Beta update?

[JFreak]

Using beta is not mandatory. It is optional for someone like me who likes to test it before prime time.

[smurfyou]

Yes this was a marketing decision. Don’t expect it to become a norm.

I do believe they need to expand their actual beta testers however. Every release in the last few years has been problematic in some way that should have been uncovered with proper testing.

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by smurfyou

I do believe they need to expand their actual beta testers however.

Maybe yes or no. Every new tester is a possible leaker, and not all beta testers give useful information back. I should know, was beta testing PT 7-10.

[moogboy100]

Originally Posted by Eric Lambert

There must be new betas made available as substantial bugs are ironed out, so that testing can move forward. For Avid not to do that would be odd.

What are the substantial bugs (as they pertain to the beta AS version and not PR as a whole)?

It's not an actual Beta program we are in with this version. Instead AVID just want us to know the version we got is still in Beta, which explains its incomplete feature set compared to Rosetta mode. Like others have said, we'll get a full version only in a couple months most likely.

[Eric Lambert]

Originally Posted by dominicperry

From the original announcement:

"What doesn’t work in the public beta version?

AIR plugins and instruments currently bundled with Pro Tools
Not all third-party plugins are supported yet—see here for the supported list
Cloud Collaboration and Projects
ICON, C24, and Command 8 control surfaces will not be supported
X-Form Audio Suite and algorithm in Elastic Audio
ReWire support
MP3 Export (Bounce and Export Clips as Files)
AAC Import
Score Editor
Chord Extraction
Full qualification on all systems/configurations"

I missed that. Quite a list, but none should be terribly difficult to update. 3rd party plugins aren't Avid's responsibility, of course.

[smurfyou]

Originally Posted by JFreak

Maybe yes or no. Every new tester is a possible leaker, and not all beta testers give useful information back. I should know, was beta testing PT 7-10.

Yes I’m familiar, I’ve been a tester in the past although not for Avid.

Stupid things like mp3 import breaking every other version. MIDI editing, other numerous issues that are uncovered the first day of release. We don’t have privilege of knowing if these are acknowledged bugs ahead of the release. Maybe some are and they decide not to delay release, who knows.

I’m not a big fan of the current dot release schedule. It hasn’t sped up development as promised and it’s been much more unstable than the past. Commercial users are already hesitant to update until it’s proven stable and these releases have exacerbated that.

[JFreak]

I would be fine with quarterly releases (.03/.06/.09/.12) but there is always something...

[Eric Lambert]

Originally Posted by smurfyou

Yes I’m familiar, I’ve been a tester in the past although not for Avid.

Stupid things like mp3 import breaking every other version. MIDI editing, other numerous issues that are uncovered the first day of release. We don’t have privilege of knowing if these are acknowledged bugs ahead of the release. Maybe some are and they decide not to delay release, who knows.

I’m not a big fan of the current dot release schedule. It hasn’t sped up development as promised and it’s been much more unstable than the past. Commercial users are already hesitant to update until it’s proven stable and these releases have exacerbated that.

2022.10 and .12 have been two of the more stable versions of PT that I've used and I've been onboard since V3. The various people in my company are reporting the same. This is not to say that it's perfect (it is certainly not that) but relative to other releases it's not crashing and allowing us to get work done.

[mattrixx]

I have to concur. This version has been very stable.

[capt kirk]

I will be happily waiting , using my 12 year old imac to earn a living before sticking my neck out and buying a COMPLETELY finished and solid version that works on a M2 mini running a normal silicon version.........i got forever....the ONLY reason im upgrading is for the Soundminer /sampler record update, otherwise id gladly stay on my crash free rock solid machine....