveleye
02-16-2012, 09:18 AM
I'm a little nervous about installing the CPU the mobo - any tips on doing that? Apparently if you bend the pins you are screwed with no refund either.

I've noticed some i7 motherboard CPU combos? Anyone used any or have a recommendation?

This looks kind of cool - will it work?
http://www.outletpc.com/e1001a0-core-i7-motherboard-and-cpu-combo-deals.html

jello
02-16-2012, 06:46 PM
This looks kind of cool - will it work?
http://www.outletpc.com/e1001a0-core-i7-motherboard-and-cpu-combo-deals.html

Yeah, nice combo:-)

arhall
02-17-2012, 12:52 AM
Hi.

Anybody who applied this driver update for win7 sp1?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2529073

filosofem
02-17-2012, 11:51 AM
Hi.

Anybody who applied this driver update for win7 sp1?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2529073
Are you in fact having problems?

arhall
02-17-2012, 12:23 PM
Are you in fact having problems?
Not any more. Had some -9128 but I think I've solved most of the problem now. But I found this link and got curious.

albee1952
02-17-2012, 02:03 PM
I'm a little nervous about installing the CPU the mobo - any tips on doing that? Apparently if you bend the pins you are screwed with no refund either.

I've noticed some i7 motherboard CPU combos? Anyone used any or have a recommendation?

This looks kind of cool - will it work?
http://www.outletpc.com/e1001a0-core-i7-motherboard-and-cpu-combo-deals.html
I am running that very combo with solid performance here. While its considered "old" in computer lingo, its a well proven package with either 6 or 12GB of triple-channel RAM. Dropping the cpu into the socket is simple(if its NOT simple, you're doing it wrong:p). Newegg.com has tutorial videos on building a rig, or youtube is another great source of help. The cpu has a marking on one corner, as does the socket. Go slow, be careful, pay attention and all should be fine(I've built about 16 machines over the last 6 years and have not screwed one up yet). I bet you hear me knocking on wood:p:p

filosofem
02-17-2012, 02:57 PM
Not any more. Had some -9128 but I think I've solved most of the problem now. But I found this link and got curious.
Generally, if there was a problem that required such action, everyone running a USB device on Windows 7 would have the same issue. I would stay clear. Could get you into more trouble than what it is worth.

Sawllkwa
02-18-2012, 10:18 AM
I am running that very combo with solid performance here. While its considered "old" in computer lingo, its a well proven package with either 6 or 12GB of triple-channel RAM. Dropping the cpu into the socket is simple(if its NOT simple, you're doing it wrong:p). Newegg.com has tutorial videos on building a rig, or youtube is another great source of help. The cpu has a marking on one corner, as does the socket. Go slow, be careful, pay attention and all should be fine(I've built about 16 machines over the last 6 years and have not screwed one up yet). I bet you hear me knocking on wood:p:p

Yeah lots of good vids on newegg and youtube. I was super nervous too (my first cpu drop) and I think I watched every video I found :)

On my friends suggestion, I even removed the 'factory installed' cpu heat paste, and used another he gave me. He builds computers to run nuclear reactors, so I trusted his word :P

ANP57
02-20-2012, 05:16 AM
After going through this great thread during past couple of weeks I´ve decided to upgrade my 2007 Core2Quad system. I´d like to to build it around the very common Gigabyte board. The tricky part is that GA-X58A-UD3R seems to be nowadays unavailable in Europe - at least in most places. Therefore I guess I´m safe with GA-X58A-UD5 rev 2.0 am I?

Here my proposal. Feel free to comment and give feedback. I´m kinda looking for the best bang for the buck and also trying to avoid the sleepless nights trying to stabilize the system ;)


Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD5 rev 2.0


Intel Core i7-960 - 3.2 GHz - Cache L3 8 Mt - Socket LGA 1366 (box)


Cooler Coolermaster Hyper TX3 EVO


Video Card ASUS GeForce 210 SILENT - 1 Gt GDDR3 - PCI-Express 2.0 (EN210 SILENT/DI/1GD3/V2(LP))


Memory Corsair Vengeance 12 GB Kit PC3-12800, 1600MHz, 3x240 DIMM 12 GB Kit(3x4096 MB)


System HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB Serial-ATA-II 16MB cache (recycled)


Sample HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 - 1T - SATA 6 Gt/S - 7200 T/M - 64 Mt CACHE


Audio HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 - 1T - SATA 6 Gt/S - 7200 T/M - 64 Mt CACHE
I´m hoping the be able to use my old case and psu. This would be Antec Sonata 2 450W, ATX12V v2.01. Do you see problems with the power supplly not being powerfull enough? I´m not going to overclock the pc at least in first place.

