Pro Tools | Control vs. Neyrinck V-control pro

[Barry Johns]

Originally Posted by dr_daw

Where do you get hung up? Did you open Eucon Preferences in System preferences and select 'Wifi'? Is Eucon turned on in PT's? Is the app open?

I figured it out. The only thing that bothers me, but I guess I understand it, is you can't use this along with my ProControl. Its either or.

[YYR123]

Originally Posted by Barry Johns

The only thing that bothers me, but I guess I understand it, is you can't use this along with my ProControl. Its either or.

That's an easy choice then

[LDS]

Originally Posted by funktedup

It works fine on my mabook Pt 10, and 11, just had to install the new eucon software, also the soft keys work as well programing my own, really need more pages with large icons to really get the most out of it. No joy wheel other location markers pretty basic compared to V control though. also when your not in pro tools ie I use soundminer you lose control of pro tools, unlike V control you can still use the app completely, that's a bad design as I'm in an out of apps but stil, need control. Let's see what they do next.


Osx mountain lion 2012 Macbook Pro
16 gig ram
Ipad air

I am not quite sure I follow.

Are you saying that you want the Avid Control app to also control other DAW programs? It can do that. EUCON will also mimic HUI control - just follow the instructions listed here:

http://connect.euphonix.com/document..._Setup_3.0.pdf

EUCON is an incredibly flexible thing. Far more than previous protocols created by Avid.

As an example - I just opened an Ableton Live session followed by a protools session on the same computer. This means they aren't rewired together, I have two different sessions open. My artist series controllers and the iPad Control application will focus on whatever application I am working it. Switching between applications will switch the control surfaces and control because mackie control or eucon - and ableton live and protools.

If you want to lock the control surfaces to a specific DAW, just bring the DAW to the front, open the eucon control panel and click the 'assign' tab - then activate the 'entire surface' checkbox below 'lock to application'. That will lock all the surfaces to the DAW you are currently working in.

I haven't tried it with just the Control app, but it certainly is working with my Mix + Transport + Control app. Hui isn't entirely ideal - Eucon is definitely better, but it does work.

[MediaBrain]

Your review is spot on. Infancy is a good description. I can't believe there is no way to access send levels. If I'm working with the app as a remote, the ability to tweak a cue mix is just a basic requirement. Managing playhead locations in the timeline for punch or loop tasks is also not featured. Also Neyrinck has the ability to turn pre and post roll on and off easily whereas the Avid app doesn't even give the option. Logic Remote also eclipses this app in every way imaginable. It feels like this was rushed out the door just so Avid would have something to release and turn the tides of very negative user sentiment in light of the lack of progress on PT12 and the very unpopular HD support plan terms. Unfortunately shoving an incomplete product out the door only highlights Avid's deficiencies.

[LDS]

Originally Posted by MediaBrain

Your review is spot on. Infancy is a good description. I can't believe there is no way to access send levels. If I'm working with the app as a remote, the ability to tweak a cue mix is just a basic requirement. Managing playhead locations in the timeline for punch or loop tasks is also not featured. Also Neyrinck has the ability to turn pre and post roll on and off easily whereas the Avid app doesn't even give the option. Logic Remote also eclipses this app in every way imaginable. It feels like this was rushed out the door just so Avid would have something to release and turn the tides of very negative user sentiment in light of the lack of progress on PT12 and the very unpopular HD support plan terms. Unfortunately shoving an incomplete product out the door only highlights Avid's deficiencies.

The Control app can toggle pre and post roll. The soft keys can be programmed to control pretty much anything you like using the 'soft keys' panel in the Eucon software.

[nige108]

Originally Posted by alex s

I'm a big fan of V Control.
The obvious advantages over PT Control are access to sends, the V Window and on fader automation selection.

However, I've never found the panning particularly accurate and have always reverted to the mouse for this purpose.

Weirdly, I submitted a feature request for V Control on the day PT Control was released asking for an overlay to pop up when the pans are touched...
Much like PT control.

I also really like the universe bar at the top of the screen allowing you to jump all around the session.

It just makes me wonder how amazing V Control would be if Avid gave Neyrinck access to Eucon.

I was able to get round the laggy meters in PT Control by setting up a network directly between the computer and iPad.

EDIT:

Forget what I said about V Control's panning issues...
I just discovered when you option drag on the pan pots a numerical display is shown at the top of the fader allowing for really accurate adjustments.

Really nice.

So did you set up an ad hoc network here?

[alex s]

Originally Posted by nige108

So did you set up an ad hoc network here?

Yep,

I'm on a mac, so I hit "Create New Network" in the WiFi dropdown and connected the ipad to that network.

Al

[nige108]

Originally Posted by alex s

Yep,



I'm on a mac, so I hit "Create New Network" in the WiFi dropdown and connected the ipad to that network.



Al

Cool, I'll try the ad hoc on PC. Gotta be the best way I reckon.

[StefB]

Also - cannot use EUCON and ICON together - its a pity!
Wanted to use it as a control pad in my recording booth - but cannot activate EUCON and my D-Command at the same time.

[nige108]

Anyone tried the Actions app in PT?