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Here's One for all the respondents - what are you using for a MIDI controller? I started another thread here where I'm contemplating either a Studiologic SL88 Grand or the Studio version. The Grand has progressive action which is supposed to mimic a real piano and the Studio has uniform weighting across all 88 keys. I'm coming from a synth action keyboard (my ancient Yamaha Motif 7) so for years that's the action type I'm used to. I've also played real pianos through the years but not as much the last couple of decades. I'm also used to the action of a real physical Steinway B. Been watching some YouTube vids on both and am conflicting opinions/views on the action of both keyboards. They're both Fatar action (Fatar owns Studiologic).


Any thoughts on the two selections? Not doing a lot of serious classical type piano work but more studio oriented.
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Here's One for all the respondents - what are you using for a MIDI controller? ...
I'm using a M-Audio Hammer 88 in my studio. (I am not a keyboard player). It's no-frills, nice touch/hammer action, and solid build quality. Plus I have it on a super-solid stand/table. Even classical pianists seem to like the setup!!!
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what are you using for a MIDI controller?
I'm using an old M-Audio Keystation Pro 88 (I have 2 - 1 for parts!) I'm not really a keyboardist either but I do play some.
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I'm using an old M-Audio Keystation Pro 88 (I have 2 - 1 for parts!) I'm not really a keyboardist either but I do play some.
Weren't those known for being mechanically noisy?
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Weren't those known for being mechanically noisy?
So? Real acoustic piano is also mechanically noisy, and some plugins such as Ivory even have special added pedal noise to make it more real.
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So? Real acoustic piano is also mechanically noisy, and some plugins such as Ivory even have special added pedal noise to make it more real.
I dial back all the pedal/key noises and such in any piano vi. And what if you're using that same controller for other MIDI work? Those Keystations were known for a really annoying mechanical noise which was/is completely different than what a piano makes.
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Maybe. But if action is the king, mechanical weighted keys are the thing.

In my experience however, those who require mechanical action are just as minority as those who are sensitive enough to complain about latency of 64 buffer.
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Maybe. But if action is the king, mechanical weighted keys are the thing.

In my experience however, those who require mechanical action are just as minority as those who are sensitive enough to complain about latency of 64 buffer.
I don't require a mechanical weighted keys action. What I'd really like is an 88 key synth action keyboard. I've gotten quite good over the years in fudging a synth action keybed to do quite good piano music.
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I've gotten quite good over the years in fudging a synth action keybed to do quite good piano music.
As has my pianist friend, who does half of his income playing Ivory with whatever 88/61/49 key synth action keyboard he has available.
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Looking for a new piano VI. I already have a couple of the NI Kontakt ones, the Model D and Austrian Grands for UVI Falcon. Want a decent Steinway D and B; anything else would be gravy. I want to stay away from any Kontakt-based libs so that leaves out the Galaxy Instruments wares. Also because I'm on the hairy edge of working with UVI Falcon and my ancient OSX 10.13.6 the VI Labs stuff is a low priority (and they have a D but no B). Further I'd like to stay with one developer if possible. That leaves the stuff from Synthogy (Ivory) which are sample based and Modarrt (Pianoteq) which are modeled.


I like demos as much as possible and Ivory doesn't do that. Pianoteq does so I'm working with that. That being said what do people here like? Any problems with either? Are there other piano vi's out there I'm missing?
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