Is there huge benefit from doubling the memory up to 24 Gb? I´m typically not using a lot of VI´s in sessions. Some occasional Strike or BFD2 every now and then.

Other facts:
Interface 002R
Command 8
WIN7 Ultimate 64bit
Pro Tools 10

What should I except the Dverb result be with the specs above?

Thanks a lot!

mano111
02-20-2012, 06:38 AM
After going through this great thread during past couple of weeks I´ve decided to upgrade my 2007 Core2Quad system. I´d like to to build it around the very common Gigabyte board. The tricky part is that GA-X58A-UD3R seems to be nowadays unavailable in Europe - at least in most places. Therefore I guess I´m safe with GA-X58A-UD5 rev 2.0 am I?

Here my proposal. Feel free to comment and give feedback. I´m kinda looking for the best bang for the buck and also trying to avoid the sleepless nights trying to stabilize the system ;)


Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD5 rev 2.0
The UD5 had known issues in the past with noises in DAW. I'd stay away. If you can't get your hands on a UD3R then you can try the Asus P6T.




Intel Core i7-960 - 3.2 GHz - Cache L3 8 Mt - Socket LGA 1366 (box)


Cooler Coolermaster Hyper TX3 EVO

That cooler is not a good choice IMO. Try the Cooler Master Hyper 212, or a better Noctua or similar tower with a quiet 12cm fan




Video Card ASUS GeForce 210 SILENT - 1 Gt GDDR3 - PCI-Express 2.0 (EN210 SILENT/DI/1GD3/V2(LP))
Memory Corsair Vengeance 12 GB Kit PC3-12800, 1600MHz, 3x240 DIMM 12 GB Kit(3x4096 MB)
System HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB Serial-ATA-II 16MB cache (recycled)
Sample HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 - 1T - SATA 6 Gt/S - 7200 T/M - 64 Mt CACHE
Audio HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 - 1T - SATA 6 Gt/S - 7200 T/M - 64 Mt CACHE
I´m hoping the be able to use my old case and psu. This would be Antec Sonata 2 450W, ATX12V v2.01. Do you see problems with the power supplly not being powerfull enough? I´m not going to overclock the pc at least in first place.
The 450W Antec PSU that comes with the Sonata II is borderline for this system. My bet is it will work as it is fairly efficient and your video card power draw is low. Since you are only reusing the case + PSU and a single HDD I strongly recommend you get a new Case + ~600W PSU + a system HDD. That way you get to keep your quad core system for other uses.

Is there huge benefit from doubling the memory up to 24 Gb? I´m typically not using a lot of VI´s in sessions. Some occasional Strike or BFD2 every now and then.

Only reason I can think of for getting more RAM is if your using RAM intensive VIs. I'd keep it at 12GB.

Other facts:
Interface 002R
Command 8
WIN7 Ultimate 64bit
Pro Tools 10

What should I except the Dverb result be with the specs above?

Thanks a lot!

Good luck with your build. I'd expect ~300-350 dverbs based on similar systems scores.

albee1952
02-20-2012, 06:53 AM
Good advice^^^^re. the power supply. I have an i7 950 on the UD3R(works great) and the cpu can pull 18 amps by itself, then add the drives and fans. Take a look at the +12V spec on your old PSU as I expect the 960 can pull the same or a little more. Since I am not overclocking, I ran the stock cooler here with no issues. In the name of "quiet", I went with a Corsair h60 liquid cooler.

mykhal c
02-20-2012, 11:29 AM
i7 3820...they're here :D http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229


Intel® Core™ i7 Desktop Processor Family (http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?familyID=28037)

and this looks very interestin'...first time seein' it but looks it could be a super time saver when changin' to a new build...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832300022

jello
02-20-2012, 12:10 PM
[QUOTE=jello;1899385]
Intel® Core i7-3930K Processor
ASUS P9X79 WS, Socket-2011 (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=656337)
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 16GB CL9 (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=618011) (2x 32gig total)
Corsair H80 Hydro Series
ASUS Radeon HD 6450 512MB DDR3 Silent (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=632747)
Corsair AX 850W PSU (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=600426)
Corsair Obsidian 800D Big Tower
WD caviar black 500 gig system 32mb cache
WD caviar black 1000 gig audio 64mb cache

Protools 10, digi 002.




I have put my Corsair rig together, got my siig FW card today and did some tests. For now I am using an old WD caviar black 32mb cache drive from the old system, I think the performance will be even higher when I get a new hardrive for my system, any ssd drives that will get the job done?


