double S1 vs S3 workflow

[cebolao]

anybody compared double S1 against single S3?

apart from the obvious stuff - like lack of second horizontal knob strip and function keys on S1's, and lack of dedicated tablet on S3

- do layouts from S3 open on double S1s (16 faders)?
- do all 16 parameters of EQ or COMP spill to double S1 (so you have parameters 1-8 on the first and 9-16 on the second S1)?

[its2loud]

IMHO, If you do not need the AVB of the S3 or the double encoders or the mic/line inputs and you’re looking from a cost perspective then two S1’s with a Dock can be a great setup. Not to mention you can expand the S1 configuration up to 32 faders and tablet meters if wanted.

Layouts will function the same on both surfaces.

[cebolao]

thank you @its2loud for your comment

just to double check: my layouts created on avid S3 (16 channels) will open on two avid S1's (8 + 8 channels), correct?

[its2loud]

I believe they should. If you’d like to send me your template with layouts I can double check for you but I see no reason why they shouldn’t.

Eucon will see the number of channels available based on your hardware in EuControl.

[cebolao]

thank you, PM sent!

[its2loud]

Here are some screen grabs of what the Layouts page in EuControl looks like with 2 S1. Showing 16 faders available. One with no assignments and the other with all 16 channels assigned for a layout.

[BScout]

Originally Posted by cebolao

- do layouts from S3 open on double S1s (16 faders)?

Yes

Originally Posted by cebolao

- do all 16 parameters of EQ or COMP spill to double S1 (so you have parameters 1-8 on the first and 9-16 on the second S1)?

Yes

I went from a S3 to double S1+Dock

[Rich Breen]

The inability to stack multiple S3s for more than 16 faders is what always held me back from them. As soon as the S1s became stable I jumped; currently at 3 S1s and a dock, but might go to a fourth. They do behave as one surface with full spilling of parameters.

[Chevron]

Originally Posted by BScout

Yes

Yes

I went from a S3 to double S1+Dock

How do you feel about switching from the S3 to double S1s? Anything you miss?

I am currently weighing up the 2 setups.

One thing I am guessing, is that the S3 has a lot more dedicated buttons and easier to call up various settings?

Plus that 2nd row of knobs will be hella useful?

[albee1952]

Just weighing in with an opinion; The price of an S3 gets you a pair of S1's and a Dock. Even with a single tablet for the dock, it looks to cover everything the S3 does, and maybe a bit more elegantly. I like that users can choose to put the dock anywhere they want(it always bugged me that C24 put transport on the right when I wanted it on the left). Also, the S1 works fine without a tablet, so that expense can be delayed or nixed. As for the double row of encoders, I do lots of live mixing and loved the original D-Show(2 rows of encoders) and then got stuck on Profiles with a single row and really didn't miss the extra row