Getting Audio from Yamaha M7CL-48 into ProTools LE?

[fmckinnon]

Hey -

We're getting a Yamaha M7CL-48 digital console for FOH at our church. There are a number of digital I/O boxes available from Yamaha (ie. ADAT 16-channel IO), etc ... we have two slots left on the Yamaha, so we can potentially route 32 channels OUT of the I/O cards of the Yamaha ...

But I don't know how to get 32 simlutaneous digital tracks INTO ProTools - we have an Apple G5 we were doing to use at FOH to do some multi-tracking w/ ProTools, but all we have is a 002 and LE system.


Is there any way/configuration to accept 32 tracks digitally from the M7CL (and what config?), and what is required to get these INTO ProTools?

Thanks in advance,
Fred

[albee1952]

You cannot get 32 tracks into any version of Protools LE. You could get 8 channels into the 002 via an ADAT card, If the M7 has a SPDIF out, that can send 2 more channels, but the last 8 will have to go in via analog. Protools LE can not recieve more than 18 inputs per pass. You would probably be better off (if you need more than 18 inputs) going with Cubase and some Motu interfaces or maybe pile up some Firepods.

[cabuford]

I've had great success using an Alesis HD24 to record, then pulling the drive caddy and transferring to Protools via the Firepod interface. Only issue is one is 24 tracks, and buying a second one for 8 tracks seems a little overkill.

[kooz]

Yup, this is the way to go. To make things super solid and sexy, I'd add an external house clock like a Mytek or Apogee Big Ben to clock console/interfaces from.

For mixdown, you'll likely need to have either the MP or DV toolkit: at 32 tracks, you're at maximum voice count for LE.

[kooz]

Right, however since this is also a FOH console, I'm gonna guess that the OP will have enough on his plate mixing the services: if this console is any indication, the size of worship team/choir/band/orchestra could be considerable...and consider this: he may also be doing monitors from FOH as well! Direct out routing of the inputs via the cards to the interface for later mixdown in post is the way to go...unless submixing already factors into the equation. (as you might be able to tell, I'm a DCA/VCA guy)

[kooz]

Exactly, a split to another dedicated recording set-up would be the best (along with another operator), but the original question was how to get 32 channels of lightpipe out of the console into PT.
Having been forced to do this myself (too many times to count, unfortunately), I realize that some submixing will be required. But it's not often in a worship service that all 48 console inputs are in use simultaneously, so my thinking is that some careful output routing/track assignment will allow the operator to hit record, and then attend to the job of mixing the service...until they have to remix it from tracks.
Would you agree?

[kooz]

No, I didn't. I concurred w/ you that 2 ADAT cards for the console, a lightbridge into Boom recorder was the way to go. Follow the thread, Chris. Our conversation has included diversions into submixing and type of recording (I call the style proposed "diaper recording": catch it all in one place and wrap it all up and throw it out after the fact), but I never mentioned any of the other products you just did.
Perhaps we can agree that there may be some added costs above the purchase of the console to achieve whatever the goal is in this audio system. (interesting you have assumed they already have an external ADAT interface as well as a SPDIF interface for 18 track capture direct to PT...I don't seem to recall one in the OP). If they're spending that much on a new console, a few more kilobux isn't a big stretch, especially if the congregation (and/or the board/committees) is happy with the result.
I suppose a little bit of background from fmckinnon about what the ultimate goal is, or what they're trying to accomplish would help. It's too bad that they haven't jumped in on our conversation to offer more perspective. Does he really need to get a 32 track capture, or will the mix from the console into 2 of the inputs on the oo2 do the trick? Or possibly somewhere in between?

[gjohung]

Can some one summarize in laymen's language what I really need.

We have
1) M7CL
2) Digi 002
3) Profire 2626

What does Profire light bridge do? Do I need MY16AT? In addition to light brigge - does this add 16 more "aux" out via firewir

[roderickm]

If this thread is being revived, allow me to add another alternative that works well for me:

M7CL with Dante MY16-AUD cards, networked to DAW with Dante's Virtual Soundcard (license included with MY16-AUD card). With two Dante cards, I move 32 tracks over ethernet to a Mac running Logic. Logic sees the audio I/O devices created by the virtual soundcard driver. No firewire, no lightpipe, no hassles.

I take direct outs from the channels I want and route them to the card slot/channel. I set up two scenes that focus exclusively on input routing, one with all the live inputs, and one that pulls the Dante audio back to the same channel from which they are recorded. Now I can flip from record to playback with a simple scene recall and run a virtual soundcheck.

Works beautifully.

[albee1952]

With the release of PT9 and the new feature of 32 inputs, get lightpipe output cards for the M7 and patch them into an M-Audio Light Bridge or Presonus Firestudio Lightpipe.