On my i7 970/gigabyte rig I got 400 dverbs 1024 buffer which was good.

On my i7 3930K/asus rig I got:

1024 buffer: 660 dverbs which is HIGH:eek:. CPU meter at 95%. I used 11cores 99% instead of 12cores 90% (the highest setting), plugin streaming buffer at default.

64 buffer: 484 dverbs which also is very high. CPU meter at 83%. I used 12cores at 90%, plugin streaming buffer at default.

My corsair H100 cpu fan was making alot of noise at 100%, it is silent at low fan setting, cpu at 70 degrees.

With 32gig of ram I think its time to buy CPTK and get some disk cache.


I also tried the TPU overclocking feature and got the pc clocked to 4.9gig:-)I used that insane clocking on the dverb tests. Great build!

Big thanks to Sawllkwa for the idea that something like this is possible.

ANP57
02-21-2012, 06:15 AM
Thanks mano and albee!

Asus P6T seems to be hard to find as well. How about the P6T WS Professional or P6TD Deluxe? The Deluxe model seems have the different VIA FW controller than P6T. And WS professional comes with LSI FW controller...

P6TS WS Professional
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1366/P6T_WS_Professional/

P6TD Deluxe
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1366/P6TD_Deluxe/

Which one do you guys recommend?

albee1952
02-21-2012, 11:03 AM
I'm not the final word on this, but I think the Deluxe would work fine, while the other model looks to have stuff you don't need(or do you need SAS or PCI-X?:rolleyes:). As for the firewire, a $50 SIIG card is always an option if the onboard FW doesn't work:D Remember that you may need to "do a little dance" with firewire drivers(IOW, try the 3 drivers that are available on your system).

filosofem
02-21-2012, 04:58 PM
P6TS WS Professional
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1366/P6T_WS_Professional/
Workstation for any DAW. Higher quality components, higher levels of Qualified vendors. Higher level of testing. Pro Tools, amongst others are high end digital audio workstation applications that require the best quality.

guitardom
02-21-2012, 07:03 PM
i7 3820...they're here :D http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229


Intel® Core™ i7 Desktop Processor Family (http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?familyID=28037)

and this looks very interestin'...first time seein' it but looks it could be a super time saver when changin' to a new build...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832300022

i need to talk to you about this sometime. i might be willing to take the plunge if it looks impressive enough.

TOM@METRO
02-22-2012, 12:29 PM
I just read the article Mykhal sent. Very interesting. This appears to be THE CPU for a cost effective upgrade. I'm still thinking about the 3930 though.

Dan Presland
02-24-2012, 05:21 AM
had a quick search but couldn't find much at all.. my gigabyte x58 ud3r just died, was wondering if the z68 is a compatible upgrade with pro tools?
Cheers

albee1952
02-24-2012, 09:01 AM
had a quick search but couldn't find much at all.. my gigabyte x58 ud3r just died, was wondering if the z68 is a compatible upgrade with pro tools?
Cheers
Probably not a good choice(Onboard graphics). Why not get the newer version and re-use everything else(x58A UD3R).

filosofem
02-24-2012, 11:39 AM
was wondering if the z68 is a compatible upgrade with pro tools?
Some chipset manufactures host GPU on the northbridge with Z68 however Intel LGA 1155 Socket which is compatible with Z68 chipset supports on-die GPU. Non-dedicated graphics cards over the past have shown to be not successful and probably never will be given the nature of Pro Tools. Anyways I'm with Albee, recycle your current components with a new X58 motherboard.

qtheproducer
02-25-2012, 11:01 PM
Some chipset manufactures host GPU on the northbridge with Z68 however Intel LGA 1155 Socket which is compatible with Z68 chipset supports on-die GPU. Non-dedicated graphics cards over the past have shown to be not successful and probably never will be given the nature of Pro Tools. Anyways I'm with Albee, recycle your current components with a new X58 motherboard.

Why would it not work? I ask this question because I am about to make a new audio workstation and have some thinking to do maybe people in this thread can help me...

I am about to buy these components....

1 corsair 850w pro series gold power supply
1 Intel core i7 2700k
1 Asus p8z68-v/gen3 Z68 ...OR... 1 Asrock p67 Extreme Gen3
1 Microsoft OEM win7 pro 64bit sp1
1 Antec Kuhler h20 9320
3 seagate 1tb 3.5" sata 7200rpm hdd
2 Kingston KHX1600c9d3k2/8gx ddr3 ( basically 4 4gig ram memory sticks at ddr 3 1600mhz)
1 PNY Geforce GTX550 TI 1GB GD5 pci-e

Then I would do some overclocking and disable the motherboards onboard graphics and make it use the pny geforce gtx550 ti....

