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Old 01-24-2015, 05:22 AM
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And what will various governments say about that? David Cameron (UK PM) wants to be able to read everyone's messages and such going over the net. Perhaps Avid has learned how to do solid encryption ala Apple with the new iPhone or Blackberry?
This isn't about governments. It's about any kind of attacker who is interested in the content for whatever reason. If only to protect the data from programming errors and 0-day-exploits.

But since Cameron wants to make encryption illegal and force companies to enable back doors and the FBI is calling for a "magic golden key" for agencies I wonder what makes them think those backdoors won't be discovered by all sorts of other attackers.

Anyway my point was that nowadays a system with solid end-to-end encryption is very important. Especially if they want us to upload content for "The Interview II" or the next Star Wars film. ;-)

I'm sure we will learn soon and it's too early at this point.

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Old 01-24-2015, 07:26 AM
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The security concern is legitimate. I was working for a company about a year and a half ago (not large, but 5 times the market cap of Avid) that used cloud based servers. In short, the company we were renting server space from had an employee that had a "bad day" and intentionally deleted nearly all of our files in less than an hour before he was discovered. Who would have ever thought something like that could happen? This wasn't hacking from the outside.

I won't go into the details of how we recovered over the next 4 days but it was very, very difficult. (Think about accounts receivable when you do 1800 transactions per day electronically.)

Point is, while my situation wasn't exactly the same, security of something you don't personally manage can be a real concern.

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What's the point of a cloud that's not connected to the internet 24/7?
How will your collaborators access the data when they need it?

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Peer to peer, which is a better way to directly share/exchange content, unlike the server/client architecture.

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Old 01-24-2015, 12:55 PM
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In the demo that I saw of the cloud collaboration, the Protools Cloud Collaboration was peer to peer. Media Composer, on the other hand HAS to use their Media Play (I guess they are calling it AirSpeed now) and ISIS systems. The remote units only get a data feed and downgraded audio/video feed because of the bandwidth requirements.

The Protools collaboration was strictly peer to peer. Though they were not able to define what level of broadband internet bandwidth would be required, or even if it would work on an asynchronous connection (as most cable and DSL modems are).
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:24 PM
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Can I still store my sessions on my hard drive in PT12?

I am not interested about the cloud thing.
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:35 PM
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Can I still store my sessions on my hard drive in PT12?

I am not interested about the cloud thing.
I'm sure that PT12 stores sessions on the hard drive in the same way that every other version of PT has.
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I'm sure that PT12 stores sessions on the hard drive in the same way that every other version of PT has.
Of course it will store sessions as usual!

The Cloud is for peer to peer colaboration and storage on a clous is optional and you will get X amount of GB free and be able to pay for GB when needed but as far as saving sessions it will be the same as it is now. Anything else would be suicide for Avid.

Imagine if you are out on the road and no internet connection, how would you access your sessions then? It will be optional to use the cloud storage.

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Old 01-25-2015, 06:04 PM
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Who would have thought that could happen? Me, for one. I have never understood the fascination with "the cloud". In addition to the grave security concerns that you mentioned, the dependence on an internet connection is also disconcerting. It's a significant risk to make your company dependent on an internet provider. And there is, not just the internet connection itself, but how fast it is. I was in IT for 25 years. People jump on the latest buzzword technology, often without thinking of the long-term ramifications.

As an aside, many of the same concerns should be applied to offshore development. Do you really want your most precious business knowledge residing on servers on the other side of the world? Very short-sighted IMO.

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The security concern is legitimate. I was working for a company about a year and a half ago (not large, but 5 times the market cap of Avid) that used cloud based servers. In short, the company we were renting server space from had an employee that had a "bad day" and intentionally deleted nearly all of our files in less than an hour before he was discovered. Who would have ever thought something like that could happen? This wasn't hacking from the outside.

I won't go into the details of how we recovered over the next 4 days but it was very, very difficult. (Think about accounts receivable when you do 1800 transactions per day electronically.)

Point is, while my situation wasn't exactly the same, security of something you don't personally manage can be a real concern.

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Old 01-25-2015, 06:23 PM
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It's a significant risk to make your company dependent on an internet provider.
We are completely dependent. I wouldn't be able to operate for more than a day. Raise your hand if any of you reading this sent your work via FedEx in the last year.
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Old 01-25-2015, 06:46 PM
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We are completely dependent. I wouldn't be able to operate for more than a day. Raise your hand if any of you reading this sent your work via FedEx in the last year.
or sent a real letter over an email
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