does eleven rack make LE out of the box ?

[Litemup]

unless Russ can show me some tricks for vocals on this then i have no use for it. But avid has mad me a proud fan boy today now i can tell those logic heads to s*ck it. and hopefully this is just the beginning
does the dsp make it out the box and can u use it with 003 or will they push the command8 (witch its time for a new one)
by the way i would love to hear about the eleven rack

[sunburst79]

I'm reading your question as being "Does Eleven Rack function as a Pro Tools LE interface and come with a copy of PTLE"

From what I read of the manual, yes

The DSP stays in the box although you could theoretically run tracks out to the interface and then re record them using the effects and models.

You can use it with the 003 but you will need to cable it in since the USB cable will only transfer data when both units are active.

[DigiTechSupt]

Originally Posted by sunburst79

I'm reading your question as being "Does Eleven Rack function as a Pro Tools LE interface and come with a copy of PTLE"


From what I read of the manual, yes

That is correct.

You can also run any input, including the Mic, through the Rig effects.

You can use it with a 003 just like you would with any other hardware effect device, either as a hardware IO or a send/return, and control it using the Eleven window in Pro Tools.

[Litemup]

cool thanks for the response
now if we can get russ to show some vocal tricks on this thing
i ll get this instead of the uad with the fatso plug.

[spkguitar]

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

You can use it with a 003 just like you would with any other hardware effect device, either as a hardware IO or a send/return, and control it using the Eleven window in Pro Tools.

So what you are saying is, if you use it with 002/003 products, it needs to be treated like an I/O expansion? (like a S/PDIF preamp?)

The two units cannot be used as I/O in PT at the same time?

If so, forgive me but, that sucks.

[DigiTechSupt]

Originally Posted by spkguitar

So what you are saying is, if you use it with 002/003 products, it needs to be treated like an I/O expansion? (like a S/PDIF preamp?)

The two units cannot be used as I/O in PT at the same time?

If so, forgive me but, that sucks.

We knew this would be an issue with some - as I mentioned in a different thread, the reason it wasn't implemented this way is that the whole mechanism for how PT detects interfaces would need to be reworked and which would require a significant amount of engineering time and would have a massive impact on all current projects, causing delays - something we cannot afford right now. We felt that engineering time was better spent on other projects and to keep things on schedule.

[flommer]

Can you use the mic input through the effects loop, to insert a compressor or what have you?

BTW inserts should be included in the 004 or give the ability for full bypass of the pres...

[Carl Kolchak]

I'm really not too sure what a lot of the grumbling is about in regard to this product.

Perhaps there is a degree of misunderstanding of what this product actually is (and I hope I'm not about to compound that).

This is basically a guitar amp & speaker cabinet (plus stomp boxes), but for simplicities sake lets look at it as a typical piece of studio outboard equipment - like a compressor.

This particular piece of outboard equipment has the unique advantage of being remotely controlled from within Pro Tools via its USB connection - very much like the way the Digi Pre interfaces with PT HD.

That's basically it.

Ah but wait, there's more :

As an added bonus, this particular piece of outboard equipment can be used as a PT LE interface, allowing you to stream the audio directly to your hard drive instead of having to use your existing I/O converters.

That's about the size of it as far as I can tell, and that seems like a hell of a good deal to me, for what it is and what it's supposed to be.

There will be other products to come.

This just may not be the particular product people were expecting / hoping for at this time, but I think once they get their head around what it actually is, and once it becomes clear what the future hardware offering from Digi are, people are really going to love the Eleven Rack.

[sunburst79]

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

We knew this would be an issue with some - as I mentioned in a different thread, the reason it wasn't implemented this way is that the whole mechanism for how PT detects interfaces would need to be reworked and which would require a significant amount of engineering time and would have a massive impact on all current projects, causing delays - something we cannot afford right now. We felt that engineering time was better spent on other projects and to keep things on schedule.

I would just like to say I agree with SPK! unfortunately my money is already spent.

A step by step guide on how to best integrate this with a 003, 002 or HD system and maximize/retain the functionality is needed and the users guides should be revised to reflect this. I have spare I/O-I just want to get it connected in a fashion that leaves me with the most flexibility and the most XLRs.

I have.

Both a 002/003
DigimaxD8 Via ADAT.
The SPDIF on the 002 and 003 is not currently being used for anything.

Correct me if I'm wrong.....Since the USB connection is data only I'm also going to need to waste a pair of line outs to get PTs audio out of the interface to the 11R for monitoring purposes. How do I set the SPDIF up to send the effected stereo signal to Pro Tools? How do I configure the 11R to pass the PT's audio to the headphones. I presumably will need to mirror the mains or monitors on the 003 to the SPDIF on the 002/003.

Am I correct in assuming that SPDIF will meet the needs for transferring the Effected Signal from the 11R to the 002/003 and that the 003 will pass the sessions audio to the 11R via SPDIF by mirroring the monitors. I never use SPDIF so correct me if I'm thinking incorrectly here.

Assuming that works then all we need to do is get the original (clean guitar) signal from 11R to the 002/003. I'm assuming the "Output to Amp2" 1/4 jack on the back of the 11R is the best way to do this? And that this should be connected to any line input from 5-8? (they shoulda/woulda mirrored "Output to Amp1" to the rear panel to make cabling easier for semi permanent installations)

Any reason to connect a MIDI cable? I'm not seeing any reason to since presumably any MIDI data will be on the USB connection.

Am I missing anything here? What functionality will be lost by using the unit wired in Vs using it as a standalone interface. I suspect that a lot of HD owners would like this clarified also.

I want to like this thing, I want to keep it if it will work as advertised with my current PTLE interface.

I'm sure I'm not the only one with these questions and they will need a addendum to the manual on how to connect this to a exsisting PT rig.

Should I be using the stereo line inputs on the back of the 11R instead of SPDIF? Should I be using the stereo XLR outputs on the 11R instead of SPDIF?

How would a user connect one of these all analog coonnections, AES/ABU or SPDIF go about it? These questions need to be answered.

[Shan]

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

We knew this would be an issue with some - as I mentioned in a different thread, the reason it wasn't implemented this way is that the whole mechanism for how PT detects interfaces would need to be reworked and which would require a significant amount of engineering time and would have a massive impact on all current projects, causing delays - something we cannot afford right now. We felt that engineering time was better spent on other projects and to keep things on schedule.

Drop the 7 OS support down to 2 for starters. That will free up a lot of resources and time right there alone. It's not like we're not use to long delays. *cough*ADC*cough*...to name a very few.

Shane