Anyone know if this setup will work? Has anyone had Success using the 2 motherboards I listed? I will continue searching this thread but its a pretty big one and if anyone can help guide me on if this build I am building would not work/ have conflictions please let me know.

I have been researching these 2 motherboards for about a week and a half now and I cant figure out if they are compatible with pro tools and mbox 3rd generation drivers. :(

mano111
02-26-2012, 05:06 AM
Why would it not work?
......

1 corsair 850w pro series gold power supply
1 Intel core i7 2700k
1 Asus p8z68-v/gen3 Z68 ...OR... 1 Asrock p67 Extreme Gen3
1 Microsoft OEM win7 pro 64bit sp1
1 Antec Kuhler h20 9320
3 seagate 1tb 3.5" sata 7200rpm hdd
2 Kingston KHX1600c9d3k2/8gx ddr3 ( basically 4 4gig ram memory sticks at ddr 3 1600mhz)
1 PNY Geforce GTX550 TI 1GB GD5 pci-e

Then I would do some overclocking and disable the motherboards onboard graphics and make it use the pny geforce gtx550 ti....

Anyone know if this setup will work? Has anyone had Success using the 2 motherboards I listed? I will continue searching this thread but its a pretty big one and if anyone can help guide me on if this build I am building would not work/ have conflictions please let me know.

I have been researching these 2 motherboards for about a week and a half now and I cant figure out if they are compatible with pro tools and mbox 3rd generation drivers. :(

Many Z68 boards have known issues. If anything go with a P67 board. Known to work are Intel DP67BG and Asus P67 Pro or abouve.

You'll need a dedicated audio drive. I only see one in your list.

850W and GTX 550 TI? are you planning on playin games on this machine? If not you can drop to 500W PSU (seasonic X560 Gold maybe?) and a Silent GT210, GT520 or similar GPU.

albee1952
02-26-2012, 09:00 AM
Many Z68 boards have known issues. If anything go with a P67 board. Known to work are Intel DP67BG and Asus P67 Pro or abouve.

You'll need a dedicated audio drive. I only see one in your list.

850W and GTX 550 TI? are you planning on playin games on this machine? If not you can drop to 500W PSU (seasonic X560 Gold maybe?) and a Silent GT210, GT520 or similar GPU.
All true, but I would keep a beefy power supply. From recent builds(and problems), I was informed about the +12V rail and how important it is. My i7 950 can pull 18 amps and my PSU was rated for 16 amps on split +12V rails. Now I have a single rail supply rated at 54 amps and it works much better. +12V also feeds all the drives and fans so don't skimp. Having just finished a P67 build, I am less than impressed. It doesn't hold a candle to my X58A/i7 950 setup:rolleyes:. I could easily overclock any of my rigs, but they are stable and powerful as is, so stock timings for me:D

mano111
02-26-2012, 10:51 AM
All true, but I would keep a beefy power supply. From recent builds(and problems), I was informed about the +12V rail and how important it is. My i7 950 can pull 18 amps and my PSU was rated for 16 amps on split +12V rails. Now I have a single rail supply rated at 54 amps and it works much better. +12V also feeds all the drives and fans so don't skimp.

Beefy is good, but too big isn't. The Seasonic X560 gold (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151098) has 46A on a single rail. It cost ~$60 less than the Corsair 850 gold. The X560 will be more efficient at the operating power requirements of the proposed system especially on lower loads. SNB platform draws less power than the X58 i7 9xxs.


Having just finished a P67 build, I am less than impressed. It doesn't hold a candle to my X58A/i7 950 setup:rolleyes:.

Details please ...;)

mykhal c
02-26-2012, 11:45 PM
i thought that the split rail PSUs were preferred. did this change?

cslr2012
02-28-2012, 11:40 AM
Hi everyone. This is my first time on this forum and I'm not realy sure if this is the right way to ask my question. I followed the Avid instructions to disable Startup Services within Win 7 64Bit except the Avid ones. All seems to work ok except my Keyboard cannot play the Instruments anymore. After enabling the services it works again. I guess I disabled too many services. Does anyone know which ones are absolutely nessecary?

mesaone
02-28-2012, 11:57 AM
This is my rig, confirmed stable [repost from another thread]

Confirmed stable here. i7 960 3.2 GHz (LGA 1366) with an ASUS Sabertooth X58 motherboard.

