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Put a pause, or comma, into a Pro Tools song
Hi,
some music I'm recording has a comma on the staff, meaning a pause, maybe up to 2 seconds. It would be good to insert that, and still have the bar numbering not change. How would you put a pause in? Just stop the music, let the echo trail. Could put in a new bar, and have the timing and beat signature set to make the short pause happen, but then the bar numbering changes. Could bounce the mix, cut it up and feed it to the reverb, but that seems painful and recurring. There is probably no free lunch, but if you know a way, could you please post it? Thanks! |
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Re: Put a pause, or comma, into a Pro Tools song
Use the tempo ruler with the conductor on and put in a big tempo change for just the last quartet note of the bar before the pause. Then put the tempo back for the first beat of the next bar.
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Re: Put a pause, or comma, into a Pro Tools song
Change the meter of the bar you need the pause in and add some rests.
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Re: Put a pause, or comma, into a Pro Tools song
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Just finished. It worked great, Thanks! Of course, I had to handle the sample-based audio differently, cutting and moving, using a little dot in the clip gain line to tell me where the beat is supposed to hit, and then when the new beat is found from the new bpm setting, I slide the audio over so that the dot aligns with the correct beat. Last edited by GregX; 04-23-2022 at 10:35 PM. |
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Re: Put a pause, or comma, into a Pro Tools song
This is a good idea too, thanks. I'm trying the bpm change first, and we'll see.
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Re: Put a pause, or comma, into a Pro Tools song
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The problem with doing it the variable tempo way is, if this is going to be recorded, that means you end up with variable/garbage click leaving a section and going into the new section (the pickup.) Players hate that and you have to build lead-in click tracks for the actual tempo of the section you resume into. changing the meter for a bar and adding rests, none of that is an issue. (also, it looks less like a mess for copyist/orchestrators who receive MIDI; different programs handle tempo changes differently when it comes to ramps)
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Put a pause, or comma, into a Pro Tools song
Please forgive my ignorance, but I don’t understand this reasoning. Any time I’ve had to lengthen a rest, I enable the all group, cut at the downbeat, and drag out as appropriate. Then disable the all group, customize the cuts trimming one way or the other or adding a fade if necessary. Last, make sure there’s something in the hole like a reverb tail, delay, or “air” to keep it from being an empty nothingness. Bob’s your uncle.
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Re: Put a pause, or comma, into a Pro Tools song
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A steady tempo rather than one manipulated to extend parts of a single bar is preferable since the click/counter also stays steady.
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Re: Put a pause, or comma, into a Pro Tools song
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Okay, I can see that.
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