HD Native low latency monitoring

[CamM]

Anyone understanding how this works?

As far as I can make out, it's the same as a F/W interface with LE, except you can choose which outputs to use as the low latency ones, rather than it only ever being 1&2...?

And if this is the case (someone please tell me I'm being a tit and I'm completely wrong), how would one give a singer reverb in their headphones?

Also, what does this mean:

"With HD OMNI, Delay Compensation is not supported on Monitor output paths. Delay Compensation is only supported on physical output paths (those not assigned for the Monitor path)."

?

Ta

[farhadkd]

Zigactly the same question I wanted to ask while perusing the manual.

Anyone?

[tamasdragon]

Yes, low-latency monitoring work as it is working on le.
You can still use reverb (for example) in the cue mix, just use the fx on an aux input, that's it. (same input on aux)

[CamM]

Originally Posted by tamasdragon

Yes, low-latency monitoring work as it is working on le.
You can still use reverb (for example) in the cue mix, just use the fx on an aux input, that's it. (same input on aux)

You can't do this in LE though, and I don't see how it'll work here - If I'm, for example, listening to the mix on 1&2, and want to send the artist headphone mix out 3&4, I set output 3&4 to low latency monitoring mode and they can hear themselves delay free, but with no plugins - this applies to the aux;s as well on LE.

so... What's the deal? Unless avid have snuck some basic TDM into the new i/o's (which I thought they would, what with mbox's now being able to put zero latency reverb in a singers headphones), are we stuffed still?

[O.G. Killa]

Originally Posted by CamM

You can't do this in LE though, and I don't see how it'll work here - If I'm, for example, listening to the mix on 1&2, and want to send the artist headphone mix out 3&4, I set output 3&4 to low latency monitoring mode and they can hear themselves delay free, but with no plugins - this applies to the aux;s as well on LE.

so... What's the deal? Unless avid have snuck some basic TDM into the new i/o's (which I thought they would, what with mbox's now being able to put zero latency reverb in a singers headphones), are we stuffed still?

As I understand it, Create an audio track for the singer. Send it to Mon 1&2 and to Output 3-4 (for headphones). Set 3-4 to low latency. next, create an aux. Send the audio channel to it using a bus, put effects on it (verb), and assign it to Output 3-4. Singer will now have low latency of their track plus reverb in their headphones.

[digidesigner]

Originally Posted by O.G. Killa

As I understand it, Create an audio track for the singer. Send it to Mon 1&2 and to Output 3-4 (for headphones). Set 3-4 to low latency. next, create an aux. Send the audio channel to it using a bus, put effects on it (verb), and assign it to Output 3-4. Singer will now have low latency of their track plus reverb in their headphones.

Probably not, cause "Only tracks with input from an audio interface (not an internal mix bus) use Low Latency Monitor- ing." < From HD Native User Guide

[CamM]

Originally Posted by O.G. Killa

As I understand it, Create an audio track for the singer. Send it to Mon 1&2 and to Output 3-4 (for headphones). Set 3-4 to low latency. next, create an aux. Send the audio channel to it using a bus, put effects on it (verb), and assign it to Output 3-4. Singer will now have low latency of their track plus reverb in their headphones.

If it works like that then great, but I suspect because the aux is still recieving an input, and because it's outputting on the low latency channel, all plug-ins will be disabled. I've spent days of my life trying to get this happening on LE, but it just doesn't.

That said, avid will have a fix - they have to - it's completely unprofessional and unworkable to not be able to give a singer reverb. Whether it'll be in the new software release (hd native guide says 8.5 on it...) which allows one to select which individual tracks it wants to reflect back out, or I'm just missing something (hopefully) I don't know. There's certainly no reason why it shouldn't work - this is exactly how I work in Nuendo - direct monitoring in rme's software, and a fully wet signal sent out've nuendo - it's just a clunky way of working. Please give me a button avid. On the channel.

Or tell me the shut-up because I haven't read the release properly

[holyspicoli]

Originally Posted by tamasdragon

Yes, low-latency monitoring work as it is working on le.
You can still use reverb (for example) in the cue mix, just use the fx on an aux input, that's it. (same input on aux)

tamasdragon, how have you actually gotten this to work in LE? It doesn't. After countless tests I've accepted the fact that in LE, a singer can't hear their Low Latency input along with effects. It's one or the other. He/she CAN hear a latent input with effects, even in Low Latency mode. But it's latent, hence defeating the purpose.

[Shan]

Originally Posted by CamM

You can't do this in LE though, and I don't see how it'll work here - If I'm, for example, listening to the mix on 1&2, and want to send the artist headphone mix out 3&4, I set output 3&4 to low latency monitoring mode and they can hear themselves delay free, but with no plugins - this applies to the aux;s as well on LE.

so... What's the deal? Unless avid have snuck some basic TDM into the new i/o's (which I thought they would, what with mbox's now being able to put zero latency reverb in a singers headphones), are we stuffed still?

Originally Posted by holyspicoli

tamasdragon, how have you actually gotten this to work in LE? It doesn't. After countless tests I've accepted the fact that in LE, a singer can't hear their Low Latency input along with effects. It's one or the other. He/she CAN hear a latent input with effects, even in Low Latency mode. But it's latent, hence defeating the purpose.

Do this routing when using LLM in LE, or just record at a buffer of 32/64. More info found here and here.

Shane

[holyspicoli]

Originally Posted by Shan

Do this routing when using LLM in LE, or just record at a buffer of 32/64. More info found here and here.

Shane

Holy crap...is that the one thing I never tried?? Well assuming it works, thank you!