I can confirm the following for three Pro Tools versions (LE8, 9, 10)
-works with G-Skill Ripjaws RAM overclocked to 1600
-works with hyperthreading on (4x2 cores)
-works with hyperthreading off (4 cores)
-works with overclock (at least with my 960 upped to 3.8 GHz)

A few things:

1) I turn AERO off, and set the shortcut for pro tools to "disable desktop composition"
2) PT runs better for me when utilizing 3 of 4 cores (hyperthreading off)
3) I am currently using MBOX 3. Milage may vary for other interfaces I suppose.
4) I have tested two firewire interfaces, both had dropouts and driver problems with the motherboard's built-in FW port. I installed a 3rd party PCI express card with the TI chipset ($25 from NewEgg) and that fixed it.
5) while PT works even with this processor overclocked to 3.8GHz, I reduced it to 3.4 because of heat concerns. Currently using the Antec Kuhler 620 closed-loop liquid cooling system

one edit: With hyperthreading on, I encountered a bug when bouncing to disk with PT10. The countdown would freeze, while the bounce continued as normal. If left alone, bounce would complete successfully and Pro Tools would resume as normal. If I clicked anywhere after the timer froze, pro tools would lock up. Leaving the computer alone until bounce was finished prevented further problems.

mesaone
02-28-2012, 12:07 PM
Hi everyone. This is my first time on this forum and I'm not realy sure if this is the right way to ask my question. I followed the Avid instructions to disable Startup Services within Win 7 64Bit except the Avid ones. All seems to work ok except my Keyboard cannot play the Instruments anymore. After enabling the services it works again. I guess I disabled too many services. Does anyone know which ones are absolutely nessecary?

you inadvertently disabled your keyboard's driver, I think. What model? Disabling startup services can be tricky. It would be better to try to find the problematic services one at a time (like updaters and HID drivers and the like) until you find your fix.

Try this:
1) Boot up with ALL services enabled.
2) open Services.msc, go to the Action menu and select "export list". It will prompt you to save the file. Name it "before" and save it to the desktop.
3) boot up with all non-microsoft and non-avid services disabled.
4) export list again, name it "after"
5) compare the contents of the before and after lists, your keyboard driver will be in the "after" file but not in the "before" file
6) use process of elimination to find which one is responsible for your kb

EDIT: there is a very useful free tool called Notepad++ that has a built-in Compare function. It allows you to open 2 text documents and compare the contents. It will highlight all the differences, making this process a lot easier.

qtheproducer
02-28-2012, 08:21 PM
I apologize but I have a question....

How many cores can pro tools support on PT 10?

The reason I ask is because I am about to purchase a i7-3930k processor and a lga 2011 socket motherboard...

The i7-3930k is a six-core cpu/ 12 threads. I am wondering if PT 10 will take full advantage of all 6 cores/12 threads..???

Thank you to the people who have previously responded to my questions :-)

mykhal c
02-28-2012, 11:22 PM
I apologize but I have a question....

How many cores can pro tools support on PT 10?

The reason I ask is because I am about to purchase a i7-3930k processor and a lga 2011 socket motherboard...

The i7-3930k is a six-core cpu/ 12 threads. I am wondering if PT 10 will take full advantage of all 6 cores/12 threads..???

Thank you to the people who have previously responded to my questions :-)

here ya go...http://duc.avid.com/showpost.php?p=1897811&postcount=4648:D

stgaudio
02-29-2012, 03:24 AM
Hi All. New here, and jumping onto PT 10 from another popular PC DAW. My system is already built but I'd really appreciate it is some of you with experience building PT rigs could cast your eye over my system and check it for pitfalls.

I'm pretty sure the build is ok apart from the graphics card which sucks and causes nasty glitch outs & blank GUI with the more recent waves plugins when in heavy load projects. If there are any other issues in there could you red flag them!

Could you recommend a reasonably priced graphics card that can handle mild video editing, but mainly, just audio.

Win 7 x64 Home Premium
i7 920 (socket 1366)
Gigabyte EX58-UD4
12GB DDR3 (Kingston 2GB x4 / Vengeance 4GB x1)
ATI Radeon HD 345

many thanks

E

albee1952
02-29-2012, 06:24 AM
Hi All. New here, and jumping onto PT 10 from another popular PC DAW. My system is already built but I'd really appreciate it is some of you with experience building PT rigs could cast your eye over my system and check it for pitfalls.

I'm pretty sure the build is ok apart from the graphics card which sucks and causes nasty glitch outs & blank GUI with the more recent waves plugins when in heavy load projects. If there are any other issues in there could you red flag them!

Could you recommend a reasonably priced graphics card that can handle mild video editing, but mainly, just audio.

Win 7 x64 Home Premium
i7 920 (socket 1366)
Gigabyte EX58-UD4
12GB DDR3 (Kingston 2GB x4 / Vengeance 4GB x1)
ATI Radeon HD 345

many thanks

E
Running a very similar setup here, but with nVidia graphics and its been nearly perfect for a year. The RAM is not well appointed. X58 motherboards are designed to run triple channel RAM and that requires 3 or 6 identical sticks. That might net a boost in performance if you pull the RAM and install a 6GB or 12GB kit. Mis-matched RAM can cause performance problems.

stgaudio
02-29-2012, 06:51 AM
When you say nearly perfect, what problems have you had?

So I can't use 4x 2GB Dimms for 8GB ram? Because of triple channel?

Anyone got any suggestions for a good value, reliable graphics card?

many thanks

albee1952
02-29-2012, 09:19 AM
When you say nearly perfect, what problems have you had?

So I can't use 4x 2GB Dimms for 8GB ram? Because of triple channel?

Anyone got any suggestions for a good value, reliable graphics card?

many thanks
The nVidia 210 is working nicely on my i7 950 rig. Triple channel RAM requires RAM in multiples of 3. Dual channel uses multiples of 2. As for issues, some may be my own fault, but I get occasional 9128 errors(which is fairly new so its likely software related). Dverb2 testing yielded a number of 500@1024 and that ain't shabby! Both my optical drives are external(1 firewire and 1 USB2). All hard drives are in a 4 slot Kingston drive cage for easy swap. I also have some outdated plugins that should be updated(can't afford the WUP right now).


My i5 setup that's NOT working so good: It works okay at 1024, but I have to track there and use LLM(so no plugins or headphone mixes:()
SiSoftware Sandra

Computer
Model : System manufacturer System Product Name
Workgroup : WORKGROUP
Host Name : i52500K
User : dave

Processor
Model : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Speed : 3.3GHz
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
Integrated Data Cache : 2x 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L2 On-board Cache : 2x 256kB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L3 On-board Cache : 6MB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 12-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size, 4 threads sharing

Computer
Mainboard : Asus P8P67
BIOS : AMI 1503 03/10/2011
Bus(es) : X-Bus PCI PCIe USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : No
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR3

Chipset
Model : ASUS Sandy Bridge DRAM Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 100MHz (100MHz)
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR3
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 800MHz (1.6GHz)

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Kingston 9905403-198A00LF 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Kingston 9905403-198A00LF 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800U DDR3-1600 (9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5)

Video System
Video Adapter : ATI Radeon HD 5400 Series (160 SM5.0 650MHz, 512MB DDR3 2x667MHz, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Video Adapter : ATI Radeon HD 5400 Series (160 SM5.0 650MHz, 512MB DDR3 2x667MHz, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor
Adapter : ATI Radeon HD 5400 Series (160SP 2C 650MHz, 512MB 2x667MHz)
Adapter : ATI Radeon HD 5400 Series (160SP 650MHz, 499.4MB 2x667MHz)

Storage Devices
WDC WD5002AALX-32Z3A0 (500.1GB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 32MB Cache) : 466GB (C:)
Seagate ST32000542AS (2TB, SATA300, 3.5", 5900rpm, NCQ) : 2TB (H:)
SanDisk Cruzer 8GB (USB) : 7GB (G:)
ATAPI iHAS122 8 (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (D:)

Logical Storage Devices
System Reserved : 100MB (NTFS)
Archives (H:) : 2TB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST32000542AS (2TB, SATA300, 3.5", 5900rpm, NCQ)
Removable Drive (G:) : 7GB (FAT32) @ SanDisk Cruzer 8GB (USB)Pendrive for moving the Sandra report only
Hard Disk (C:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD5002AALX-32Z3A0 (500.1GB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 32MB Cache)
Optical Drive (D:) : N/A @ ATAPI iHAS122 8 (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : ASUS Cougar Point LPC Controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : T0 C3-33
Audio Device : ASUS Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Codec : Realtek Semiconductor 0892h
Audio Device : PC Partner Manhattan HDMI Audio [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series]
Audio Codec : ATI (AMD) AA01h
Disk Controller : ASUS Cougar Point 6 port SATA AHCI Controller
Disk Controller : ASUS 9172h
USB Controller 1 : ASUS Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #2
USB Controller 2 : ASUS Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #1
USB Controller 3 : ASUS uPD720200 USB 3.0 Controller
USB Controller 4 : ASUS uPD720200 USB 3.0 Controller
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : SIIG XIO2200(A) IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)on-board VIA firewire is disabled as it doesn't work with the 003
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel 801xx/63xx SMBus

Printers and Faxes
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Fax : Microsoft Shared Fax Driver (200x200)

Peripherals
Media Player : SanDisk Cruzer (7.46GB)Pendrive for moving the Sandra report only

Network Services
Network Adapter : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller

Power Management
Mains (AC) Line Status : On-Line

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.01.7600
Platform Compliance : x64

Windows Experience Index
Current System : 4.6

philip888
02-29-2012, 10:12 AM
I just did a build for a friend. Gigabyte EX58a-ud3r i7 950.

The CPU Cooler sux we all know that. But I did not realize how bad because I have never used one of the i7 coolers in my own builds.

I have Noctua NH-D14 which is great but is a bit over kill for this persons build. Because I will not be over-clocking it.

Can I get some suggestions on a decent CPU cooler?

Thanks

albee1952
02-29-2012, 10:32 AM
I just did a build for a friend. Gigabyte EX58a-ud3r i7 950.

The CPU Cooler sux we all know that. But I did not realize how bad because I have never used one of the i7 coolers in my own builds.

I have Noctua NH-D14 which is great but is a bit over kill for this persons build. Because I will not be over-clocking it.

Can I get some suggestions on a decent CPU cooler?

Thanks

The stock cooler worked fine for me:rolleyes:. I went with a Corsair H60 liquid cooler for the extra quiet:D

philip888
02-29-2012, 10:49 AM
The stock cooler worked fine for me:rolleyes:. I went with a Corsair H60 liquid cooler for the extra quiet:D

The stock cooler idles around 60c which is a bit high for me.

Thanks for the suggestion.

jello
03-01-2012, 07:45 AM
Got my approved Siig firewire, but it gave me blue screen on shutdown almost every time (it also freezed protools, and the whole machine, so I needed to do a hard boot).

The good news is that theasus p9x79 ws onboard firewire works fine, I have only tested it a few days - will report back if it crashes down on me.

mesaone
03-01-2012, 02:34 PM
The stock cooler worked fine for me:rolleyes:. I went with a Corsair H60 liquid cooler for the extra quiet:D

I have a similar cooler, in fact it may be identical (but with a different brand name stamped on it)... Antec KUHLER 620. I'm not all that impressed with it.

It does keep my idle temps in between 30 and 38 celsius, depending on ambient temperature. Under 100% load with Prime95 the temps climb to 70 with hyperthreading on, 60 with HT off. That's really good. EDIT: forgot to mention that my processor is an i7 960, quad core slightly overclocked. 70 degrees might sound like a lot but that's 10 degrees under what a stock cooler would do when NOT overclocked, so I figure I'm running around 17 degrees under what it would normally be. The Bloomfield and Gulftown processors are notorious for running hot, so in hindsight I should have gotten a 920 or waited until the 2600K came down in price.

My problem with it is that the fan on the radiator is fairly loud. Even after I swapped it for a "noiseless" fan recommended by the overclock.net crowd. I think the Noctua and Zalman air coolers perform as well as the liquid cooler I have, but they are quieter because the fan(s) are inside the case as opposed to against the cage.

TL;DR Go with an air cooler by Zalman or Noctua

Got my approved Siig firewire, but it gave me blue screen on shutdown almost every time (it also freezed protools, and the whole machine, so I needed to do a hard boot).

did you try switching to a legacy driver in windows? That fixed my connection problems with my FW card

Infiltrator
03-03-2012, 10:39 AM
I have no idea where to begin on this matter. As i did not realize this nonsense still existed as soon as windows 7 came out. Ive been out of the loop.

Should I even go i7 or should i just go i5?

Looking to spend no more than 800. In addition to my good tower case. which i already have.

albee1952
03-03-2012, 11:35 AM
I have no idea where to begin on this matter. As i did not realize this nonsense still existed as soon as windows 7 came out. Ive been out of the loop.

Should I even go i7 or should i just go i5?

Looking to spend no more than 800. In addition to my good tower case. which i already have.
i7 would be my recommendation. The hyperthreading doubles the useable cores in PT. On a tight budget, you might consider the "older" X58 and socket 1366 cpu's(950 and up) as they have come down in price, but still deliver plenty of grunt:D

Infiltrator
03-03-2012, 07:45 PM
Asus P8P67 I guess. I need to see if those are going to be compatible processors to the board. But its socket 1155. some guy on this motherboard and i5 aint doing so well.

this is definetly a nasty pursuit with too many variables.

filosofem
03-04-2012, 12:01 PM
Asus P8P67 I guess. I need to see if those are going to be compatible processors to the board. But its socket 1155. some guy on this motherboard and i5 aint doing so well.

this is definitely a nasty pursuit with too many variables.
Agreed. Dismiss LGA 1155 and supported Chipsets. The best solution for Pro Tools is LGA 1366 or LGA 2011.

jello
03-04-2012, 02:40 PM
did you try switching to a legacy driver in windows? That fixed my connection problems with my FW card


Thanks mesaone, The driver switch worked great:-)

albee1952
03-04-2012, 07:53 PM
Asus P8P67 I guess. I need to see if those are going to be compatible processors to the board. But its socket 1155. some guy on this motherboard and i5 aint doing so well.

this is definetly a nasty pursuit with too many variables.

That would be me. Asus P8P67 with i5 2500k and 16GB of compatible RAM. The system works, but I MUST use LLM and set the buffer to 1024 to do any recording. My i7 920 and 950 rigs will roll plenty of tracks at the 64 buffer. Maybe if I can get expert help on BIOS settings, I could turn this rig around, but for now, its in the closet:cool:

Transputer
03-06-2012, 12:43 PM
You may well have seen this thread albee1952,

http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12432

been wondering what firmware your asus board might be on, though if I remember you have tried other boards.

Best

albee1952
03-06-2012, 12:53 PM
You may well have seen this thread albee1952,

http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12432

been wondering what firmware your asus board might be on, though if I remember you have tried other boards.

Best
Interesting. In any case, I update the BIOS when I built. I'm not quite sure how to address or update firmware on the mobo. I'll give that link a good read tonight when I have a clear head(or is that an EMPTY head):p

Followup...must be empty head. I read over that page and came away more confused than enlightened.........

RockItMan.
03-07-2012, 06:04 PM
I'm looking for some advise. I was running a Digi 001 le v6.4 on a Asus P5k Deluxe motherboard with an Intel Q6600 quad 4 processor running windows XP Sp3, that I built myself. Unfortunately today it won't post. I've narrowed it down to either the mobo or processor. You can buy these on ebay, but they cost more than the newer i3, i5, or i7 combo's. I've read of problems with the sandy bridge with pci cards. Some say yes others say no. Any suggestions on which direction I should go? It would be greatly appreciated. I posted this here because this is my workhorse computer and was running rock solid. More Power = Good. Pci Card Problems = Bad. Thank You. If I should start my own thread please tell me.

filosofem
03-07-2012, 07:51 PM
Hey rockitman, does X58 or X79 take your fancy? Personally either one of those is the better solution.

RockItMan.
03-07-2012, 08:11 PM
Thanks Filosofem for your quick reply,
I just posted on another forum where I was told by a builder that had success with an asus P8Q67-M, i5-2500 CPU, and corsair dd3 memory. It was running a more intensive pci card and working well. It just that the P5k/Q6600/LEv6.4/Digi001/WinXp combo was running rock solid. If you have more info you would like to share on a x58 or x59 solution I'm all ears.

filosofem
03-07-2012, 09:20 PM
i5-2500 CPU
Stay clear. That user might have a successful rig but that would be one of ten that does. Avid does not recommended on-board nor on-die GPU which most Sandy Bridge (SNB) processors do. X58 Chipset is an older LGA 1366 socket but a proven performer with Pro Tools. A lot of custom users run X58. X79 is the new kid on the block LGA 2011 socket but out performs X58 however so does the price.

ASUS P6T WS
LGA 1366 Core i7 9xx
Triple Channel DDR3 1333 Non-ECC

RockItMan.
03-07-2012, 10:29 PM
FiloSoFem,

Thank You so much for this info! Do you feel that the digi001 will still be rock solid under these new architectures?

chrisdee
03-08-2012, 06:23 PM
Stay clear. That user might have a successful rig but that would be one of ten that does. Avid does not recommended on-board nor on-die GPU which most Sandy Bridge (SNB) processors do. X58 Chipset is an older LGA 1366 socket but a proven performer with Pro Tools. A lot of custom users run X58. X79 is the new kid on the block LGA 2011 socket but out performs X58 however so does the price.

ASUS P6T WS
LGA 1366 Core i7 9xx
Triple Channel DDR3 1333 Non-ECC

So one should stay clear of sandy bridge ?

I need more power for my VIs.
Wonder what 6 cores work with PT10 ?


What about the new 8 core xenon server cpu's, no go ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117272

filosofem
03-08-2012, 08:57 PM
Do you feel that the digi001 will still be rock solid under these new architectures?
Pro Tools 7 and higher have run on X58 for a number of years. Pro Tools 6.4 should not make any difference.

filosofem
03-08-2012, 09:01 PM
So one should stay clear of sandy bridge?
Hey Chrisdee, let me clarify, SNB with on-die GPU. That's Desktop Core i7-2700K and below.